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Jingsamichty Mar 19th 2020 10:14 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Self-isolation perhaps isn't so bad. My daughter just informed me that North Korea only had a single case of coronavirus and they shot him. Containment complete. ;)


Former Lancastrian Mar 19th 2020 10:22 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Would it be bad form say if your wife is spending a week in Mexico with her girlfriends and is due home on Saturday that you suggest she self isolates for 14 days somewhere else?

BristolUK Mar 19th 2020 10:39 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12823151)
Hi Bristol
I am not sure how that last comment has relevance to be honest. I'm surprised that it was you that said that.

Hi there. Nice to see you appearing more than the once :thumbup:

Yes, to everything you said. The mention of the fee wasn't a dig, it was strictly in the context of Jsmth's situation with their doc apparently insisting in a face to face appointment - in three weeks time, despite their doc having cancelled two appointments already and the renewal script needed in a week.
J expressed a wish to see such things done by phone and I mentioned that our province has just announced such a procedure - and for more than a prescription renewal.

Do you remember you once referred to the practice of some docs where after a referral to a specialist, instead of the specialist doing a normal follow up, the patient's regular doc would re-refer to the specialist because the fee for a referral was higher than for a regular follow up?

With that in mind (and probably a little bit of my own doc happy to have double appointments in one time slot :nod:) I was thinking that his doc - if paid by the 'fee per consult' method - might still want face to face even if telephone consult was allowed.

So it was specific to J's situation with his doc. Maybe I should have put it differently. :unsure:

Jerseygirl Mar 19th 2020 11:50 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 12823146)
Looks like my place of work is closing, I have had 3 shift change phone calls today, the last one said we are probably closing the stores for now.

Called Pet smart to see if puppy school is still starting on Sunday and got a yes it is. I was surprised at that.

sorry your place of work is closing. :(

my little Pom is due for a haircut but I’m not going to Pets Mart...I’m staying home. Goodness knows what she will look like in a few months time.

Jerseygirl Mar 19th 2020 12:12 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
This morning we were up at 5 and went down to our condo, just a 20 min ride away, to bring back food and supplies that were there. We are staying out of downtown and I wanted to get them before the rate of infections gets too bad. On the way back we stopped at Rabba. It was 6.30 so I thought it would be quiet. Wearing gloves we bought a loaf and milk. The shelves were full...just like a normal day. Plenty of loo rolls too.

CanadaJimmy Mar 19th 2020 1:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Eurovision Song Contest has been cancelled, for the first time in 64 years :(

dbd33 Mar 19th 2020 1:50 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 12823349)
Eurovision Song Contest has been cancelled, for the first time in 64 years :(

Oh no!

caretaker Mar 19th 2020 2:07 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I renewed my prescription yesterday and they wouldn't let me pick it up, delivery only for the time being. Also yesterday at No Frills and Wholesale Club the fresh meat and poultry sections were heavily depleted (but there was still some) as well as noticeable holes in the canned goods shelves, also at Giant Tiger (though they don't have much anyway). It must be from people filling up their freezers, and my take on this is fine, some people who live out of town, people who have families and want to make sure they're ok in case they want to or have to stay home. The supply chain will catch up soon because the freezers can only hold so much, and people can only eat so fast. I'm confident enough that I haven't bothered plugging in the freezer in the basement, and didn't bother going out early to take advantage of the new senior's shopping hour at the grocery stores that are doing it. I want to get gas while it's still 73.9, a new bottle of Lemon Hart and a case of Diet Coke, some brown sugar and some baker's chocolate, a dozen tortillas and some chicken thighs if I see them. Maybe a big can of tomato juice in case I need Bloody Marys, then I'll be prepared. It's hard enough for me to rotate the stuff in the freezing compartment in the fridge so I'm not wasting space up there, but I have considered getting a little energy-efficient freezer at some point. I helped a friend bring a little Danby home about a month ago and it seemed like a nice unit for about $220 on sale. I think freezers like that will be out of stock for awhile too.

Danny B Mar 19th 2020 2:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12823394)
I renewed my prescription yesterday and they wouldn't let me pick it up, delivery only for the time being. Also yesterday at No Frills and Wholesale Club the fresh meat and poultry sections were heavily depleted (but there was still some) as well as noticeable holes in the canned goods shelves, also at Giant Tiger (though they don't have much anyway). It must be from people filling up their freezers, and my take on this is fine, some people who live out of town, people who have families and want to make sure they're ok in case they want to or have to stay home. The supply chain will catch up soon because the freezers can only hold so much, and people can only eat so fast. I'm confident enough that I haven't bothered plugging in the freezer in the basement, and didn't bother going out early to take advantage of the new senior's shopping hour at the grocery stores that are doing it. I want to get gas while it's still 73.9, a new bottle of Lemon Hart and a case of Diet Coke, some brown sugar and some baker's chocolate, a dozen tortillas and some chicken thighs if I see them. Maybe a big can of tomato juice in case I need Bloody Marys, then I'll be prepared. It's hard enough for me to rotate the stuff in the freezing compartment in the fridge so I'm not wasting space up there, but I have considered getting a little energy-efficient freezer at some point. I helped a friend bring a little Danby home about a month ago and it seemed like a nice unit for about $220 on sale. I think freezers like that will be out of stock for awhile too.

Are you stocked up on the flower? BC stores haven't shut down yet.

caretaker Mar 19th 2020 2:38 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12823413)
Are you stocked up on the flower? BC stores haven't shut down yet.

Oh yeah, flower, gummies, shatter, good for months, but I have no fear of a shortage.

Jerseygirl Mar 19th 2020 2:39 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12823374)
Oh no!

I am besides myself...as my dear MIL used to say. How will we cope with the loss?

Danny B Mar 19th 2020 2:40 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 12823154)
The leaders of tomorrow. :thumbdown: Our 2 kids are 19 and 23 and I can't imagine them being so callous about this.

Horrifying isn't it.
"The more one thinks, the more one feels the hopeless immensity of man's ignorance.” Charles Darwin

Danny B Mar 19th 2020 3:01 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Has anyone in Canada noticed a price increase in bog roll yet?

https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak..._is_increased/


macadian Mar 19th 2020 3:02 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12823418)
I am besides myself...as my dear MIL used to say. How will we cope with the loss?

every cloud had a silver lining.....;)

Piff Poff Mar 19th 2020 3:08 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12823155)
Sorry to hear that Piff - hopefully you can get EI to help defray the loss of income. My son's place of work has closed, he's been laid off for the duration - potentially will have lost his job, if they don't reopen.

I have been promised a job when they re open (if they do close, the owner is on her way back from Mexico so her daughter is trying to organise things, we will find out after the weekend what route they are taking).


Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12823295)
sorry your place of work is closing. :(

my little Pom is due for a haircut but I’m not going to Pets Mart...I’m staying home. Goodness knows what she will look like in a few months time.

You will have to get the shears out and do her yourself lol. I have had to give Nushka 2 baths already this week due to poopageddon, thankfully she is still little and also very good. She needs a nail trim, I shall get the vets to do that tomorrow as I am too scared to do that (black nails, can't see the vein).

Piff Poff Mar 19th 2020 3:12 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I am off to get water, milk and contact lense solution today, water because our tap water is well water and despite a treatment system is pretty smelly so unpalatable. Milk because we need tea and contact solution for my eye health. I tend to keep our food stocks low as there are only two of us, hopefully if we do end up quarantined I'll still be able to feed us.

Jerseygirl Mar 19th 2020 3:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 12823435)
I have been promised a job when they re open (if they do close, the owner is on her way back from Mexico so her daughter is trying to organise things, we will find out after the weekend what route they are taking).



You will have to get the shears out and do her yourself lol. I have had to give Nushka 2 baths already this week due to poopageddon, thankfully she is still little and also very good. She needs a nail trim, I shall get the vets to do that tomorrow as I am too scared to do that (black nails, can't see the vein).

Well that’s good news. :thumbsup:

I’ve just ordered a hair trimmer from Amazon. I will do Ellie and then hubby needs a trim. :sneaky::D

ellie has black claws...I use one of those claw grinders. Works quite well, as I too am worried about hurting her with the clippers.

caretaker Mar 19th 2020 3:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
There are a few nice fat red squirrels in the tree out front, and if times get tough I can just get the catapult out of my fishing pack.

BristolUK Mar 19th 2020 3:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12823394)
I renewed my prescription yesterday and they wouldn't let me pick it up, delivery only for the time being.

Sounds like a good idea. Not many cases here but as time goes buy I'll feel less like collecting them. Or rather I'll feel less like sending my stepson to collect them.

Bus drivers here are no longer giving the transfer slips if one needs to change buses and they will not be punching the punch cards either. You just show your card and the 'honour' system means you will make a hole yourself. :nod:

I helped a friend bring a little Danby home about a month ago and it seemed like a nice unit for about $220 on sale.
I bought a Danby for extra space from Home Depot in our first year here. Paid for it, including delivery and then cycled home, about 20 minutes away.

It was in the house before I was. :lol:


Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12823430)
Has anyone in Canada noticed a price increase in bog roll yet?

Normal prices in Giant Tiger last week and Superstore this week. My email from Galen Weston said Loblaws/Superstore prices would remain unchanged.

That said, their prices vary so much - usually in a good way - how could you tell?

BristolUK Mar 19th 2020 3:51 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12823439)
..I use one of those claw grinders. Works quite well

They work very well for small calluses too. :nod:


Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12823440)
There are a few nice fat red squirrels in the tree out front, and if times get tough I can just get the catapult out of my fishing pack.

I trust you just stun them, otherwise how could they tell you where their supply of nuts is hidden?

dbd33 Mar 19th 2020 3:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12823394)
I renewed my prescription yesterday and they wouldn't let me pick it up, delivery only for the time being. Also yesterday at No Frills and Wholesale Club the fresh meat and poultry sections were heavily depleted (but there was still some) as well as noticeable holes in the canned goods shelves, also at Giant Tiger (though they don't have much anyway). It must be from people filling up their freezers, and my take on this is fine, some people who live out of town, people who have families and want to make sure they're ok in case they want to or have to stay home. The supply chain will catch up soon because the freezers can only hold so much, and people can only eat so fast. I'm confident enough that I haven't bothered plugging in the freezer in the basement, and didn't bother going out early to take advantage of the new senior's shopping hour at the grocery stores that are doing it. I want to get gas while it's still 73.9, a new bottle of Lemon Hart and a case of Diet Coke, some brown sugar and some baker's chocolate, a dozen tortillas and some chicken thighs if I see them. Maybe a big can of tomato juice in case I need Bloody Marys, then I'll be prepared. It's hard enough for me to rotate the stuff in the freezing compartment in the fridge so I'm not wasting space up there, but I have considered getting a little energy-efficient freezer at some point. I helped a friend bring a little Danby home about a month ago and it seemed like a nice unit for about $220 on sale. I think freezers like that will be out of stock for awhile too.

I have a Danby chest freezer, it came from the scratched and dented section (like all my appliances). The scratched side is against a wall. It was $90 so less than the cost of one tray of contents. I've had it about 15 years so I think it's been value for money. Danby is a local firm with a good reputation as an employer so, really, it's just the ideal appliance for this socialist to use to chill the champagne.


caretaker Mar 19th 2020 4:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12823458)
I have a Danby chest freezer, it came from the scratched and dented section (like all my appliances). The scratched side is against a wall. It was $90 so less than the cost of one tray of contents. I've had it about 15 years so I think it's been value for money. Danby is a local firm with a good reputation as an employer so, really, it's just the ideal appliance for this socialist to use to chill the champagne.

Bottle of Martini going in the fridge right now, and you're responsible. :mad: Comrade.

Siouxie Mar 19th 2020 5:02 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Interesting thread from an Italy perspective - on the stages the country went through (as are others) - indifference to OMG.
https://www.boredpanda.com/coronavir...ason-yanowitz/

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 19th 2020 5:15 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12823250)
Would it be bad form say if your wife is spending a week in Mexico with her girlfriends and is due home on Saturday that you suggest she self isolates for 14 days somewhere else?

Well BC government does suggest that if at all possible, to self isolate away from others, but of course for most families this wont be possible, so next best thing is for the person to isolate to one room and preferably have their own bathroom to limit contact with others in the family, but if say living in apartment with one room and one bathroom, well not much one can do there, and if a family member gets it and living in an apartment chances are everyone in the apartment will, hard to isolate when living in apartments. Density isn't good in a pandemic.


scrubbedexpat091 Mar 19th 2020 5:32 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12823430)
Has anyone in Canada noticed a price increase in bog roll yet?

https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak..._is_increased/

Nothing extreme, just selling at normal price vs sale prices so it appears they are at first at some stores, but they are simply just selling for the non-sale price, I think most people generally buy when on sale. No Frill has a big pack go on sale often for 9.99, but normal price is 19.99 and that is the price they are selling it at, coke and pepsi 6 packs generally always on sale for 6.99 but now no sale its 8.99.

So I guess in theory the prices technically haven't gone up since its the regular listed price and they can say the lower price is promotional.

It is surprising how high normal price is on some products that seem to be perpetually on sale at stores.

In parts of the US they are cracking down hard, price increases during states of emergencies is illegal, and arrests and charges are being made, but not sure how it works in Canada.

Professional stores know not to price gouge, but these people on craigslist in the US trying to make a quick buck don't seem to understand that price gouging in a state of emergency is a criminal act in many states.


scrubbedexpat091 Mar 19th 2020 5:39 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12823499)
Interesting thread from an Italy perspective - on the stages the country went through (as are others) - indifference to OMG.
https://www.boredpanda.com/coronavir...ason-yanowitz/

And Canadian authorities should learn from Italy and close the place down now rather than wait and see.

I am surprised with more than doubling of cases in BC in a week, that they haven't shut the place down, its clear people wont listen, and some businesses are putting money above health of their employees and society.

Grocery stores need to remain open as do other essential businessmen, but majority of business needs to be shut down. I would also like to see transit shut down, transit use here is so high and many have no cars that shutting it down will force people to stay in and force companies to close as employees will have trouble getting to work, also shut down car sharing, and limit taxis and uber to essential travel only and list locations these services can drop off and pick up.

Will suck but seems the only way to stop the spread is for people not to be out and about. Airlines need to be shut down as well at this point, people have have plenty of warnings and time to return home, if they have chosen not to return home by now, that is their problem, shouldn't have ignored the warning to return home and not travel for the last 2 weeks.








Jerseygirl Mar 19th 2020 5:43 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12823512)
And Canadian authorities should learn from Italy and close the place down now rather than wait and see.

I am surprised with more than doubling of cases in BC in a week, that they haven't shut the place down, its clear people wont listen, and some businesses are putting money above health of their employees and society.

Grocery stores need to remain open as do other essential businessmen, but majority of business needs to be shut down. I would also like to see transit shut down, transit use here is so high and many have no cars that shutting it down will force people to stay in and force companies to close as employees will have trouble getting to work, also shut down car sharing, and limit taxis and uber to essential travel only and list locations these services can drop off and pick up.

Will suck but seems the only way to stop the spread is for people not to be out and about. Airlines need to be shut down as well at this point, people have have plenty of warnings and time to return home, if they have chosen not to return home by now, that is their problem, shouldn't have ignored the warning to return home and not travel for the last 2 weeks.

agreed J...a 30 day immediate shut down. Also the US and UK should do the same.

Almost Canadian Mar 19th 2020 6:11 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12823514)
agreed J...a 30 day immediate shut down. Also the US and UK should do the same.

Are people only contagious for 30 days after they themselves have contracted it?

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 19th 2020 6:18 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Canadian Tire is closing its non-essential banners Mark’s/L’Équipeur, SportChek, Sports Experts, Atmosphere, Party City, Pro Hockey Life, National Sports, and PartSource stores. Canadian Tire stores will remain open with reduced hours. Effective tomorrow.

Sunwing announced this today:"If a northbound flight is operating from their destination, they should make their way to the departure airport and present themselves to the Sunwing Airlines check in counter. If space remains prior to departure at the closure of check in, any available seats will be offered to Canadians or Canadian permanent residents free of charge. Given the unprecedented situation, the focus of our company and destination team remains on the repatriation of our customers. We therefore ask to please refrain from calling us since availability can only be confirmed at the airport ahead of the closure of check in for each flight service.

We expect to have all Sunwing customers home by Monday March 23. At our current estimate, Sunwing will be operating almost 400 flights and spending more than $26 million to bring these Canadians home safely, at no extra cost to the customer."

Sunwing is offering available seats on its repatriation flights from southern destinations to stranded Canadians, free of charge – including for non-Sunwing customers.




magnumpi Mar 19th 2020 6:27 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Ontario announcement that no one will be evicted during this time, any ongoing evictions will be halted.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 19th 2020 6:29 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Things seem to be improving in Wuhan. But getting worse elsewhere, does seem China level shut down seems to work even if it takes a couple months.

Italy has surpassed China in deaths according to the TV news.

Almost Canadian Mar 19th 2020 6:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12823551)
Ontario announcement that no one will be evicted during this time, any ongoing evictions will be halted.

It's difficult, if not impossible, to evict someone if the Courts are closed!

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 19th 2020 6:44 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Curve as of today for Canada. From Global News on facebook. One problem with being mostly stuck inside in a small apartment is everything on TV, and the internet is mostly just COVID 24/7 so hard to get away from it all. Don't believe everything politicians say on TV, RE the earlier poster who said pharmacies don't need a prescription, according to the pharmacists this is not true.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...9f20952303.png

Jerseygirl Mar 19th 2020 6:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12823538)
Are people only contagious for 30 days after they themselves have contracted it?

i think the 30 day period allows several days for symptoms to appear, sickness/recovery..then 14 days isolation.

Piff Poff Mar 19th 2020 7:12 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12823439)
Well that’s good news. :thumbsup:

I’ve just ordered a hair trimmer from Amazon. I will do Ellie and then hubby needs a trim. :sneaky::D

ellie has black claws...I use one of those claw grinders. Works quite well, as I too am worried about hurting her with the clippers.

I think I'll pick a grinder and a trimmer from Pet smart when I'm in there for Puppy Training (still can't believe it's not been cancelled, not sure I'd be going if I hadn't paid already). I could always use OH's clipper on her lol If you do clip Ellie you should post pics so we can judge lol

Piff Poff Mar 19th 2020 7:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
OH's place of work is asking for volunteers to go in 2 months EI. OH asked what was going on as he was hearing rumours and was told, it's nothing for you to worry about, it doesn't apply to you. We will see, everything seems to be on a hourly change right now.

CanadaJimmy Mar 19th 2020 8:01 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell has released a video on the Coronavirus, quite informative:

Almost Canadian Mar 19th 2020 8:13 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12823576)
i think the 30 day period allows several days for symptoms to appear, sickness/recovery..then 14 days isolation.

I understand that but, if they remain contagious, that is simply delaying the passing on, isn't it?

If people are only contagious for a period, IMHO, the entire country should be shut down for that period and we can all then return to normal.

caretaker Mar 19th 2020 8:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 12823595)
I think I'll pick a grinder and a trimmer from Pet smart when I'm in there for Puppy Training (still can't believe it's not been cancelled, not sure I'd be going if I hadn't paid already). I could always use OH's clipper on her lol If you do clip Ellie you should post pics so we can judge lol

I always had Quik-Stop handy when clipping nails, and accidents do happen. There's nothing wrong with leaving a bit extra and just doing it more often.
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Jerseygirl Mar 19th 2020 8:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12823640)
I understand that but, if they remain contagious, that is simply delaying the passing on, isn't it?

If people are only contagious for a period, IMHO, the entire country should be shut down for that period and we can all then return to normal.

after the 14 day isolation period they can no longer pass it on/are infection.

that’s why a 30 day shut down period is being recommended


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