Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12947910)
Emergency Measures and Civil Protection Act (EMCPA) - the fines are a lot higher for a business though - up to $5,000
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...7289cada6d.jpg https://www.hamilton.ca/coronavirus/...ut-enforcement Pretty hefty fines. The fines are lower in BC, and uniform across the province, BC except for a short period of time never did region specific rules, and we never had one of these color coded systems Ontario seems to have. $230 violation ticket: for not wearing a mask in public settings unless exempt. Are a passenger on a party bus or limousine Encourage other people to attend a gathering and/or Refuse to leave or disperse from the event or gathering when directed to do so by an enforcement officer. Do not vacate a licensed premise by 11:00 pm. (bars) and/or Engage in abusive behaviour towards a restaurant or bar employee. $2,300 fines for: people who operate a party bus or limousine anywhere in the province. to owners, operators and event organizers who host an event or gathering, unless the event or gathering unless the event has an exemption. A nightclub does not cease to operate as a nightclub Background music or other background sounds, such as from televisions is louder than the volume of normal conversation. Liquor is served outside the hours of 11:00 am to 10:00 pm Tickets can be issued by police, community safety unit, liquor and cannabis inspectors, gaming inspectors and conservation officers. Repeat offenders or cases of egregious contraventions of the health order, police can recommended criminal charges, if convicted the penalty is $2,000 fines and/or up to 6 months in jail. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/s...lation-tickets |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12947790)
Hamilton goes into Grey Lockdown from Midnight Sunday for 28 days - there goes Christmas for a lot of people = only those living alone can mix with one other household.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/135239...celled-london/ |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by printer
(Post 12948006)
Whole of south east of England and all of London lockdown as from midnight.........No Christmas meetings for anyone in tier 4. This after Boris promising Christmas would be saved, i'm sure there are a lot of rather piised off people right now.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/135239...celled-london/ |
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 12947924)
Pretty hefty fines.
"Victoria Police can issue on-the-spot fines of up to $1,652 for individuals and up to $9,913 for businesses for:
People who do not wear a face mask when required and do not have a lawful reason can be fined $200." And those are the *current* fines, dialed back by roughly 2/3rds from the "state of emergency" ones of 2 - 5 months ago. |
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Looks like this new strain of COVID is hammering parts of England right now. So much so that other countries have banned incoming flights from the UK.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...-says-12168124 |
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Sky were also covering the big exit from London, trains packed no social distancing. Just found out a relative passed on Friday, now not close and one of those in normal times I would have thought about going to the Funeral but now not an issue.
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Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12948136)
Sky were also covering the big exit from London, trains packed no social distancing. Just found out a relative passed on Friday, now not close and one of those in normal times I would have thought about going to the Funeral but now not an issue.
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There was an interview on Sky and I think one was from Bristol and the other Leeds going home for Christmas.
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Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Boiler
(Post 12948153)
There was an interview on Sky and I think one was from Bristol and the other Leeds going home for Christmas.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...af3a98073d.png |
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If anybody thinks they will be able to stop the new strain from entering well no chance.
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Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 12948135)
Looks like this new strain of COVID is hammering parts of England right now. So much so that other countries have banned incoming flights from the UK.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...-says-12168124 |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 12948156)
It's these international flights from the UK that I worry about, especially the ones landing in YVR.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...af3a98073d.png |
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Canada has never banned flights, they have only placed restrictions on people entering, but the exemptions make the swiss cheese holes pretty big.
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Getting vaccinated is extremely cool.
Oct. 28, 1956, backstage at “The Ed Sullivan Show,” the 21-year-old Elvis Presley—the smooth-faced, pouting, swivel-hipped hero of American youth—extended his left arm. In went the needle. Off went the flashbulbs. A polio star was born. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...85daaabe5.jpeg |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 12948165)
I wouldn't be surprised if the new strain is already here and in the US and contributing to the explosive spread California is seeing.
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Virus's mutate and adapt, it's nothing new.. there are over 200 variations/mutations of Covid 19**. This adaptation / mutation is to allow it to spread more easily, however, there is nothing showing that it is more virulent in it's effect on people (i.e. it's not having any worse effect than the usual variety - people aren't getting more seriously ill than the more common variety), nor that it's causing more deaths. It's been in the UK since September! More hype to feed the hysteria that is boris.
There are similar mutations elsewhere in the world already :) **Correction - as of July 2020 apparently there were a total of 1,234 mutations (and doubtless more since) https://www.nature.com/articles/s10038-020-0808-9 |
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Most of Ontario will be locked down for 28 days from Christmas Eve...Northern Ontario for 14 days. Senior schools closed until 21 Jan...elementary schools until 11 Jan. Ford is expected to give further details tomorrow.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7534030/o..._9LYSpWtqEZMEE |
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Maybe a new variant in South Africa as well, but the study hasn't been peer reviewed, appears severity is no worse, but it spreads faster and test swabs have higher viral load. Appears to be a different variant than UK one.
"Scientists are examining this particular variant closely because it includes several changes in the part of the virus that allows it to attach to human cells, which is a key target for antibody therapies and vaccines." https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/w...s-variant.html The new variant is named 501.V2. |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12948219)
Virus's mutate and adapt, it's nothing new.. there are over 200 variations/mutations of Covid 19. This adaptation / mutation is to allow it to spread more easily, however, there is nothing showing that it is more virulent in it's effect on people (i.e. it's not having any worse effect than the usual variety - people aren't getting more seriously ill than the more common variety), nor that it's causing more deaths. It's been in the UK since September! More hype to feed the hysteria that is boris.
There are similar mutations elsewhere in the world already :) It's good that the new variant doesn't seem to be more deadly, although of course with more people contracting the virus there will inevitably be more hospitalisations and deaths. |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 12948167)
There have been loads of infected people flying into Toronto these past few months. I don’t think they have banned flights from my country during the last 10 months.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...irus-1.5849598 |
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all flights from the UK suspended. Pretty awful for anyone emigrating right now. |
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Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 12948241)
As of midnight tonight Canada has banned flights from the UK.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...irus-1.5849598 |
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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 12948240)
The words Boris and hysteria go together very well, the man's all over the place.
It's good that the new variant doesn't seem to be more deadly, although of course with more people contracting the virus there will inevitably be more hospitalisations and deaths. There is quite a decent wiki article about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VUI_%E2%80%93_202012/01 |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 12948156)
It's these international flights from the UK that I worry about, especially the ones landing in YVR.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...af3a98073d.png Flights impacted by covid into YVR... though none from the UK :) Other airports > https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...atherings.html |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12948246)
COVID-19 Public Exposures
Flights impacted by covid into YVR... though none from the UK :) Other airports > https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...atherings.html The screenshot you quoted me on has an exposure into YVR from LHR. Flight AC855 on Dec 10th. Rows 35-42. |
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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl
(Post 12948243)
Wow...the US will follow.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/135340...vid-19-strain/ |
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Originally Posted by printer
(Post 12948248)
Ha ha not according to this story, Trump is UK's only friend it says. :o
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/135340...vid-19-strain/ |
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Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 12948245)
I don't quite understand how it is more transmissible. If people are wearing a mask AND social distancing, what is there to worry about?
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Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 12948247)
Huh?
The screenshot you quoted me on has an exposure into YVR from LHR. Flight AC855 on Dec 10th. Rows 35-42. I was looking at the link I gave you - not your post.. and yes, there is one (10th December) hidden amongst the others. More worrying are all the flights across Canada! (pdf opens in new tab, no download) http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site...es-Current.pdf |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by printer
(Post 12948248)
Ha ha not according to this story, Trump is UK's only friend it says. :o
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/135340...vid-19-strain/ |
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Seems at least at YVR people are indeed not travelling much by air this holiday season, YVR showing traffic down 85% to 90%.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...cent-1.5849655 |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
(Post 12948269)
Seems at least at YVR people are indeed not travelling much by air this holiday season, YVR showing traffic down 85% to 90%.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...cent-1.5849655 |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by printer
(Post 12948277)
That's massive for Christmas week.
The Pier D International Terminal Expansion was nearly done, so they did continue that one to complete it. YVR went from massive growth and not having enough gates at peak times especially in international and US departure gates, to a ghost town. Crazy fast decline. Most recent monthly stats I could find is for September which were released in November, September 2020 saw a 84.6% decline in passengers vs 2019.
6.4 million passengers through YVR Jan 1 to Sept 30, 2020 down from 20.3 million same period in 2019. 24 flights between Dec 6 and 16 with possible COVID exposure. https://bc.ctvnews.ca/24-flights-add...ures-1.5238679 |
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Boris Johnson is quite correctly getting absolute pelters in the sensible parts of the UK media for his jingo-bluster-flip-flop style of "leadership". Kier Starmer hit the nail on the head when he said that Johnson cares more about being popular than he cares about making difficult decisions.
What I can't get my head around is that if London is put into Tier 4, why did they (i) not do it immediately instead of saying "from midnight tomorrow", and (ii) allow trains and planes out of London to keep running? It's a recipe for disaster, just because they don't want to make tough decisions. |
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Parkside Extendicare in Regina turned into a hell-hole and there was nothing the familes of the residents could do. After seeing what happened early on in Quebec and Ontario maybe the management had time to bolster their staffing or improve conditions, and maybe not. There will probably be an inquiry at some point.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...d-19-1.5840770 My best friend's mother died in there an hour and a half ago and of course he couldn't be there. I'd known her for almost 50 years and she was the sweetest, kindest woman you're ever likely to meet. She just tested positive less than 2 weeks ago. The father of a co-worker was in there until about 3 months ago, when she was able to get him a space in a nursing home out of town. I think she saved his life. |
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I forget where I read this and it was sometime ago but they were saying that the incidents in Care Homes were going to keep the Lawyers very busy in futures years.
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Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by caretaker
(Post 12948352)
Parkside Extendicare in Regina turned into a hell-hole and there was nothing the familes of the residents could do. After seeing what happened early on in Quebec and Ontario maybe the management had time to bolster their staffing or improve conditions, and maybe not. There will probably be an inquiry at some point.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...d-19-1.5840770 My best friend's mother died in there an hour and a half ago and of course he couldn't be there. I'd known her for almost 50 years and she was the sweetest, kindest woman you're ever likely to meet. She just tested positive less than 2 weeks ago. The father of a co-worker was in there until about 3 months ago, when she was able to get him a space in a nursing home out of town. I think she saved his life. One of the care homes in Hamilton has been hit so hard that they have made the decision to 'hand it over' to Hamilton Health Sciences and draft in nurses and doctors.. it's a disaster. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamil...-hhs-1.5843815 |
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The whole of Ontario is going into Lockdown for a minimum of 28 days starting at 12:01am on Boxing Day - north of Sydbury, a little earlier.
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives The lockdown will begin at 12:01 a.m. on Dec. 26 and remain in place until at least Jan. 23, 2021 in the 27 public health units that comprise southern Ontario, the government says. In Ontario's north, where daily case numbers have been significantly lower, the lockdown is set to expire on Jan. 9, 2021. |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12948480)
The whole of Ontario is going into Lockdown for a minimum of 28 days starting at 12:01am on Boxing Day - north of Sydbury, a little earlier.
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives |
Re: Coronavirus
Originally Posted by Siouxie
(Post 12948480)
The whole of Ontario is going into Lockdown for a minimum of 28 days starting at 12:01am on Boxing Day - north of Sydbury, a little earlier.
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives Here it is. Ontario to implement provincewide lockdown on Christmas Eve, sources say The Ontario government is poised to impose a provincewide lockdown starting Christmas Eve, sources confirmed Sunday, as the province logged more than 2,000 new cases of COVID-19 for the sixth consecutive day. |
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