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BristolUK Dec 30th 2020 2:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12951429)

I'm not entirely convinced that is genuine. I've had a look over the ONS website and I can't find it. I even typed out that so called link in full and it doesn't work. I note, too, that the url is dated 2015 so it's a bit odd to see data from 5 years later.
Worldometer shows 71,567 deaths in the UK from covid.

Are you sure you haven't obtained this from some sort of fake news website?

scrubbedexpat099 Dec 30th 2020 2:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020...ad-and-barley/

This sort of situation may well explain the issues they are having in LA.

Revin Kevin Dec 30th 2020 3:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12951443)
I'm not entirely convinced that is genuine. I've had a look over the ONS website and I can't find it. I even typed out that so called link in full and it doesn't work. I note, too, that the url is dated 2015 so it's a bit odd to see data from 5 years later.
Worldometer shows 71,567 deaths in the UK from covid.

Are you sure you haven't obtained this from some sort of fake news website?

I've had a quick look and the previous years figures are defiantly genuine the source is here :Deaths registered in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)

I will try and look for the 2020 figures have come from later.


scrubbedexpat099 Dec 30th 2020 3:08 pm

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Makes sense if you look at the demographics of those who have died

Expatrick Dec 30th 2020 3:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
So we appear to have 70,000 + premature deaths due to Covid (as opposed to other causes), premature as in a year or 3 for the very elderly down to several years for the middle aged and decades for the younger.


BristolUK Dec 30th 2020 3:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12951449)
I've had a quick look and the previous years figures are defiantly genuine the source is here :Deaths registered in England and Wales - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)

I will try and look for the 2020 figures have come from later.

So the table is making it appear there were no additional deaths in covid year - the sort of claim that comes from deniers trying to convince people it's all a hoax and designed to control us.

On the same website one can find these snippets
In Week 51
  • The number of deaths registered was 12.7% above the five-year average
  • Of the deaths registered 2,986 mentioned "novel coronavirus (COVID-19)", accounting for 22.9% of all deaths in England and Wales
  • Of the 2,986 deaths involving COVID-19, 2,557 had this recorded as the underlying cause of death (85.6%).
These facts don't really lend themselves to the possibility that 2020 deaths (all causes) were perfectly in line with the usual numbers.

Worldometer lists over 70k covid deaths in the UK. The ONS England and Wales figure mentions 22.9% of all deaths being covid related.

If, with all these deaths attributed to covid from two different sources, if the overall death figure was pretty much unchanged something must have been saving the lives of people who would otherwise have died. I wonder what it was? Remarkable given that people haven't been able to get the hospital treatment they'd normally get thanks to hospitals dealing with covid.

I mean there have been figures produced in a few countries about falls in various diagnoses and necessary treatments and it's not been because cancer, for example has been disappearing.

So we have covid deaths and increased deaths from other issues and someone is trying to convince us that overall deaths are 'normal'? I don't buy it.

scrubbedexpat099 Dec 30th 2020 3:40 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
There is simply not the data to make any sensible conclusion. The source material can be misleading. I use the example of my Mother who clearly died of her numerous bouts with Cancer, Cancer was not mentioned on her Death Cerificate.

So you have people who are shall we say at risk, and if just for example Covid came in with a good year for Flu deaths, that population being susceptible to both there would be a degree of cancellation. The actually variables would need good data and a super computer to work through.

Yes there have been deaths due to lack of other Medical services, but probably less road deaths due to reduced traffic, just for example.

Expatrick Dec 30th 2020 3:43 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12951472)
There is simply not the data to make any sensible conclusion. The source material can be misleading. I use the example of my Mother who clearly died of her numerous bouts with Cancer, Cancer was not mentioned on her Death Cerificate.

So you have people who are shall we say at risk, and if just for example Covid came in with a good year for Flu deaths, that population being susceptible to both there would be a degree of cancellation. The actually variables would need good data and a super computer to work through.

Yes there have been deaths due to lack of other Medical services, but probably less road deaths due to reduced traffic, just for example.

Exactly!

Jerseygirl Dec 30th 2020 3:57 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12951472)
There is simply not the data to make any sensible conclusion. The source material can be misleading. I use the example of my Mother who clearly died of her numerous bouts with Cancer, Cancer was not mentioned on her Death Cerificate.

So you have people who are shall we say at risk, and if just for example Covid came in with a good year for Flu deaths, that population being susceptible to both there would be a degree of cancellation. The actually variables would need good data and a super computer to work through.

Yes there have been deaths due to lack of other Medical services, but probably less road deaths due to reduced traffic, just for example.


My father died of pancreatic cancer...first cause of death on his death certificate is diabetes mellitus (which he had from being a young child).

caretaker Dec 30th 2020 4:15 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
The Saskatchewan Coroners Service has obtained additional morgue storage.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...city-1.5857414

spouse of scouse Dec 30th 2020 4:27 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12951498)
The Saskatchewan Coroners Service has obtained additional morgue storage.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...city-1.5857414

Not something you want to be happening in the place you live :(

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 30th 2020 7:10 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Man in Vancouver didn't learn with warnings, then fines, and kept hosting parties in his condo, so on Christmas Day police surprised him with an arrest warrant! Hope the parties were worth it, now he is on bail and has bail conditions to meet or back in jail he goes.

Police have received at least 12 complaints about this guy, and was fined 2 times in addition to warnings so not like he didn't have a chance, if anything he had too many chances.

Zoe Bell Dec 30th 2020 7:44 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Brother in uk has just tested positive

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 30th 2020 8:08 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 12951579)
Brother in uk has just tested positive


Fingers crossed he has a mild case.

I went trough the worry with my sister and her family 2 months ago, thankfully they are pulled through it.

Zoe Bell Dec 30th 2020 8:22 pm

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He's actually asymptomatic. But like many in the Uk has been playing fast and loose with lockdown rulesTrouble is . He's not the one paying the price. We'd finally managed to get my elderly mother a hospital appointment with a view to get her the surgery she needs to be pain freeThat's going to have to be cancelled now

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 30th 2020 11:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Looks like the BC Gov't doesn't want a repeat of Halloween tomorrow night, all liquor sales end at 8pm tomorrow night including bars and restaurants.

I feel bad for restaurants though having this sprung on them the day before NYE.

scrubbedexpat099 Dec 31st 2020 12:14 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12951651)
Looks like the BC Gov't doesn't want a repeat of Halloween tomorrow night, all liquor sales end at 8pm tomorrow night including bars and restaurants.

I feel bad for restaurants though having this sprung on them the day before NYE.

Around me they are at 25% and you would have to be bonkers to be outside, however most of the main areas they are closed. Off sales would be normal but not sure that is relevant.

Jerseygirl Dec 31st 2020 2:30 pm

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Record high...yesterday’s cases were over 3,000 for the first time. :eek:


3,328 new cases...and 56 deaths.

bats Jan 1st 2021 12:02 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12951429)

Just shows what a good job NHS staff are doing keeping their patients alive.
NHS hospital are full, ICU capacity is bursting with patients being transferred to other hospitals. Seriously glad I didv work there anymore

Jerseygirl Jan 2nd 2021 4:07 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Ontario...Another daily high of 3,363 for yesterday and 95 deaths over the last 2 days.

Shard Jan 2nd 2021 5:01 pm

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Some very worried and pissed off callers on LBC today, all mystified why <<<SNIP>>> it is reluctant to shut schools. As one woman said, open schools mean more infections, more infections mean more deaths. It really is that simple - especially with this more contagious strain.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 2nd 2021 6:46 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Here is it the shop workers, Supermarkets etc who seem to be the ones most at risk.

BristolUK Jan 3rd 2021 12:15 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
"Bad" day for NB. Ten new cases, the highest in a long time and possibly the second highest since day one.

All in Fredericton area, all ages to 80 represented, and thought to be connected.

Sounds like a Christmas get together, maybe.

Shard Jan 3rd 2021 2:25 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Former UK PM on the TV this morning suggesting that with a revised strategy, the UK should be able to vaccinate the entire population by Easter. Would be nice.

caretaker Jan 3rd 2021 2:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Saskatchewan stats are about the same as over the past week, I'm imagining a graph with sort of a high plateau.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...41ab268af.jpeg

caretaker Jan 3rd 2021 6:28 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I just went through the drive-through covid testing site down at the exhibition grounds so now I'm supposed to stay home and watch tv for a couple of days or so until my results show up on the website. Not like I needed an excuse before....

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 3rd 2021 6:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12953189)
I just went through the drive-through covid testing site down at the exhibition grounds so now I'm supposed to stay home and watch tv for a couple of days or so until my results show up on the website. Not like I needed an excuse before....

Did you have a specific reason to test?

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 3rd 2021 7:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12953189)
I just went through the drive-through covid testing site down at the exhibition grounds so now I'm supposed to stay home and watch tv for a couple of days or so until my results show up on the website. Not like I needed an excuse before....


Drive thru fancy.... Hopefully your feeling okay and comes back negative.


Danny B Jan 4th 2021 7:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Get your bog paper people, England has gone back into lockdown until mid Feb.

That light at the end of the tunnel has just got a bit darker...


Revin Kevin Jan 4th 2021 7:38 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12953742)
Get your bog paper people, England has gone back into lockdown until mid Feb.

That light at the end of the tunnel has just got a bit darker...

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...6e0c1792b6.jpg
Earlier today! 🤣

caretaker Jan 4th 2021 8:00 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Today's numbers, pushing the average up a bit:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...8eaa9b9f8.jpeg

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 5th 2021 3:15 am

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-travel-advice

A lot of bad boys in Alberta

caretaker Jan 5th 2021 5:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I got my negative test result back in less than 48 hrs, but I think I'll stay home in my pajamas and eat and drink for an extra day just to be on the safe side.

Jerseygirl Jan 5th 2021 5:57 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12954264)
I got my negative test result back in less than 48 hrs, but I think I'll stay home in my pajamas and eat and drink for an extra day just to be on the safe side.

My daughter and granddaughter had a swab test about 3 weeks ago. She got the results that evening, took 11 hrs.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 5th 2021 5:58 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12954264)
I got my negative test result back in less than 48 hrs, but I think I'll stay home in my pajamas and eat and drink for an extra day just to be on the safe side.

Very wise

We all thank you for your consideration, never can be too safe.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 5th 2021 6:07 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12954264)
I got my negative test result back in less than 48 hrs, but I think I'll stay home in my pajamas and eat and drink for an extra day just to be on the safe side.

That was quick!

Glad to hear its negative, phew.

Siouxie Jan 5th 2021 6:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12954264)
I got my negative test result back in less than 48 hrs, but I think I'll stay home in my pajamas and eat and drink for an extra day just to be on the safe side.

:thumbsup: Glad to hear it was negative! It sounds like you need time to recover from that nasty swabbing.. an extra day might do it :D
You are fortunate that the turnaround was so fast -

It may take up to 7 days to receive test results for COVID-19 Hamilton
- I expect it depends on where and by who you get the test done :)

Danny B Jan 5th 2021 7:29 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
God damn this is getting way worse than last March.

One in 50 people in private households in England had Covid last week - and one in 30 in London.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55550906

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 5th 2021 7:58 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Some scientists seem concerned about that strain and the vaccine's effectiveness against it. Studies are currently being conducted, the vaccine makers say if tweaks need to be made to their vaccines it will take about 6 weeks.

https://www.livescience.com/south-af...-vaccines.html












BristolUK Jan 5th 2021 8:03 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12954264)
I got my negative test result back in less than 48 hrs, but I think I'll stay home in my pajamas and eat and drink for an extra day just to be on the safe side.

Have JG's granddaughter make a house call and check up on you. :lol:


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