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scrubbedexpat091 Jan 8th 2021 11:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12956068)
It's probably all about logical progressions; they can't order vaccines until they're approved, then they can only order as many as are available, and then they can only have them delivered when they're ready to ship. It looks like the plan is to ramp up delivery and thus facilitate rate of vaccination over the next couple of months. In Saskatchewan I think the plan is giving it to front line health care workers and seniors first, but they also sent a bunch to Prince Albert for distribution in northern communities. They have been particularly hard hit, with cases where half a small town or reserve can be infected at once. Predictions in November were that the rate of vaccination would speed up rapidly after the initial roll out, and that is still possible. 180,000 doses were allocated for Saskatchewan, and there are over a million people in the province, so there should be some fast action over the summer.


Once others are approved things should improve. Moderns and Pfizer combined are committed to delivering 400 million doses to the US by July, and that has got to slow deliveries to others places like Canada I would imagine.

Astra Zeneca will hopefully be approved rather soon, and J&J should if things go to plan be ready by end of February, they plan to apply for emergency approval in February in the US, and hopefully Canada wont be far behind.

I don't know if Canada ordered any Sanofi/GSK vaccines but that one has been delayed until this fall, so that wont wont be coming anytime soon if ever.

I found this chart from December pre-orders single doses per capita by various countries.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...80ff604820.png

Canada 8.9 doses per head, the equivalent of enough vaccines to vaccinate each citizen five times over
US is 7.3 doses per head – enough to vaccine every American nearly four times
UK is UK’s deals will result in 5.7 doses per head, which is enough to vaccinate everyone in the country almost three times.

Some of these vaccines may be delayed like GSK one or not approved, so wait and see what countries actually receive vs what was pre-ordered.

caretaker Jan 8th 2021 11:16 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I remember lining up for my polio and measles shots in the late 50's and early 60's. For one of them, the district health nurse set up in the second floor above the general store, and she had a machine like a sewing machine, and it came down and stabbed your arm and each kid just followed the one in front. It was terrifying but I didn't do my usual whine and cry because I wanted to act tough in front of my friends. Carried it off! :lol:

Shard Jan 9th 2021 12:24 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 12955638)
I don't know what it's like in Canada but here in the UK there are plenty of TV adverts for summer holidays and plenty of celebs posting photos from Dubai and plenty of idiots still keen to go on holiday... it's absolutely mental. What is wrong with people that, in the midst of all this utter chaos, all they can think about is jetting off on holiday?

Bizarre isn't it. I heard that Jeremy Hunt has booked his summer hols in anticipation of better times.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 9th 2021 5:30 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Ruh oh

South African strain found in Alberta in a person who recently travelled.

Upside Pfizer vaccine might work against the UK and South Africa strains.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 9th 2021 10:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Police officers spotted sitting in packed London cafe in apparent lockdown breach

https://sports.yahoo.com/police-flout-lockdown-london-cafe-154621307.html

Wonder if they will get a fixed penalty notice.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 10th 2021 11:12 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Ontario considering bringing in a curfew according to sources.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7566688/o...w-coronavirus/



caretaker Jan 11th 2021 10:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Our numbers are up after the weekend, and the positivity rate shows what is probably a post-holiday surge.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...fdc16eb8b.jpeg

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 11th 2021 11:02 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
BC over the weekend had 22 deaths and 538 new cases between Friday and Saturday, 507 between Saturday and Sunday, and 430 between Sunday and Monday.

Currently 5,220 active cases of the virus in the province, with
358 people in hospital, 72 of whom are in critical care. Active cases are down from 1 month ago, December 11 we had 9,589 active cases and started a downward trend just before Christmas.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...-000-1.5865413

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 11th 2021 11:06 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Looks like BC did 13,000 vaccinations today, and have administered 80% of the supply.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...19da9c191b.png

Danny B Jan 12th 2021 2:18 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12951429)

That's not what it says here

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693



Siouxie Jan 12th 2021 4:35 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12957627)
That's not what it says here

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693

I think because the link / image quoted showed England / England and Wales figures --
Official rates: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...s/november2020

6. Deaths registered in the year-to-date

There were 517,148 deaths registered in England and 33,469 in Wales during the first 11 months (January to November) of 2020.
Add on the figures for Ireland and Scotland to reach the total.
From 'monthly deaths excel - including December - https://www.nisra.gov.uk/publications/monthly-deaths N.Ireland: 17,613
From 'monthly deaths excel - Scotland (not including December) https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statis...ed-in-scotland - 58,084

Total Deaths - UK - 626,314 (plus December's figures for Wales, Scotland and England)
You would have to do the same for each year to compare if there was a huge increase or not :)

Revin Kevin Jan 12th 2021 5:16 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12957627)
That's not what it says here

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55631693

If I read it right it says the death rate was higher in 2008 and I don't remember much fuss being made of it at the time!

Danny B Jan 12th 2021 6:10 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12957750)
If I read it right it says the death rate was higher in 2008 and I don't remember much fuss being made of it at the time!

I don't understand the data either.
AFAIK the swine flu wasn't a huge killer in the UK, but the 2008/2009 financial crisis may have contributed to more suicides. Who knows.

Siouxie Jan 12th 2021 6:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Breaking News
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives
Ontario on 'Stay at home order' from 14th. (plus other restrictions - see link)

Effective Thursday, January 14, 2021at 12:01 a.m., the government is issuing a stay-at-home order requiring everyone to remain at home with exceptions for essential purposes, such as going to the grocery store or pharmacy, accessing health care services, for exercise or for essential work. This order and other new and existing public health restrictions are aimed at limiting people's mobility and reducing the number of daily contacts with those outside an immediate household. In addition to limiting outings to essential trips, all businesses must ensure that any employee who can work from home, does work from home.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 12th 2021 6:37 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Hard to say what it will be in Canada, but COVID will likely be the 3rd leading cause of death in the US for 2020, only heart disease and cancer being worse.

Teaandtoday5 Jan 12th 2021 6:51 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I am never really sure what a ‘big box store’ is. Costco?

sharkus Jan 12th 2021 6:56 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12957803)
I am never really sure what a ‘big box store’ is. Costco?

Costco would count. I think it's stores that would sell multiple things, for example food, appliances, clothes and other things. So Walmart would possibly fall into that category too.

Danny B Jan 12th 2021 6:59 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12957793)
Breaking News
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives
Ontario on 'Stay at home order' from 14th. (plus other restrictions - see link)

That sucks.

Jerseygirl Jan 12th 2021 7:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12957812)
That sucks.


It is pretty much what people in the Toronto area should have been doing for months.

Danny B Jan 12th 2021 7:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12957796)
Hard to say what it will be in Canada, but COVID will likely be the 3rd leading cause of death in the US for 2020, only heart disease and cancer being worse.

Yep, you do not want to catch COVID if you have type 2 diabetes that's for damn sure.

Siouxie Jan 12th 2021 7:46 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Having to post it as a quote or the link doesn't show :)

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12957843)
For those who can access it (it's on Facebook) - this is a concerning post from someone in their 40's who was hospitalised due to Covid.. his story. A long read.. but worth it. He has given consent to share. I know the Conquest hospital - I have no reason to doubt his post. I have it saved as a pdf if anyone would like it.

FB might ask you to log in to view it -just click 'not now' and you will still be able to read it. :)

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 12th 2021 8:16 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12957819)
Yep, you do not want to catch COVID if you have type 2 diabetes that's for damn sure.

Yes type 2 seems to not be a good mix. My wife has type 2 (medication induced) and we worry about it because of that she would have a higher risk than someone her age without it.

printer Jan 12th 2021 9:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12957793)
Breaking News
https://news.ontario.ca/en/release/5...and-save-lives
Ontario on 'Stay at home order' from 14th. (plus other restrictions - see link)

So what has changed here? From the article:
  • All non-essential retail stores, including hardware stores, alcohol retailers, and those offering curbside pickup or delivery, must open no earlier than 7 a.m. and close no later than 8 p.m. The restricted hours of operation do not apply to stores that primarily sell food, pharmacies, gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants for takeout or delivery.
So are non essential stores still open? And if they are 7 am to 8 pm is quite a long timeframe.

Rete Jan 12th 2021 10:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12956910)
Ontario considering bringing in a curfew according to sources.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7566688/o...w-coronavirus/


Hubby was telling me that Quebec is doing the same. It will be from 8 pm to 8am daily.

Jerseygirl Jan 12th 2021 10:26 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12957901)
So what has changed here? From the article:
  • All non-essential retail stores, including hardware stores, alcohol retailers, and those offering curbside pickup or delivery, must open no earlier than 7 a.m. and close no later than 8 p.m. The restricted hours of operation do not apply to stores that primarily sell food, pharmacies, gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants for takeout or delivery.
So are non essential stores still open? And if they are 7 am to 8 pm is quite a long timeframe.

Nothing has really changed here in Toronto. :confused:

Doug Ford seemed to have ruled out curfews. From what he said today I think it would be the absolute last resort.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 12th 2021 10:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Rete (Post 12957924)
Hubby was telling me that Quebec is doing the same. It will be from 8 pm to 8am daily.

I am not sure I understand this, is it more contagious at night?

Siouxie Jan 12th 2021 11:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12957901)
So what has changed here? From the article:
  • All non-essential retail stores, including hardware stores, alcohol retailers, and those offering curbside pickup or delivery, must open no earlier than 7 a.m. and close no later than 8 p.m. The restricted hours of operation do not apply to stores that primarily sell food, pharmacies, gas stations, convenience stores, and restaurants for takeout or delivery.
So are non essential stores still open? And if they are 7 am to 8 pm is quite a long timeframe.

It's changed because these restrictions were not in operation for the last few months.. plus as I mentioned, there are OTHER restrictions as well.

BristolUK Jan 13th 2021 12:30 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12957930)
I am not sure I understand this, is it more contagious at night?

Yes. It's not so easy to see and dodge the aerosols when it's dark out.

Although if you wear night vision glasses you can see them, plus they can't get in your eyes.

Siouxie Jan 13th 2021 12:31 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12957930)
I am not sure I understand this, is it more contagious at night?

It's to discourage the eejits that like to meet up with friends and party during the evenings / nights. It's not rocket science :D

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 13th 2021 12:41 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...76066dfdb7.png

Siouxie Jan 13th 2021 7:08 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
FAQ for Ontario re 'stay at home' order - issued to reporters and news agencies (I found it on several reporters twitter accounts, I can't find it anywhere else) - there's 4 images in total with all the FAQ's - click on the tweet on Twitter to open the first page fully - then pan right using the arrow :)


scrubbedexpat091 Jan 13th 2021 7:54 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Some getting tickets in Montreal because they got off work late and were out after curfew even though they had their employment authorization letters with them and apparently police are using the curfew stop to search persons and their property.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/montreal-evening-shift-workers-slapped-with-curfew-fines-despite-authorization-letters-1.5263664

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/monreal-police-quebec-curfew-1.5870961

caretaker Jan 13th 2021 9:08 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12958379)
Some getting tickets in Montreal because they got off work late and were out after curfew even though they had their employment authorization letters with them and apparently police are using the curfew stop to search persons and their property.

In 1970 when the FLQ crisis prompted Pierre Trudeau to bring in the War Measures Act, the Montreal police used the convenience of no-warrant arrest powers to haul in every mafioso they could find. It was like Christmas for them.

OrangeMango Jan 13th 2021 10:01 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12958379)
Some getting tickets in Montreal because they got off work late and were out after curfew even though they had their employment authorization letters with them and apparently police are using the curfew stop to search persons and their property.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/montreal-evening-shift-workers-slapped-with-curfew-fines-despite-authorization-letters-1.5263664

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/monreal-police-quebec-curfew-1.5870961

It's precisely this idiocy with bothers me with Covid 19 laws.

Masks, no gatherings, not meeting others, working from home, that's all understandable. However the virus doesn't stop or begin just because it's evening.

And what happens if your car breaks down, or if you get stuck in a traffic jam? Risking an accident or demerit points just to make it home before the curfew.

They might just operate as in "Stalag 13". Anybody who is out and about after lights out will be shot.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 13th 2021 10:35 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12958364)
FAQ for Ontario re 'stay at home' order - issued to reporters and news agencies (I found it on several reporters twitter accounts, I can't find it anywhere else) - there's 4 images in total with all the FAQ's - click on the tweet on Twitter to open the first page fully - then pan right using the arrow :)

https://twitter.com/meyer_lucas/stat...554243/photo/1

Hmm not everybody is on Twitter.
I know one person who isn't.

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 13th 2021 10:49 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by OrangeMango (Post 12958444)
It's precisely this idiocy with bothers me with Covid 19 laws.

Masks, no gatherings, not meeting others, working from home, that's all understandable. However the virus doesn't stop or begin just because it's evening.

And what happens if your car breaks down, or if you get stuck in a traffic jam? Risking an accident or demerit points just to make it home before the curfew.

They might just operate as in "Stalag 13". Anybody who is out and about after lights out will be shot.

It does not take too much imagination to see how such powers could be abused on a significant level.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 13th 2021 11:03 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Some doctors who don't think rules apply to them jumping the que in Vancouver.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ueue-1.5872213

Shard Jan 13th 2021 11:17 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12957803)
I am never really sure what a ‘big box store’ is. Costco?

Those big stores in retail parks (as opposed to indoor shopping malls).

scrubbedexpat099 Jan 13th 2021 11:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Home Depot
Lowes
Target
Wal Mart

BristolUK Jan 14th 2021 12:19 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12957803)
I am never really sure what a ‘big box store’ is. Costco?


Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 12957807)
Costco would count. I think it's stores that would sell multiple things, for example food, appliances, clothes and other things. So Walmart would possibly fall into that category too.


Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12958486)
Those big stores in retail parks (as opposed to indoor shopping malls).

Is it not just a store - usually big ones - that sells stuff in big boxes?
Appliances, lawn mowers, flatpack furniture, computers, DIY stuff and larger DIY tools etc


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