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Atlantic Xpat May 7th 2020 3:59 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Shits getting real...


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...65acecc289.png

Almost Canadian May 7th 2020 4:53 pm

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12849638)
We didn't have meat birds a second time. I'm glad to have tried it though.

Was that because of the cost/benefit or the issue of the killing etc.?

dbd33 May 7th 2020 5:19 pm

Re: Masks
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12849703)
Was that because of the cost/benefit or the issue of the killing etc.?

Effort vs. benefit. Eggs, garlic, onions, peas, peppers, potatoes worth the effort. Meat birds, parsnips, carrots, not so much. This hugely depends on preference though, meat birds are certainly worth trying.

BristolUK May 7th 2020 7:06 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 12844662)
In NB we can actually elect to have a 2 Bubble Family, but you both have to be happy with that, and once you have elected you can't change your mind. We heard about this on Friday evening and had our neighbors round on Saturday...they are in their late 80's and have no family in the Province. It was super !

NB is slipping back into its secret ways again and possibly undoing its good work so far.
More than two weeks without a new case and all 118 who tested positive have recovered. Then 2 new cases in the last 2 days.

When the first cases broke, very quickly the province said it was tracing contacts and a couple of days later had traced and tested (and found positive) a bunch of those contacts.

Contrast that with the latest release of "information" :( courtesy of CBC.

The latest case is travel-related and involves a person between the ages of 20 and 29 in Zone 2, which is the Saint John region, said Dr. Jennifer Russell (chief medical officer)

The individual had come into contact with someone who later tested positive for COVID-19 in Ontario. Under the border-crossing rules, the New Brunswick resident had to immediately go into self-isolation on returning to the province and had no contact with other people before being tested.
Russell wouldn't say whether that individual drove or flew to New Brunswick.
So was the NBer still in Ontario after the positive test of the contact? Or was this latest individual on the way to NB or had already arrived back in NB when they got to hear of the Ontario person's later test result. And whichever of these three scenarios played out, we're expected to believe they came into contact with nobody. Whether by car - no rest stops, or anything on the way, no gas stations, no bit of shopping before self isolating etc - or they flew but came into contact with nobody at airport, other passengers, nobody at baggage reclaim, all the way to their self isolation.

(The other of the two new cases) is still under investigation and it's not known yet if it's travel-related or a community transmission.
This is slower than previous examples when it should be far quicker (practice and a lack of pressure as there are no other cases). In the early days the primary mover for a test was the fact the person had travelled. They've extended access to tests since then but travel is still the major one. The question must already have been asked. If they haven't travelled then clearly it can't be travel related. - unless they were a close contact of someone who did travel, but the province has not been counting those as travel related.

Russell also provided more information about a person who landed at the Moncton airport last week who had tested positive for COVID-19.
This is another case of someone flying into Moncton as a potential carrier where useful information about that has come from anybody other than the NB government such as adjoining provincial governments, the airport or the airline. NB keeps schtum.

That individual was tested in Alberta, she said, and was no longer contagious on the WestJet flight to New Brunswick. "They had finished their self-isolation after their diagnosis," she said.
Public Health Agency of Canada apparently determined that the passenger in question was medically fit to fly and was not infectious.
So why was it even announced, why are officials saying they don't know where this person is or has been since arrival? Why are they announcing very specific flight details with the appeal "If you or anyone you have been in close contact with was on this flight, please self-isolate for 14 days" if this person was not contagious?


Premier Higgs said he was also aware of workers from outside the province working on a construction project in Fredericton who didn't self-isolate properly. However, the problem has since been resolved, Higgs said, without providing details. "To my knowledge that situation has been addressed directly to ensure they are following the rules.
We were led to believe that strict procedures were applying to people entering the province. A particular construction crew should have been easier to monitor shouldn't it? Has someone dropped the ball? "to my knowledge" is a well known cop-out.

...over the last 10 days, an average of 38 vehicles a day are being turned away from the province's seven entry points. He didn't say how many are let through.
Why not? Because we now have information to suggest that the instructions issued to those crossing the border might prove ineffective so it's best not to know for how many this may prove ineffective?

MillieF May 7th 2020 7:13 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Is it me or has something odd happened to this thread...it seems to be both Masks and Coronavirus on the subject headings of individual posts up thread ?

Jerseygirl May 7th 2020 7:21 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 12849800)
Is it me or has something odd happened to this thread...it seems to be both Masks and Coronavirus on the subject headings of individual posts up thread ?

it was me. I thought I was posting in this thread but it was the mask thread. Therefore I moved my post and subsequent posts into this thread.

MillieF May 7th 2020 7:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12849805)
it was me. I thought I was posting in this thread but it was the mask thread. Therefore I moved my post and subsequent posts into this thread.

No problem! I have a very odd tablet and I thought it might just be me - I often get odd Portuguese looking characters pop into the middle of posts...which other posters don’t see :o

dbd33 May 7th 2020 7:49 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 12849800)
Is it me or has something odd happened to this thread...it seems to be both Masks and Coronavirus on the subject headings of individual posts up thread ?


Oh yes! The thread must not have worn a mask and has now caught the virus.

scrubbedexpat091 May 7th 2020 9:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
17-24 months and a cost of $250 million to catch up on all the surgeries that were postponed due to COVID, surgeries set to resume mid-May. (This is for BC only)

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/elective-surge...eeks-1.4928842

scrubbedexpat091 May 7th 2020 10:58 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
"Dr. Bonnie Henry announced Thursday 33 new COVID-19 cases in the province and said two people have died in the last 24 hours."

76 in hospital, 20 of those in ICU

I like this quote from Dr. Henry "-"The future is in our hands and we must continue to wash them.""

As restrictions are lifted, Dr. Henry still asks people to stay home as much as possible, be cautious when going out, continue physical distancing and avoid non-essential travel.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ay-7-1.5560298


scrubbedexpat091 May 8th 2020 6:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
The economy is ugly, as I has suspected last Month say unemployment rise into double digits.

11.5% unemployment in BC and that doesn't include people like me who lost a job due to COVID before we could start said job or those who were unemployed already.

264,100 jobs lost in April, on top of the 130,000 lost in March, from April 2019 to April 2020, 420,000 jobs lost.

Canada as a whole is at 13% unemployment which is 2nd highest on record apparently.

Metro Vancouver which is BC's economic driver, lost 101,000 jobs.

Looks like Montreal was hit hard, 18% unemployment.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6920385/b...irus-pandemic/




Paul_Shepherd May 8th 2020 7:58 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12850241)
The economy is ugly, as I has suspected last Month say unemployment rise into double digits.

11.5% unemployment in BC and that doesn't include people like me who lost a job due to COVID before we could start said job or those who were unemployed already.

264,100 jobs lost in April, on top of the 130,000 lost in March, from April 2019 to April 2020, 420,000 jobs lost.

Canada as a whole is at 13% unemployment which is 2nd highest on record apparently.

Metro Vancouver which is BC's economic driver, lost 101,000 jobs.

Looks like Montreal was hit hard, 18% unemployment.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6920385/b...irus-pandemic/

Hopefully a lot of the unemployment figures are temporary as a lot are temporary layoffs.....well were supposed to be, but the longer this virus drags on, many will become permanent....I guess a lot of the service industry will.... pubs and restaurants etc.... I dont see how they can operate at half capacity. Terrible for the owners of those places, they stand to lose a lot. Sadly I think it will be years before that industry recovers from this.


scrubbedexpat091 May 8th 2020 8:52 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12850284)
Hopefully a lot of the unemployment figures are temporary as a lot are temporary layoffs.....well were supposed to be, but the longer this virus drags on, many will become permanent....I guess a lot of the service industry will.... pubs and restaurants etc.... I dont see how they can operate at half capacity. Terrible for the owners of those places, they stand to lose a lot. Sadly I think it will be years before that industry recovers from this.

I am sure it will drop some in the coming months, hard to say right now how many jobs will come back and how quickly.

Apparently 47% of the lost jobs in BC were in retail and food service.

Teaandtoday5 May 9th 2020 2:28 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/
1.5562506

did you see this Jsmth321? (I confess to not having read the whole article )

Siouxie May 9th 2020 4:46 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12850517)
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/
1.5562506

did you see this Jsmth321? (I confess to not having read the whole article )

:fingerscrossed:

scrubbedexpat091 May 9th 2020 8:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12850517)
https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/
1.5562506

did you see this Jsmth321? (I confess to not having read the whole article )

Yes, I did see it. I haven't heard anything from the IRS, but maybe a check will pop up in the mail, they have my address and returns, well they should anyhow, I sent them in...ha ha

Suppose all I can do is wait and see, their online info doesn't show anything.

scrubbedexpat091 May 9th 2020 8:59 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Army & Navy is closing their doors after 101 years, doesn't look like they had the cash to get through this.

I didn't go to their stores often, but they were a good place to get workbooks and other work gear at good prices, sometimes 50%+ cheaper than Marks.





caretaker May 9th 2020 9:29 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12850657)
Army & Navy is closing their doors after 101 years, doesn't look like they had the cash to get through this.

I didn't go to their stores often, but they were a good place to get workbooks and other work gear at good prices, sometimes 50%+ cheaper than Marks.

Oh no! That's a cultural icon gone on a par with any in Vancouver. I have vivid memories of shopping there, along with Save-On Meats and others. Nothing stays the same; now I think I know what Grandpa Simpson is yelling at.
When I was 18 I worked at Army and Navy in Regina in the men's ware dept for a couple of months.

scrubbedexpat091 May 9th 2020 10:09 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12850675)
Oh no! That's a cultural icon gone on a par with any in Vancouver. I have vivid memories of shopping there, along with Save-On Meats and others. Nothing stays the same; now I think I know what Grandpa Simpson is yelling at.
When I was 18 I worked at Army and Navy in Regina in the men's ware dept for a couple of months.

The future is Wal-Mart, Costco, Canadian Tire, Amazon, Home Depot kind of world, nothing but box stores in our future, the small unique retailers just can't compete in today's world.


scrubbedexpat091 May 10th 2020 7:25 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Opinion piece from an economist, but he is likely correct, the real unemployment is higher than the official rate because of how the official rate is defined. Could be closer to 30%.

https://www.thestar.com/business/opi...e-like-30.html

Paul_Shepherd May 11th 2020 11:05 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12850688)
The future is Wal-Mart, Costco, Canadian Tire, Amazon, Home Depot kind of world, nothing but box stores in our future, the small unique retailers just can't compete in today's world.

Yeah disposable garbage from China that doesn’t last 5 minutes and ends up in land fills……the disposable society we now live in, that’s the real environmental problem in my opinion. We need to get back to building/manufacturing products that last!

And……. Monday morning rant over!



Partially discharged May 11th 2020 11:15 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12851261)
Yeah disposable garbage from China that doesn’t last 5 minutes and ends up in land fills……the disposable society we now live in, that’s the real environmental problem in my opinion. We need to get back to building/manufacturing products that last!

And……. Monday morning rant over!

Agree.....the thought of a world just full of (Spr)awl Mart, and the big box behomeths isn't a pleasant thought....it's bad enough that commercial areas all over Canada USA are virtually indistinguishable now..imagine if all the independent retailers were gone.

dbd33 May 11th 2020 11:24 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 12851263)
Agree.....the thought of a world just full of (Spr)awl Mart, and the big box behomeths isn't a pleasant thought....it's bad enough that commercial areas all over Canada USA are virtually indistinguishable now..imagine if all the independent retailers were gone.

It's our choice though, innit? If you don't like Wal-Mart don't go there. I don't but nothing's lost, I still park outside and gawk at the sort of people who do go there.

Partially discharged May 11th 2020 1:02 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12851267)
It's our choice though, innit? If you don't like Wal-Mart don't go there. I don't but nothing's lost, I still park outside and gawk at the sort of people who do go there.

I don't go to Walmart but must admit I do go to Costco and use Amazon. It's the sameness of places like Walmart all across the country that I find annoying. The architect for Walmart and Costco got paid once.

dbd33 May 11th 2020 1:16 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 12851304)
I don't go to Walmart but must admit I do go to Costco and use Amazon. It's the sameness of places like Walmart all across the country that I find annoying. The architect for Walmart and Costco got paid once.


Oh but they're in non-places that look the same. King of Prussia, Richardson, Mississauga, Kanata, Brampton. Suburbs for Hyundai drivers. They don't make those places look any worse.

Former Lancastrian May 11th 2020 1:26 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 12851304)
I don't go to Walmart but must admit I do go to Costco and use Amazon. It's the sameness of places like Walmart all across the country that I find annoying. The architect for Walmart and Costco got paid once.

Is it just the aesthetics of the exteriors of these stores on the outside or the inside that is annoying? Apparently the average Walmart store is approx 105,000 sq ft and Costco is around 144,000 sq ft. I guess they could look at making the outside of the stores to look more like a pyramid or something else and perhaps different colour schemes but the outside signage would probably remain the same to distinguish it from the other pyramid shaped big box stores like Best Buy, the Brick etc etc.

If using the interiors then Costco is great as every Costco looks the same and the layouts almost identical as to where products are. I hate it when shopping at other stores I get used to a certain product being in a certain aisle then 3 months later they move it to another aisle. WHY????

Some would call it an ingenious move by them as they only needed one architect to design their stores and saved a shed load of money not having to hire multiple ones just so they could have different looking stores.

Atlantic Xpat May 11th 2020 2:39 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12851315)
If using the interiors then Costco is great as every Costco looks the same and the layouts almost identical as to where products are. I hate it when shopping at other stores I get used to a certain product being in a certain aisle then 3 months later they move it to another aisle. WHY????.

That's deliberate. The more time you spend wandering around the store looking for things, the higher the probability you will find other things that you also decide to buy. I find this happens in the supermarkets frequently, Costco less so. Although the new Costco here has only been open 6 months or so. It is, allegedly, the biggest and busiest in Canada. The former Costco building -in a different part of St John's - is now an empty box with no hope of being filled. It's next door to the Zellers/Target that has been similarly empty and decaying for 2-3 years.

BristolUK May 11th 2020 3:40 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12851315)
...Costco looks the same and the layouts almost identical as to where products are. I hate it when shopping at other stores I get used to a certain product being in a certain aisle then 3 months later they move it to another aisle. WHY????

The two I most use here have pretty much stopped shifting things around. The last two changes were to accommodate the wine they were allowed to start selling and now the added beer.

The layout, no matter which store chain or store is pretty much the same here. The one exception being where you go in and work your way left rather than to the right. But even then it's like a mirror image and you shop in the same order, just the opposite direction. :lol:

It makes it very easy for your list. :thumbup:

scrubbedexpat091 May 11th 2020 7:20 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Westjet is extending its flight cancellation and schedule reduction through July 4th now, and wont start some seasonal routes, trans-border flights are cut through June 25th.

Vancouver Airport Authority issuing 100 lay off notices, the airport authority has approx 550 employees. YVR expects to see between 8 & 15 million passengers per year for the next 3 years, down from 26 million in 2019.

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/05...ouver-airport/


magnumpi May 13th 2020 2:47 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Morgan calling a spade a spade, I not a big fan of this guy, but he does call out the U.K. Gov boffins on airport testing and the whole shit show in UK

I don’t know how to show link



Siouxie May 13th 2020 3:51 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12852396)
Morgan calling a spade a spade, I not a big fan of this guy, but he does call out the U.K. Gov boffins on airport testing and the whole shit show in UK

I don’t know how to show link
Other link

PeoplesMomentum/videos/237489280855346/?vh=e

https://www.facebook.com/1442162321/...114583685/?d=n

I tried to get it to show the links but wasn't totally successful. Highlight 2 words, click on the 'link' symbol in the toolbar above the message box.. input the link. click ok. Works sometimes, not others!
:)

magnumpi May 13th 2020 4:41 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12852436)
I tried to get it to show the links but wasn't totally successful. Highlight 2 words, click on the 'link' symbol in the toolbar above the message box.. input the link. click ok. Works sometimes, not others!
:)


Thanks your Quote works

jimf May 13th 2020 8:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
This could be very significant:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...proval-public/

Siouxie May 13th 2020 10:39 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...cal-tests.html


Today, following priority scientific review, Health Canada authorized the first COVID-19 serological test for use in Canada, the DiaSorin LIAISON®. Canadian laboratories will use the test to detect antibodies specific to COVID-19.

dbd33 May 13th 2020 11:44 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 12852597)


Maybe, but isn't it the case that no one knows what having antibodies means in terms of future infection; people who have antibodies may still catch COVID-19, perhaps multiple times, they might also spread it. It's a step in the right direction, certainly, but perhaps not a huge one.

scrubbedexpat091 May 14th 2020 2:27 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
If your living in BC, the BC CDC is looking for the public to complete a survey on COVID, at the end you also have the choice to participate in an anti-body study they are conducting.

http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/dise...ovid-19-survey

Siouxie May 14th 2020 3:56 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Financial help for Seniors... https://www.canada.ca/en/department-...onse-plan.html

  • Providing a one-time tax-free payment
  • We are providing a one-time tax-free payment of $300 for seniors eligible for the Old Age Security (OAS) pension, with an additional $200 for seniors eligible for the Guaranteed Income Supplement (GIS).

    This measure would give a total of $500 to individuals who are eligible to receive both the OAS and the GIS, and will help them cover increased costs caused by COVID-19.


Danny B May 14th 2020 4:11 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Couple of dogs infected with COVID now...


Jerseygirl May 14th 2020 8:10 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Ontario has released details of Phase 1 from May 16th.

https://www.cp24.com/news/phase-1-of...orts-1.4938926

magnumpi May 14th 2020 8:41 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Anyone who has company medical benefits just be aware if your company is paying your portion while on CERB you will be liable to pay them back when u earn again.

I became aware today as I did a few hours and got paid nothing as I was deducted the Excess to cover the “loan” for my medical

Wasn’t aware it was a loan lol “But I know now”


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