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Her poor family :( It's hard to get your head around how bad it must be in (particularly) that region, but those poor people are living it every day. Bastard virus.

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I hope he stays "bored but fine". My best wishes to all your familial diaspora.

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Thank you, I do rather feel for those who may never again leave Vancouver.

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You’ve probably contracted a STD, a different virus perhaps. You probably know where to get tested for that.

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This is what coronavirus looks like in an Italian hospital. My God it looks absolutely horrifying.

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US Government is suspending all routine US Embassy and Consulate services in Canada end of business day today, until further notice. No longer processing passports, visas etc.

Emergency services will still be available to US Citizens.

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Oddly prophetic Mitchell and Webb

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I can't post this in the other thread at the request of the OP, but housing prices might drop in Vancouver, but with so many going to be out of work, nobody will be able to get a mortgage.... Same thing happened in the US back in 2008, prices plummeted but most couldn't get mortgages, by the time economy recovered and people could, the prices went up, plus even a 50% drop in Vancouver, houses would still be 500,000+ and still not affordable in my view...ha ha

Anyhow not looking good, 500,000 Canadians applied for EI in the last week, 2.5% of the labor force. 20 times higher vs last the same week in 2019.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-r...week-1.1409633

I know 100% we will end up homeless, we cannot sustain this rent on disability, so unless one of us can get a job in the next month or so, not sure how we will make it going forward.

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I'm seeing indicators already. This house in Walnut Grove in Langley was just listed for $779k, which is about $50k-$70k less than what similar houses have been listed for in the area in the past year or so.

I'm sorry to hear that, I know that the government is bringing in extra payments on top of EI as well as possibly suspending evictions/rent payments. Honestly I would just refuse to leave. The landlord can defer their mortgage for 6 months. Do whatever it takes to get through this.

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I have no doubt prices will fall, just that people will be unemployed and unable to get a mortgage to buy. Must like what happened in the US 10-12 years ago.

I will barricade myself in for as long as possible if necessary, we will pay April rent in full, but by May we may not be able to, and may need to offer what we can pay and see what happens.

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Looks like the banks are confused, and people are having difficult time deferring their mortgage payments.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ban...id19-1.5503478

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There hasn’t been 1 single case of Covid 19 reported in Wuhan in the last 24 hours....that’s got to be positive...

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so why the hell aren’t western countries locking everyone and everything down? A lot of people in the UK don’t seem to be taking it seriously...or at least the ones I know aren’t. :mad:

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i would be surprised if you end up homeless. This whole situation is unknown, Ontario have suspended evictions and I am sure, if bullied into a corner by a landlord, your day in court would be both successful and financially beneficial

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Time will tell, BC hasn't as of yet made any changes to the RTA, they say they are consulting landlords to come up with a solution, so we will see. If they let rent deferral to be paid back later, no clue how to do that either. lol

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NB too. :nod:

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Good question. I keep seeing posts from people who think by end of next week everything will be back to normal, um no it wont, and the longer governments in the western world take to lock things down, the longer its going to take to recover. Look how long its taken in places that were in near total lock down to subside, should be pretty clear without such levels it will linger on.

China, Korea and some other Asian countries are now seeing imported cases from the western world, so really just seems this virus will keep ping ponging around as people travel.

I think the health officials in Canada probably want to do more, but the politicians are choosing to go slow which just prolongs everything really.

At this point Amazon should even be shut down, based on the photos of hundreds of people inches from one another on break, how long til there is a major outbreak within Amazon centers?

I do have one order coming tomorrow, I will let them set it outside the door, and then kick it into the closest and let is sit for a few days before touching it.

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I wonder if banks are seeing an uptick on cash being taken out they don't like?

I got another email from the bank explaining how money is safe, how you will be able to access money through electronic means, they are not at risk of failing and deposits are insured up to the limit.

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Not sure if this is useful to you:
https://globalnews.ca/news/6703203/r...s-coronavirus/

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That is just for BC Housing affordable and subsidized units, we are not in such a unit.

"BC Housing is putting in place a temporary moratorium on eviction of tenants in subsidized and affordable housing."

Although it looks like they have something in the works for regular renters and will be released next week so that is something positive possibly, have to wait and see what they come up with.

"“All options are on the table,” Housing Minister Selina Robinson said. “We are working on ways to ensure people do not lose their homes and are not evicted because of this crisis. These are very urgent concerns for people and we will have more to say in the coming days.”

The measures are set to be unveiled next week."

I will wait and see what they unveil next week.

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Ah ok. Sorry, I should have read more closely :(

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Spain, France and Italy are pretty locked down. The UK not so much, although they have moved to shutting bars/pubs/restaurants/gyms now. However the problem isn't going to improve, UK pubs are having a super busy night tonight as everyone is like "last chance to drink" - including folk who probably haven't been the pub in weeks. The other issue is people are now having house parties to compensate.

Theres a very clear split in the UK between those that want to contain the spread, and those that are like "its coming, it can't be avoided, lets just crack on". So whilst i haven't been the gym since it was announced on Monday (longest time away from the gym since October), when I used their car park to do some food shopping as i didn't fancy using the supermarket car park, a quick look through the window and it was as busy as normal.

I think part of the hesitance of the UK to lock down is the lack of police force, a general lack of respect for the police and the fact that there is a huge worry of people moving the virus into more rural areas where lockdowns can't be policed and they don't have the infrastructure for a health crisis. (a lot of people are going to caravan parks, or going off in their camper vans to "self isolate").

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Gazza being one of them a few days ago in a rough part of M/CR..now there's a guy who shouldn't be in a boozer.

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I have posted before...everything that comes into this house is wiped down with a bleach/water solution. Not only do I bleach the box...I bleach the contents too. I have groceries being delivered tomorrow...everything will get the same treatment.

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I wear gloves and wipe down the outside with lysol wipe, then open and dump everything out and toss the box into a trash box.

I am trying to stay at home as much as possible, did have to venture into the dollar store for some food items today, in and out as quick as I could. People though refuse to stay a distance for some reason, but its mostly just the very poor out and about, people who can't stock up in large amounts like us, we have to buy as we have the ability to.

I'd order online if I could though. But then if its sent Canada Post or Purolator it requires going out and picking it up as neither will deliver to the door in this area.

When I do go out, I spray down all the railings in the hallway of the building with Lysol and clean, do the same in the elevator. The cleaning company they use has suspended operations so currently nobody cleaning the building and things are getting a little grubby looking. Not a wealthy strata with concierge and such.

Also limiting the dog going on walks, I know she can't get it, but I have seen some reports indicate dog could potentially pick up the virus on paws, fur, nose and such. Still taking her out briefly, but she doesn't understand why we are spending so much time indoors.

There was a heated debate on a local forum last night about dogs being walked downtown, downside to density is condos have no yard, dogs still need to go out. Charlee will use a pad on the balcony so that helps minimize our trips outside, but not all dogs are trained for pads, and big dogs usually wont use them.

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77 new cases in BC, almost double yesterdays new cases, total now 348.

Hospitalizations are up, 22 hospitalized with 10 in ICU.

6 people have recovered.

17,912 tests have been performed in BC as of today.

Critical care beds are at 68.1% capacity as of today. (system wide hospital capacity is at 78%, normal average is 103%, largely due to elective procedures being cancelled.)

Province will punish anyone caught misappropriating medical supplies from the healthcare system.

All restaurants in BC have been ordered to only provide take out and delivery, no dining allowed.

Dr. Henry has asked people to call out those not abiding by the recommendations put forward.

Province is not yet at a point they feel a California style shelter in place is needed.


Odd how government's wait until the cases climb to crazy numbers before doing anything hard core, think they would do it now to prevent massive increases.

Some of the grocery stores are so overwhelmed with orders they have started cancelling orders, and other who do get their orders only get a fraction of what they ordered due to stock issues.

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https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/1962...likely-impact/

here you go.

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or the WHO could have recommended travel restrictions at the outset, which it argued were not required, and it wouldn't have spread all over the world.

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WHO seems to have been very political more than anything, I don't know if I trust them at this point.

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As I was the "earlier poster" ..........from:-
https://www.bcpharmacy.ca/news/bc-ph...id-19-outbreak

Read that as you will. I take it to mean that a pharmacist could provide medication to person who has been taking it but whose prescription has now come to the end of the number of refills prescribed.

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Doctor finally faxed over the prescription.

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Great news!!

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Costco has done the logical thing.

https://www.vicnews.com/news/costco-...-toilet-paper/


Save On Foods President made a video today pleading for people to stop panic buying and shop as they normally would and asking anyone who can shop in store to do so, and leave the delivery service for seniors and disabled. They have been completely overwhelmed the last few weeks, can take 1+ week to get a delivery slot. Its been insane.

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One problem with modelling is that you need to make assumptions to enable the algorithms to behave as they would in actual practice and additionally you need to tie the model down to measured data.
When I was modelling I was often asked 'what's the answer?'. To which I'd reply 'What answer would you like?'
As there haven't been that many pandemics of this seriousness, any model will be making certain guesses and the Imperial predictions should be viewed through this lens.

We can all comment with hindsight, but the WHO is condemned if it does and condemned if it doesn't, like all organisations charged with making difficult decisions, they get it wrong sometimes.
Yes, this pandemic might have been slowed down, but shit happens, people defy restrictions and you have only to look at images of crowded Florida beaches to understand that. I suspect that it would still have escaped, perhaps more slowly.

The question you could ask is: "If the virus had been contained for a month or two, would our leaders have reacted any differently?" I suspect not.

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I feel bad for the homeless. With everything closing up, they are having trouble finding places to go during the day, use the bathroom and such.

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London Drugs CEO is confused about the toilet paper hoarding. He also notes they are seeing a huge increase in credit card use, but unsure if its because people are afraid to touch cash or if people are resorting to credit card because they lack cash.

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Regina city council voted to take measures of their own, independent of the rules the Province just declared. These include limiting gatherings to 5 people or less instead of 25, and closure of a variety of retail stores.
https://leaderpost.com/news/local-ne...-e31be37712f7/

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I appreciate that I am not an expert but it seems to me that, if you wish to prevent anything from spreading, you keep it in one place.

The comments that have been made appear to suggest that stopping people travelling from China would have caused economic issues. That was a bad call and one that I accept is easier with hindsight but is one that, in light of the fatal consequences, should have been made as soon as cases that arose from travel were identified as such.

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You are of course absolutely correct. If you have an illness and recognise that it will likely become a pandemic then it makes sense to cauterise the infection and restrict contact, travel, etc.
The problem arises after you've made such orders more than once and no pandemic occurs.
One side will congratulate the decision making on having done it's job, whereas the other side will condemn the decision for having caused difficulties for no good reason.
Pressure then arises to defer subsequent decision making longer to ensure the virulancy warrants it and of course this ensures that it'll be too late.
Even China whose actions, following initial failure, have been shown to have been draconian but effective was subject to these same pressures and sought to balance containment and economics. They got it wrong, and we saw country after country getting it wrong as well even though the Chinese experience was there for all to see.

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55% approval for Trump’s handling of Coronavirus. Bet that doesn’t include the facepalming Dr Fauci.