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I see that the UK is now winding down boosters in their attempt at leaving this pandemic behind and i quote:Booster jabs will no longer be available to healthy under-50s from February 12.
Offers of first and second doses will also be withdrawn later this year. They go on to say there will still be boosters available for those "at risk" particularly in the fall as flu season approaches and some vulnerable people may get one in the Spring. |
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Those who are unjabbed are being urged to take up the offer ‘as soon as possible.’ |
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COVID is finally beginning to be a bad memory around this way.
My local Costco just took down their plexi glass dividers at the tills. I can still remember having to wait upwards of 30 minutes just to get inside the store back in March 2020. That's when people were panic buying bog roll :lol: |
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So after New Brunswick announcing covid deaths were higher in year three than years one and two added together :ohmy: and that positive test rates were recently the highest for a year, the province has decided to address this issue by vastly reducing the testing.
Of course what this will likely mean is that you only get tested if you really, really, probably have covid and positive rates will go up. |
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The National Citizens Inquiry is doing a good job so far.
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OK, after three years of a global pandemic, seeing patients needlessly die and others debilitated for who know how long, whilst fighting lunacy and outrageous misinformation on line, I took the bait. I am sure that I am wasting my breath given that even with presenting the most rocksolid proven evidence, Covid deniers continue to argue that black is white but its worth a punt.
I am absolutely for audit and review of actions carried out by any medical or Government organization, but it has to be carried out by unbiased and balanced expert individuals and having even scratched below the surface of the so called National Citizens Inquiry none of this lot fulfill any of those criteria. They claim that they are honest and follow only evidence-based lines yet then present as expert witnesses the likes of Robert Malone, darling of the antivaxxers and Covid deniers (alongside Peter McCullough) a veritable megaphone of misinformation, Mark Trozzi, quite rightly suspended by the CSPO because of the totally unproven misinformation that he spouted, Laura Braden, a rampant antivaxxer (including opposing childhood vaccines). They are to name but a few. This garbage is going nowhere, dont kid yourself. Thankfully, the vast majority of the general public follow evidence and science which has managed to get us through this pandemic relatively unscathed although the relatives of far north of 6 million now deceased would probably dispute that alongside those who are potentially suffering lifelong disabilities as a consequence of it. |
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Originally Posted by Stinkypup
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...the so called National Citizens Inquiry none of this lot fulfill any of those criteria. They claim that they are honest and follow only evidence-based lines yet then present as expert witnesses the likes of Robert Malone, darling of the antivaxxers and Covid deniers (alongside Peter McCullough) a veritable megaphone of misinformation, Mark Trozzi, quite rightly suspended by the CSPO because of the totally unproven misinformation that he spouted, Laura Braden, a rampant antivaxxer (including opposing childhood vaccines). They are to name but a few. This garbage is going nowhere, dont kid yourself. Thankfully, the vast majority of the general public follow evidence and science which has managed to get us through this pandemic relatively unscathed although the relatives of far north of 6 million now deceased would probably dispute that alongside those who are potentially suffering lifelong disabilities as a consequence of it.
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Originally Posted by Stinkypup
(Post 13183023)
OK, after three years of a global pandemic, seeing patients needlessly die and others debilitated for who know how long, whilst fighting lunacy and outrageous misinformation on line, I took the bait. I am sure that I am wasting my breath given that even with presenting the most rocksolid proven evidence, Covid deniers continue to argue that black is white but its worth a punt.
I am absolutely for audit and review of actions carried out by any medical or Government organization, but it has to be carried out by unbiased and balanced expert individuals and having even scratched below the surface of the so called National Citizens Inquiry none of this lot fulfill any of those criteria. They claim that they are honest and follow only evidence-based lines yet then present as expert witnesses the likes of Robert Malone, darling of the antivaxxers and Covid deniers (alongside Peter McCullough) a veritable megaphone of misinformation, Mark Trozzi, quite rightly suspended by the CSPO because of the totally unproven misinformation that he spouted, Laura Braden, a rampant antivaxxer (including opposing childhood vaccines). They are to name but a few. This garbage is going nowhere, dont kid yourself. Thankfully, the vast majority of the general public follow evidence and science which has managed to get us through this pandemic relatively unscathed although the relatives of far north of 6 million now deceased would probably dispute that alongside those who are potentially suffering lifelong disabilities as a consequence of it. |
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Originally Posted by Stinkypup
(Post 13183023)
OK, after three years of a global pandemic, seeing patients needlessly die and others debilitated for who know how long, whilst fighting lunacy and outrageous misinformation on line, I took the bait. I am sure that I am wasting my breath given that even with presenting the most rocksolid proven evidence, Covid deniers continue to argue that black is white but its worth a punt.
I am absolutely for audit and review of actions carried out by any medical or Government organization, but it has to be carried out by unbiased and balanced expert individuals and having even scratched below the surface of the so called National Citizens Inquiry none of this lot fulfill any of those criteria. They claim that they are honest and follow only evidence-based lines yet then present as expert witnesses the likes of Robert Malone, darling of the antivaxxers and Covid deniers (alongside Peter McCullough) a veritable megaphone of misinformation, Mark Trozzi, quite rightly suspended by the CSPO because of the totally unproven misinformation that he spouted, Laura Braden, a rampant antivaxxer (including opposing childhood vaccines). They are to name but a few. This garbage is going nowhere, dont kid yourself. Thankfully, the vast majority of the general public follow evidence and science which has managed to get us through this pandemic relatively unscathed although the relatives of far north of 6 million now deceased would probably dispute that alongside those who are potentially suffering lifelong disabilities as a consequence of it. |
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Time will tell what exactly? That a kangaroo court of science deniers, conspiracy theorists and antivaxxers will come to the conclusion that it was just a cold? That vaccines have caused more deaths than the "cold"? That Malone et al were totally right, that the vaccines (somehow) modify people DNA so they die in two years (not seen that yet). etc etc
The "Commission" apparently displays credibility, independence, competence, evidence based practice- are they having a laugh? This deluded idea came from the unhinged brain of Preston Manning which tells sane people who actually do their research a lot. I knew it would be a waste of time, it always is but I will always counter BS when I see it. |
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Originally Posted by Stinkypup
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...that the vaccines(somehow) modifies people DNA so they die in two years (not seen that yet). ...
:lol: I went for my routine blood test this morning at the hospital. Screening still at the door. Masks everywhere throughout - they actually give you one and insist you put theirs on even if you have one yourself. Hospital. It's almost like medical people know medical stuff isn't it? :lol: |
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:lol: Yes but they are not the poor persecuted brave "truth seeking doctors and nurses" they are just the government paid off (I wish) ones. Despite my high exposure professional environment and my necessary multiple trips to the UK, being fully vaxxed and boosted (and thankfully still alive with DNA intact), avoiding high risk situations and wearing my N95 whenever I need to, I still haven't had Covid. Science working maybe?
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Originally Posted by Stinkypup
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:lol: Yes but they are not the poor persecuted brave "truth seeking doctors and nurses" they are just the government paid off (I wish) ones. Despite my high exposure professional environment and my necessary multiple trips to the UK, being fully vaxxed and boosted (and thankfully still alive with DNA intact), avoiding high risk situations and wearing my N95 whenever I need to, I still haven't had Covid. Science working maybe?
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These are totally reasonable points you raise and I am definitely not saying that I agree with everything that is done here in BC, far from it, some of it does not make sense. Concerning unvaccinated doctors and nurses, they do seem to be digging their heels in despite what seems to be a very significant nursing crisis. Does it make scientific sense? Not with transmitting Covid but it perhaps does reflect on their lax attitude towards the virus and its potential effects which can be hugely significant. Would I be up in arms if they were allowed back? No not at all, just disappointed that they took this ridiculous attitude in the first place given that they are obliged to be vaccinated against several other infectious diseases. Concerning unvaccinated doctors, if they were responsible for disseminating misinformation, I do not feel that they should ever practice again, if it was simply that they objected to the Covid vaccine then the same concerns would apply as the nurses but I would accept their return to work.
I would not cite the UK as an example to follow, they have been appalling throughout this whole pandemic. They have not been doing anything really since the so called "Freedom day" (back in July 18 months ago). The government was determined that everybody should get it irrespective of potential long-term consequences and that is something that I will never forgive them for. My mum is in a residential facility in the UK and following the removal of the mask mandate within the facility, shortly after she got a second round of Covid, ( the first time right at the beginning of the pandemic (before they mandated masks) and this then subsequently developed into a secondary bacterial infection and I am amazed that she survived. #vaccinessavelives Concerning the vaccines here in BC, as you say, the mandated number of doses is 2 which is indeed almost certainly totally inadequate given that people who have had just 2 doses are getting very sick at times and some are ending up in hospital here. We moved away from mandating both masks and vaccines to a personal choice, not unreasonable I feel given where we are with the pandemic now with vaccines and therapeutics available. I will take whatever vaccine is offered to me and will continue to wear an N95 mask in situations that I feel will put me at risk. Do I feel that the mandates should have remained? No, definitely not, its now personal choice. (Having said that, I have seen a ton of patients with Covid recently, thankfully none have needed hospitalization but I would say probably two thirds of them have felt completely wiped out at best and at worst have her run this persistent cough and fatigue and muscle aches that have prevented them from going back to work for a considerable time this is precisely why I do not want to contract it.) I strike the middle ground, I run a large science based Covid Facebook group and have done for the last 3 years, there are people there that are still very hesitant to go out, many of them immunocompromised, I try and lead a relatively normal life, we do have to move on but we should also try and help protect the vulnerable. |
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Originally Posted by Stinkypup
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These are totally reasonable points you raise and I am definitely not saying that I agree with everything that is done here in BC, far from it, some of it does not make sense. Concerning unvaccinated doctors and nurses, they do seem to be digging their heels in despite what seems to be a very significant nursing crisis. Does it make scientific sense? Not with transmitting Covid but it perhaps does reflect on their lax attitude towards the virus and its potential effects which can be hugely significant. Would I be up in arms if they were allowed back? No not at all, just disappointed that they took this ridiculous attitude in the first place given that they are obliged to be vaccinated against several other infectious diseases. Concerning unvaccinated doctors, if they were responsible for disseminating misinformation, I do not feel that they should ever practice again, if it was simply that they objected to the Covid vaccine then the same concerns would apply as the nurses but I would accept their return to work.
I would not cite the UK as an example to follow, they have been appalling throughout this whole pandemic. They have not been doing anything really since the so called "Freedom day" (back in July 18 months ago). The government was determined that everybody should get it irrespective of potential long-term consequences and that is something that I will never forgive them for. My mum is in a residential facility in the UK and following the removal of the mask mandate within the facility, shortly after she got a second round of Covid, ( the first time right at the beginning of the pandemic (before they mandated masks) and this then subsequently developed into a secondary bacterial infection and I am amazed that she survived. #vaccinessavelives Concerning the vaccines here in BC, as you say, the mandated number of doses is 2 which is indeed almost certainly totally inadequate given that people who have had just 2 doses are getting very sick at times and some are ending up in hospital here. We moved away from mandating both masks and vaccines to a personal choice, not unreasonable I feel given where we are with the pandemic now with vaccines and therapeutics available. I will take whatever vaccine is offered to me and will continue to wear an N95 mask in situations that I feel will put me at risk. Do I feel that the mandates should have remained? No, definitely not, its now personal choice. (Having said that, I have seen a ton of patients with Covid recently, thankfully none have needed hospitalization but I would say probably two thirds of them have felt completely wiped out at best and at worst have her run this persistent cough and fatigue and muscle aches that have prevented them from going back to work for a considerable time this is precisely why I do not want to contract it.) I strike the middle ground, I run a large science based Covid Facebook group and have done for the last 3 years, there are people there that are still very hesitant to go out, many of them immunocompromised, I try and lead a relatively normal life, we do have to move on but we should also try and help protect the vulnerable. |
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New Brunswick has never experienced an increase in death counts anywhere near that size in a single year. Prior to the pandemic, the closest was a war time increase of 510 in 1945. |
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
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I wonder what could possibly have caused that increase on a year that was already higher than usual.
Wait, there was a pandemic and people died at unprecedented rates last year, when we didn't have to worry about it anymore? According to the “hazard index” published by COVID-19 Resources Canada, a grassroots initiative with the objective of facilitating Canada’s response to the pandemic, B.C. has had the highest score across the country for more than a month. The index is calculated from current infections and spread, health care system impact and mortality. Tara Moriarty, an infectious-disease researcher and co-founder of the group, said the high score in B.C. is driven by a combination of first-time infections and the effectiveness of COVID vaccines starting to wane. She added people who were infected early in the Omicron wave have begun to lose antibodies providing protection. British Columbia is followed by Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland and Labrador, and Saskatchewan, which are all marked “severe.” Yet our health guru Bonnie Henry says of the report: She said thanks to the high level of population immunity, the virus is no longer causing severe disease in most people, and this is why the public can now move forward with confidence and remove some of the COVID-19 measures that were in place. |
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Don't know if this is true, but they say that Toronto is going to go bancrupt and the budget shortfall is due to lack of ridership on the TTC during the Corona pandemic.
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N.B.'s COVID-19 hazard index highest in Canada, says researcher, as virus kills 3 more
3-5 weekly deaths has been pretty consistent here. New Brunswick's COVID-19 hazard index has more than doubled in a week and is now the highest in the country, according to an infectious diseases researcher and co-founder of COVID-19 Resources Canada. The province is still listed as "severe," but its score for Oct. 21 to Nov. 3 has jumped to 22.8 from 10 a week ago, data posted by Tara Moriarty on social media Monday shows. The national average is 21.2, with an estimated one in every 19 Canadians currently infected, says Moriarty, an associate professor at the University of Toronto.In New Brunswick, about one in 10 people are infected. The reason put forward was not that we were being good boys and girls following the guidance it was "because of low population density". I always thought that was nonsense because while the population is much lower you sit on a bus with the same number of fellow passengers, stand in line or sit with the same number of people in Tim Hortons, class sizes are fairly standard, you share a taxi with the same number of taxi drivers, your queue in the bank or supermarket is pretty much the same everywhere, cinema seats have seats next to you, behind and front the same as everywhere else and so on. So now we have a higher infection rate than other provinces. :nod: Almost double |
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I had No. 5 on Sunday, with a side of flu shot. No side effects other than 2 sore arms and a bit of general ache this time. Noted from my BC records that I've had all Moderna except for my first one which was the Astra Zeneca
Mrs. withabix had No. 6 (works for a regional health body), and she's had Pfizer every time. Both of us had OG Covid in December 2020, thanks to one of my work colleagues - having worked our way through 2020 on a municipal construction project with 300 other people (we were classed as Essential Workers) with 1 case, some kind chap brought it to work to share and about 12 of us got it all at once... Quite a few colleagues have had Covid in the last few weeks and it was a 3-days-in-bed job, despite on their previous time only having mild symptoms. So this XBB1.x might be a worse variant... |
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Had my second bout of the 'rona week before last. Runny nose for a couple of days, achy for a couple of days, no cough, no fever but positive rapid test. My youngest caught it from me, and as she's immunocompromised through chemo, when she spiked a fever we had to take her to the ER (following the protocol for kids going through chemo). Long story, short, she got hospitalised for a week - and me with her - not because she was particularly ill - her symptoms were pretty much the same as mine - but because her neutrophil levels dropped to zero & that meant staying in hospital on IV antibiotics in case its bacterial not viral until they rebound.
A notable difference from the peak pandemic to now was the experience at the hospital. We were in an isolation room & all the nurses and doctors were fully gowned and masked to enter. However, I was free to leave - masked - and return home to pick up stuff, get a shower etc. Back in the pandemic my brother in law had his twin three year olds hospitalised and he and his partner had to stay in their room for a week not being allowed to leave. As a result, we've not got our covid boosters yet but will do so. Got flu shots yesterday anyway. |
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
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Had my second bout of the 'rona week before last. Runny nose for a couple of days, achy for a couple of days, no cough, no fever but positive rapid test. My youngest caught it from me, and as she's immunocompromised through chemo, when she spiked a fever we had to take her to the ER (following the protocol for kids going through chemo). Long story, short, she got hospitalised for a week - and me with her - not because she was particularly ill - her symptoms were pretty much the same as mine - but because her neutrophil levels dropped to zero & that meant staying in hospital on IV antibiotics in case its bacterial not viral until they rebound.
A notable difference from the peak pandemic to now was the experience at the hospital. Detailed screening and compulsory mask wearing went to a poster on the door asking about symptoms but if you said yes, to go to the appointment anyway, telling the staff about it. Whether this was just for extra precautions or they tested you I don't know. I accompanied my MIL to an appointment there and I was disappointed to see some staff nattering with visitors who were friends or ex colleagues. The disappointing bit was a woman (staff) who hugged them and then stood back saying "I'll keep my distance as I have a bit of a cold" :ohmy: So why hug then? She did this with different people, 10 minutes apart. A week later they announced mask wearing would be required if they had outbreaks and then they brought back masks even though there weren't any outbreaks. So there probably were, they just didn't say so. Or they thought it best to do so given the release of the infection rates in NB by then. Three out of four in our house have colds with enough other symptoms for it to be covid but it's not practical to get tested and know for sure. |
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
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I hope that all passed without further complications.
They can't make their minds up here. Detailed screening and compulsory mask wearing went to a poster on the door asking about symptoms but if you said yes, to go to the appointment anyway, telling the staff about it. Whether this was just for extra precautions or they tested you I don't know. I accompanied my MIL to an appointment there and I was disappointed to see some staff nattering with visitors who were friends or ex colleagues. The disappointing bit was a woman (staff) who hugged them and then stood back saying "I'll keep my distance as I have a bit of a cold" :ohmy: So why hug then? She did this with different people, 10 minutes apart. A week later they announced mask wearing would be required if they had outbreaks and then they brought back masks even though there weren't any outbreaks. So there probably were, they just didn't say so. Or they thought it best to do so given the release of the infection rates in NB by then. Three out of four in our house have colds with enough other symptoms for it to be covid but it's not practical to get tested and know for sure. I think that testing for COVID is probably not necessary for the majority of the population depending upon age and comorbidities, just practicing good hygiene and stay home if sick or if you absolutely must go out for some reason, wear a mask. We had a job to do yesterday and one of the ladies at the home said she had a head cold and wore a mask the whole time we were in there despite not needing to interact closely with us which was very good of her. |
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Had my 6th shot in early October, together with the Flu shot, both in the left arm, right up close to the shoulder ............... an inch or so higher than any other shot I've ever had.
Then we took a train trip in late October to Jasper for a few days holiday, I wore a mask unless actually eating or drinking. Visited my physio the following week, after the new mask mandate had been announced. He was wearing a mask, as were all the other physios and staff. Bu he said that it was not compulsory for "clients" to wear a mask, only those working there. Just yesterday, I heard that someone had travelled on The Canadian train from Toronto to Jasper last week, all 4 of them came down with Covid on the day they arrived, one of them had a very bad case. That's a 3 night journey, so they had to have been exposed to it either immediately before leaving Toronto or on the train. We travel on the train again next month. I'll be wearing my mask! |
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Here in the UK I have definitely noticed an increase in the number of people saying that they, or family members, have had Covid again recently. Fortunately nobody seems to have been seriously unwell, and - for right or wrong - there seems to be zero mitigation measures in place anywhere (though I've not been to any medical facilities so can't comment on any measures there).
I think social distancing/isolation measures would be close to impossible to implement in the UK now. The genie of 'exceptionalism' is well and truly out of the bottle, largely due to Boris Johnson & Co.. |
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
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Had my second bout of the 'rona week before last. Runny nose for a couple of days, achy for a couple of days, no cough, no fever but positive rapid test. My youngest caught it from me, and as she's immunocompromised through chemo, when she spiked a fever we had to take her to the ER (following the protocol for kids going through chemo). Long story, short, she got hospitalised for a week - and me with her - not because she was particularly ill - her symptoms were pretty much the same as mine - but because her neutrophil levels dropped to zero & that meant staying in hospital on IV antibiotics in case its bacterial not viral until they rebound.
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I got a reminder of this 22 minutes sketch today.
Back in Covid, the borders were closed. |
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