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magnumpi Mar 17th 2020 2:48 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12795717)
yeh in my role as a Facebook virus specialist and professional internet advisor I say don’t go outside where people is

i was right lol. From the start of this thread.

They called a state of emergency in Ontario

Paul_Shepherd Mar 17th 2020 2:52 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12822265)
I think you are right, unless you are in a high risk group.

https://twitter.com/totallykeen/stat...155253248?s=20


The public need more announcements and statements like that.... facts, calming facts, but we all know what the media is like, then add social media on top of that too not surprising a lot of people go into panic mode.

dbd33 Mar 17th 2020 3:03 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12822293)
The public need more announcements and statements like that.... facts, calming facts, but we all know what the media is like, then add social media on top of that too not surprising a lot of people go into panic mode.

Who has gone into an inappropriate panic mode? Perhaps the people walking stuffed animals in Spain but, otherwise, deaths all over world, collapse of the global economy, postponement of Euro 2020, pubs closed on St. Patrick's Day - if panic is not fitting behaviour now, when would it be? My emotions are enflamed, let me tell you.

magnumpi Mar 17th 2020 3:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12822307)
Who has gone into an inappropriate panic mode? Perhaps the people walking stuffed animals in Spain but, otherwise, deaths all over world, collapse of the global economy, postponement of Euro 2020, pubs closed on St. Patrick's Day - if panic is not fitting behaviour now, when would it be? My emotions are enflamed, let me tell you.

i just cancelled guitar jam night with the band, I must be serious :(

HGerchikov Mar 17th 2020 3:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12822293)
The public need more announcements and statements like that.... facts, calming facts, but we all know what the media is like, then add social media on top of that too not surprising a lot of people go into panic mode.

I actually think the media has put out the information that for most of us its not going to be a big deal to get the disease - perhaps they have spread that message a bit too clearly resulting in large sections of the population carrying on as normal up to this point thinking that they have nothing to worry about. The issue is that if we carry on as normal resulting in the projected 80% of the population becoming infected and if only 1% of those die - its still a lot of dead bodies.

Jingsamichty Mar 17th 2020 3:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Pub quiz night on Thursday cancelled. :( It's the end of the world as we know it.

Hawkmoon77 Mar 17th 2020 3:35 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12822318)
i just cancelled guitar jam night with the band, I must be serious :(


I hear you. Guitar lesson cancelled. How am I going to play like Richard Thompson if a global pandemic is holding me back? Hmmm?

Paul_Shepherd Mar 17th 2020 4:50 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12822307)
Who has gone into an inappropriate panic mode? Perhaps the people walking stuffed animals in Spain but, otherwise, deaths all over world, collapse of the global economy, postponement of Euro 2020, pubs closed on St. Patrick's Day - if panic is not fitting behaviour now, when would it be? My emotions are enflamed, let me tell you.

I have to say you know its serious when pubs have been forced to close on St Patricks day!

Seriously there is no doubt its serious, but I think its good that governments are also trying to calm the public, they need to be informed but not inflamed which the media is great at doing. Anyway I thought the British meme was keep calm and carry on? at least it was in 1939...society has changed somewhat since then.

Paul_Shepherd Mar 17th 2020 5:13 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by HGerchikov (Post 12822320)
I actually think the media has put out the information that for most of us its not going to be a big deal to get the disease - perhaps they have spread that message a bit too clearly resulting in large sections of the population carrying on as normal up to this point thinking that they have nothing to worry about. The issue is that if we carry on as normal resulting in the projected 80% of the population becoming infected and if only 1% of those die - its still a lot of dead bodies.

I hear what your saying.... I think a lot of it comes down the individual personalities and behaviour, social media for example has inflamed this no end (hes says typing this on a social media forum) but you know what I mean.

Personally I look at practically and pragmatically. and how i should adjust my life at this time, maybe I am a little bit too laid back about it, but I am a middle aged guy in good health, with no underlying health issues. I am not at high risk...I certainly don't want it, but if I did, I'd hope my immune system would deal with it. Of course everyone's case is different, I can totally understand older people, and people with health issues being very concerned and worried.

Now.... I am worried for some older friends of mine, and one that has heart condition and another a kidney issue, I have made a point of staying away from them, as for all I know I could be carrying it without symptons, many people are in that situation. Apart from that I am going about life as normal as I can and heeding government advice....

I do understand what you are saying though in that play it down too much people carry as normal, but make sensational statements people start panic buying strange things like toilet roll, I still don't understand that....as I mentioned before its a bigger mystery than the virus.




caretaker Mar 17th 2020 5:44 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12822381)
Anyway I thought the British meme was keep calm and carry on? at least it was in 1939...society has changed somewhat since then.

Society has changed but a lot still rests on the leader's ability to instill confidence.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...4a908766b4.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...55961d2c57.jpg



Siouxie Mar 17th 2020 6:26 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Shoppers Drug Mart are reserving the 1st hour of opening for Seniors and those with disabilitites..

@ShopprsDrugMart
1/2 Starting this week, Shoppers Drug Mart is dedicating the first opening hour of shopping at our stores to our customers who need assistance or consideration, including seniors and people living with disabilities.

2/2 We encourage you to check with your local store to confirm operating hours. Shoppers Drug Mart will also offer the 20% Seniors Day discount on regular priced items for the first hour each day every day. This is in addition to Seniors Days each Thursday.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 17th 2020 6:27 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
BC is critically low on testing swabs.

Tell ya this type of situation when living with a bipolar is incredibly difficult. Feeds the paranoia symptoms of the disease and stress is triggering and she is becoming more manic, but because of the situation mental health people are unavailable and her doctor is unavailable so she is on her own at the moment unless it becomes an emergency.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 17th 2020 7:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
The street is eerily creepy in a way now. The usual drug addicts and homeless to hang out on the bus stop bench for hours a day socializing are nowhere to be seen, the buses that are normally packed have few people on them. The grocery store is very busy though. The hooker who normally stands on the corner every night hasn't been there since last week.

Quite odd out there.

BristolUK Mar 17th 2020 7:21 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
The province here has announced 'closures' of non essential services - I imagine this means some permits, ID card renewal, library services etc.

However, NB Liquor remains open as an essential service :lol:

I made sure to get a large bottle of scotch in as I only have one Friday night's worth. A night being two tumblers of a not strong mix of whisky and 7Up. I sent my stepson on the errand of mercy as soon as they opened today, just in case they were to shut at a moment's notice.

A bonus was he was able to come back with eggs as we were almost out of them, like some stores were.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 17th 2020 7:32 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
BC is suspending K-12 education indefinitely at this time, they are currently on spring break.

Danny B Mar 17th 2020 7:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12822307)
Who has gone into an inappropriate panic mode?

Not these guys

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 17th 2020 7:40 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
but but according to my conservative family members the liberal states are overeating and there is no reason to change anything and its just a flu.


Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12822475)


Teaandtoday5 Mar 17th 2020 8:49 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
LCBO are reducing their hours. :eek:

Jerseygirl Mar 17th 2020 9:06 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Amazon UK is no longer stocking and shipping all non-medical and non-essential supplies from its warehouses until April 5. Medical goods, baby products and groceries ( household cleaner, soaps) will now be prioritized amid the coronavirus pandemic. I wonder if this will occur in other parts of the world?

dbd33 Mar 17th 2020 9:20 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12822500)
LCBO are reducing their hours. :eek:

They're hardly open as it is.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 17th 2020 10:02 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Looks like dentists are closing. Both dentists I have seen in the past sent emails out today that they are closing until further notice.

Dogs vet is also closing until further notice.




caretaker Mar 17th 2020 10:11 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12822500)
LCBO are reducing their hours. :eek:

Ok, that's Ontario, right? No skin off my ass, but if sales volume is high enough that reducing hours increases shopper density it could be more dangerous than it is now. Cashiers do nothing but see people at close range one after another so they're obviously at risk, so maybe something like the silent patrolman shield in the police car, or the sneeze guard at the buffet would help. If a plexiglass barrier is effective it would be an easy universal retrofit. I think most people pay with plastic at the liquor store, limiting contact, but there would have to be a dedicated till for cash anyway, and money was already one of the dirtiest things around before all this started.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 17th 2020 10:12 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
No social distancing at this Amazon warehouse in Vancouver area.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 17th 2020 11:18 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I wonder what the homeless population plan is? With their usual hangouts closing (fast food, libraries etc) they wont have anywhere to go during the day, and shelters seem like they will be prime location for this virus to spread, its a small miracle it hasn't already, but maybe it is and just not making the news, same with the SRO's large number of people all sharing bathrooms and kitchens and those places are not exactly kept clean.

Homeless person has no home to self isolate to either.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 18th 2020 12:51 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Farms in Canada rely heavily on foreign workers, and farmers are worried.

https://www.simcoereformer.ca/news/l...-at-midnight-2

Big jump in cases in BC since yesterday, 83 new cases and 1 new death a man in his 80's, total cases now 186 in BC, and the province has declared a public health emergency. Went from 103 cases Monday to 186 as of 3pm Tuesday.


Siouxie Mar 18th 2020 1:24 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Judging by what a relative has been told - the whole family are ill, fever, hacking coughs - despite recently getting back from Mexico, 'no need for you to be tested.. isolate yourselves for 14 days, if you get worse, then call back".... I suspect there are many more potentially positive. Because they aren't testing (shortage of swabs in Ontario too), they can say 'hand on heart' that there are not that many new cases......... I call BS...

Jerseygirl Mar 18th 2020 1:29 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12822618)
Judging by what a relative has been told - the whole family are ill, fever, hacking coughs - despite recently getting back from Mexico, 'no need for you to be tested.. isolate yourselves for 14 days, if you get worse, then call back".... I suspect there are many more potentially positive. Because they aren't testing (shortage of swabs in Ontario too), they can say 'hand on heart' that there are not that many new cases......... I call BS...

I thought if you can cope with the symptoms and haven’t got health or age concerns...you just have to get on with it at home...like you would with the flu. Likewise if you have breathing problems...then it’s time to call the hospital. Goodness knows how long it will take to get to speak to someone or if they will say, ‘sorry we are full try somewhere else’. I presume the people waiting to get tested have either health/age concerns, or they are are looking after/working with someone who does.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 18th 2020 2:52 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Looks like the US and Canada are working together to come up with the best way to restrict travel across the border, according to CNN.

"The United States and Canada are preparing to issue a joint statement in the next 24-48 hours to suspend non-essential travel between the two countries, a Trump administration official tells CNN."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/polit...vel/index.html

dave_j Mar 18th 2020 6:31 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
I'm a bit of a socialist. I've always been one.
I've often thought that one of the most equal places to be is on the road. It doesn't matter whether you drive a Rolls or a heap of a Reliant Robin, the bit of road you're on is yours and yours alone. That square foot of road under the driver's seat is independant of wealth.
But I've had a revelation. Today the aware socialist among us would advocate that it's the coronavirus that's the new lefty.
Now I know that there are those out there who'll argue that treatment for the virus is very likely far from equal but it's the virus that doesn't care, it takes bodies as they come. It's pure socialism.
I've a perverted view that it'll actually target the better off. Why? Because the poor have a lower life expectancy and as we're all coming to appreciate, it's the very old who have targets on their back.
Karl Marx was an imposter, the virus is the real thing.

Paul_Shepherd Mar 18th 2020 10:40 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12822500)
LCBO are reducing their hours. :eek:

I don't get that at all...whats that supposed to achieve?? except create panic buying in there aswell.....with a view it may close altogether? with the pubs shut they should be increasing the hours! what a very strange decision.

Paul_Shepherd Mar 18th 2020 10:45 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12822620)
I thought if you can cope with the symptoms and haven’t got health or age concerns...you just have to get on with it at home...like you would with the flu. Likewise if you have breathing problems...then it’s time to call the hospital. Goodness knows how long it will take to get to speak to someone or if they will say, ‘sorry we are full try somewhere else’. I presume the people waiting to get tested have either health/age concerns, or they are are looking after/working with someone who does.

That's how I was thinking it will play out too, I think two of my friends could have already had it, it sounded very much like the symptoms, they had no breathing problems though.... I don't suppose we will ever know if they did or not. They are both feeling better now, but still not 100% and that was almost 2 weeks ago.

catsndogs Mar 18th 2020 11:35 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Hi All We are told to wear masks but where do we get them from? Shops don't seem to have them nor the Town halls. Can we get them from Medical centers? Thanks

Jerseygirl Mar 18th 2020 11:41 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by catsndogs (Post 12822772)
Hi All We are told to wear masks but where do we get them from? Shops don't seem to have them nor the Town halls. Can we get them from Medical centers? Thanks

A sweeping statement...quite the opposite actually. You only need to wear a mask if you are infected with the virus...to prevent infecting others...or if you are looking after someone who is infected. Leave the masks for those who actually need them.

magnumpi Mar 18th 2020 2:35 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Borders with USA 🇺🇸 closing Trump announcement says.

goods and food ok to cross

Danny B Mar 18th 2020 2:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Donald Trump tweets in the last few hours. Oh my God. Not really what you want to see from a world leader. 'Chinese Virus' :eek:

Paul_Shepherd Mar 18th 2020 2:47 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12822863)
Donald Trump tweets in the last few hours. Oh my God. Not really what you want to see from a world leader. 'Chinese Virus' :eek:

Lol! hes priceless entertainment!

dbd33 Mar 18th 2020 3:25 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12822865)
Lol! hes priceless entertainment!

A ****ing moron.

Jingsamichty Mar 18th 2020 3:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I watched the "Dirty Money" episode on Trump last night, on Netflix. What a loathsome, dishonest, greedy, lazy narcissist.

Jingsamichty Mar 18th 2020 3:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Talking of which, I'm "working from home" (i.e. on BE) while my wife is next door painting the dining room. :o

Danny B Mar 18th 2020 4:11 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 12822893)
Talking of which, I'm "working from home" (i.e. on BE) while my wife is next door painting the dining room. :o

I wondered why Pornhub was so slow this morning. :lol:


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