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mrken30 Aug 24th 2020 6:08 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Interesting tool for estimating risk

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...-bus-ride-cvd/

Danny B Aug 24th 2020 5:39 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Regarding Schools reopening around the world, Chris Whitty seems to think that the slight increase in transmission will not necessarily come from kids passing to their parents, but from adults passing it to other adults as a result of the schools being open.
For example, parents meeting at the school gates at drop off time, teachers talking to parents etc.

It's worth a watch.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53875410

Siouxie Aug 24th 2020 6:08 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12901068)
Interesting tool for estimating risk

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...-bus-ride-cvd/

I can't read it or use the tool without creating an account - but can with the cached version

The original tool 'workings' can be found here for any that want to look deeper or wants to download a copy :)

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 24th 2020 6:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Apparently there is one study that suggests kids under 5 can be highly infectious to other people.

""Children ages zero to five can be "highly infectious to other people. It turns out they have a thousand times more virus in their nose than you need to infect, so they're very, very contagious," said William Haseltine, a former professor at Harvard Medical School during an interview Monday on CNN."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/healt...ess/index.html










scrubbedexpat091 Aug 24th 2020 6:26 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12901068)
Interesting tool for estimating risk

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/s...-bus-ride-cvd/

Explains why the indoor parties young people are having are adding to higher cases here in BC, seems indoor gatherings is about as high risk as you can get.

I do wonder what they consider as Well-ventilated public transit system though, not sure I would want to be crammed into a subway car or bus because I don't consider what the typical bus or train has here as being well ventilated but masks are not largely required on public transit so that should help with reduce risk.

Danny B Aug 24th 2020 7:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12901252)
Apparently there is one study that suggests kids under 5 can be highly infectious to other people.

""Children ages zero to five can be "highly infectious to other people. It turns out they have a thousand times more virus in their nose than you need to infect, so they're very, very contagious," said William Haseltine, a former professor at Harvard Medical School during an interview Monday on CNN."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/healt...ess/index.html

LOL.
This is completely contradictory to what the UK Chief Medical advisor says in the video at the 1 min mark. No wonder people are confused.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 24th 2020 7:19 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12901266)
LOL.
This is completely contradictory to what the UK Chief Medical advisor says in the video at the 1 min mark. No wonder people are confused.

Oh for sure, I can't on a good day keep track of it all, one country says this, another that, one study say this, another that, and I am certain in plays a role in how people react.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 24th 2020 8:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Made in Canada vaccine effort slowed by delays.


caretaker Aug 24th 2020 11:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12901296)

Well that's good to know; a decent guess at a 1 year timeline for a proven home grown vaccine is better than a dozen rumours.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 24th 2020 11:59 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
BC has hit an all time high for active cases which now sit at 913 with 269 new cases over the weekend, hospitalizations up 5 for a total of 18 patients, 1 additional death. Number in hospital is the highest its been in 2 months.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...t-24-1.5698223

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 25th 2020 6:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
The man in Victoria that was fined over the weekend, well he spoke to the media.

According to neighbors he throws parties fairly often, of course the man say's he did nothing wrong.

Article and video here.

Danny B Aug 25th 2020 7:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12901596)
The man in Victoria that was fined over the weekend, well he spoke to the media.

According to neighbors he throws parties fairly often, of course the man say's he did nothing wrong.

Article and video here.

Someone needs to make a remix of his interview :lol:


caretaker Aug 26th 2020 12:41 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Yesterday was a good day in Saskatchewan, no new cases.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...4fcae892b0.png

Siouxie Aug 26th 2020 5:19 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Talking of parties, an acquaintance of mine sent me a message.. telling me that as she has been in Canada for 50 years she is throwing a party (she lives 5 minutes away) - but that she wasn't inviting me due to 'my beliefs' -- she's talking about a post (on FB) that I 'liked' of the local regulation bylaws on social distancing and Canada's regulations on 'circle of 10' - which she feels are ridiculous and doesn't comply with - yet she is in her 70's with health issues and her husband has already been hospitalised twice this year for underlying health issues. She just doesn't get that in inviting 20+ of her 'closest friends' (all in their 70's) she is putting them at risk as well as herself and her husband.

In her message she sent a link to https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ails-1.5647198 and said "read this - it's proof that we are allowed to have a party with up to 50 people indoors - or up to 100 outdoors"'

AGH. another thick as sh** Covidiot who puts everyone at risk - both she and her husband go to many local stores / restaurants etc., without masking up (or dropping the mask a soon as they get in there, if they won't let them in without one)... she brags about it and procedes to post photos of it on FB, together with pictures of her meeting up with friends with no social distancing. There's no excuse for this type of behaviour - she's an educated woman, as is her husband.. they are choosing to ignore the regulations because they aren't convenient to them... they feel they can do what they like. It was the same when they were stuck in Spain - they were asked by the Police to stop exercising in a specific area - stopped several times for being outside the property when they shouldn't have been - and laughed it off and bragged how they 'gave them the slip and still went out and about when they wanted to'.
:banghead:

BristolUK Aug 26th 2020 5:38 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12901962)
In her message she sent a link to https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ails-1.5647198 and said "read this - it's proof that we are allowed to have a party with up to 50 people indoors - or up to 100 outdoors"

And of course you messaged back to point out the part that said "However, according to the plan, physical distancing remains a requirement for all people who are not from the same household or established social circle" and asked if she'd be following that :lol:

spouse of scouse Aug 26th 2020 6:06 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12901974)
And of course you messaged back to point out the part that said "However, according to the plan, physical distancing remains a requirement for all people who are not from the same household or established social circle" and asked if she'd be following that :lol:

You're a much nicer person than I am. I'd have written what you did (I have no idea of the current rules in Canada but I hope I would if I lived there!), and then added

I appreciate you not inviting me to your party, as my refusal may have offended you.
I sincerely hope that all your guests enjoy themselves and don't mind if some nice police officers attend the party and fine them all. I also hope that the fond memories your guests will undoubtedly have of your party are not too soured by contracting covid-19 and perhaps becoming very ill, being hospitalized, being ventilated, and dying.


BristolUK Aug 26th 2020 6:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12901989)
You're a much nicer person than I am. I'd have written what you did (I have no idea of the current rules in Canada but I hope I would if I lived there!), and then added

I appreciate you not inviting me to your party, as my refusal may have offended you.
I sincerely hope that all your guests enjoy themselves and don't mind if some nice police officers attend the party and fine them all. I also hope that the fond memories your guests will undoubtedly have of your party are not too soured by contracting covid-19 and perhaps becoming very ill, being hospitalized, being ventilated, and dying.

Or you coulld engage in a bit of swatting. :eek:


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...0b91cf1705.jpg

Siouxie Aug 26th 2020 6:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12901974)
And of course you messaged back to point out the part that said "However, according to the plan, physical distancing remains a requirement for all people who are not from the same household or established social circle" and asked if she'd be following that :lol:

I sent her the link to the official website with regards to the new regulations that came out on 13th August which requires social distancing of 6ft for all in any social situation with fines for non compliance.. 'apart from your circle of 10' (which she also doesn't understand, so I sent her the official website link for that too :p ) and said "I prefer to rely on the official regulations rather than fake news from news websites - hopefully you will be following the bylaws, keeping a social distance and don't get fined :) "

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 26th 2020 6:56 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12901827)
Yesterday was a good day in Saskatchewan, no new cases.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...4fcae892b0.png

I wish BC could follow that trend, but do suppose with a bigger population and likely more travel to/from BC from elsewhere, its not possible to get there anytime soon.

Danny B Aug 26th 2020 7:18 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12902011)
I wish BC could follow that trend, but do suppose with a bigger population and likely more travel to/from BC from elsewhere, its not possible to get there anytime soon.

When you see a graph like this, I think BC is doing pretty good for COVID deaths.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...230e192d3b.jpg

However, when you see a graph like this, we are doing pretty shit for drug overdose deaths :(
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...c1c339df28.jpg




scrubbedexpat091 Aug 26th 2020 7:40 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Yeah drug overdoses are way up. I've seen some mention because of COVID people are more likely to be doing drugs alone, and being alone while using increases your chance of death since nobody around to help.


Gozit Aug 26th 2020 10:46 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12902033)
Yeah drug overdoses are way up. I've seen some mention because of COVID people are more likely to be doing drugs alone, and being alone while using increases your chance of death since nobody around to help.

Yep, it's a victim of the "Covid priority" ... covid has taken priority affecting treatments for mental health and other crucial things. But it seems according to govt as long as covid cases are down people who die of other causes as a consequence of the continued lockdown and restrictions do not matter.

Siouxie Aug 26th 2020 11:12 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Gozit (Post 12902099)
Yep, it's a victim of the "Covid priority" ... covid has taken priority affecting treatments for mental health and other crucial things. But it seems according to govt as long as covid cases are down people who die of other causes as a consequence of the continued lockdown and restrictions do not matter.

I believe JS was referring to Drug Addict deaths, not necessarily suicides. The choice to indulge in illicit drugs can't be laid at the governments door, nor covids. You may choose to smoke weed to relax, others may choose to inject heroin or smoke crack - if they do too much or get a bad batch, death can result... covid or no covid.

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 26th 2020 11:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I was talking about illicit overdose deaths, some could very well be suicides but most are accidental in nature.

Mental health access is more difficult at the moment however, so there is probably a link as its possible people with addiction issues also don't have the same level of access to their usual supports. Variety of mental health service programs around BC are currently not happening, and they have been slow to move online, but then its possible many don't have reliable access to the internet as well, so going online doesn't necessarily help the lowest income groups or homeless.


scrubbedexpat091 Aug 26th 2020 11:28 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
A bit of an improvement, active cases is below 900 again sitting at 896.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7299926/b...navirus-cases/

caretaker Aug 26th 2020 11:46 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12902118)
I was talking about illicit overdose deaths, some could very well be suicides but most are accidental in nature.

I saw the new heroin dispenser machines on the news this morning; those should help a bit if there are enough of them in the right places. The registered addict scans his palm, and so many prescribed doses come out of the machine. They're going in pharmacies and supervised injection centres.

Nand Aug 27th 2020 12:22 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12901962)
Talking of parties, an acquaintance of mine sent me a message.. telling me that as she has been in Canada for 50 years she is throwing a party (she lives 5 minutes away) - but that she wasn't inviting me due to 'my beliefs' -- she's talking about a post (on FB) that I 'liked' of the local regulation bylaws on social distancing and Canada's regulations on 'circle of 10' - which she feels are ridiculous and doesn't comply with - yet she is in her 70's with health issues and her husband has already been hospitalised twice this year for underlying health issues. She just doesn't get that in inviting 20+ of her 'closest friends' (all in their 70's) she is putting them at risk as well as herself and her husband.

In her message she sent a link to https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ails-1.5647198 and said "read this - it's proof that we are allowed to have a party with up to 50 people indoors - or up to 100 outdoors"'

AGH. another thick as sh** Covidiot who puts everyone at risk - both she and her husband go to many local stores / restaurants etc., without masking up (or dropping the mask a soon as they get in there, if they won't let them in without one)... she brags about it and procedes to post photos of it on FB, together with pictures of her meeting up with friends with no social distancing. There's no excuse for this type of behaviour - she's an educated woman, as is her husband.. they are choosing to ignore the regulations because they aren't convenient to them... they feel they can do what they like. It was the same when they were stuck in Spain - they were asked by the Police to stop exercising in a specific area - stopped several times for being outside the property when they shouldn't have been - and laughed it off and bragged how they 'gave them the slip and still went out and about when they wanted to'.
:banghead:

Her and all her compadres should be put on a cruiseship sailing around and around until they get their minds back to normal IMO.

Nand Aug 27th 2020 12:33 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12902121)
I saw the new heroin dispenser machines on the news this morning; those should help a bit if there are enough of them in the right places. The registered addict scans his palm, and so many prescribed doses come out of the machine. They're going in pharmacies and supervised injection centres.

You're taking the P, right? It can't really be so.

caretaker Aug 27th 2020 12:39 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by tumbleweedly (Post 12902132)
You're taking the P, right? It can't really be so.

Yeah, I lied, it's really hydromorphone, and apparently has been working like a charm in Vancouver for some time already.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7295236/h...opioid-crisis/

BristolUK Aug 27th 2020 2:16 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Up to 30 Plymouth teenagers may have Covid-19 after Greek holiday

As many as 30 teenagers who took a holiday to the Greek island of Zante may have contracted coronavirus, health officials have said. At least 11 of a group of 18- and 19-year-olds in Plymouth have tested positive for Covid-19 and some had been for a night out in the Devon city since their return from their holiday.

Siouxie Aug 27th 2020 6:13 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
US Canada border remains closed (restricted) until 21st September

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...f9be04c586.jpg

Stumpylegs Aug 27th 2020 6:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12902476)
US Canada border remains closed (restricted) until 21st September

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...f9be04c586.jpg

Awaiting an announcement on international borders, surely they've got to extend, but techinically they run out on the 31st I believe.

Siouxie Aug 27th 2020 7:00 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Gozit (Post 12902099)
Yep, it's a victim of the "Covid priority" ... covid has taken priority affecting treatments for mental health and other crucial things. But it seems according to govt as long as covid cases are down people who die of other causes as a consequence of the continued lockdown and restrictions do not matter.

I presume you haven't seen these then
[QUOTE][/QUOTE
]https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/substance-use/helping-people-who-use-substances-covid-19.html


bats Aug 27th 2020 7:03 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
our local hospital has its first COVID inpatient. No idea if it's community spread or a traceable contact. Any other cases in the bigger hospitals or at home have been traceable. So far so good but we all worry about community infection from visitors , tourists from the GTA and other higher risk areas. This bug makes you feel your age!

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 27th 2020 11:41 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Result of Stats Canada survey on pandemic and its effects on persons with disabilities.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/dail...00827c-eng.htm

68 new cases in BC

906 active cases

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...g-27-1.5702820

bats Aug 28th 2020 2:03 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Yeah, it's pretty sucky having a dusability at this time, blind people and partially sighted can't see to distance themselves, or their service dog takes them too close, they get shouted at, nasty comments made to them.
Some with mobility problems have had home care reduced or taken away and are struggling to manage
Us deafies can't lipread masked people. Before the masks we didn't have the choice of chatty phone calls to keep in touch and have some human contact. Yesterday I was without my hearing gadgets so I couldn't even tell if anyone was talking to me. Fortunately the people that mattered were helpful.
Seniors are more isolated than ever and the lack of interaction has an awful effect on their mental health.
I know there are others on here with disabilities who could add to this list. I hope they do.

Siouxie Aug 28th 2020 6:00 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12902680)
Yeah, it's pretty sucky having a dusability at this time, blind people and partially sighted can't see to distance themselves, or their service dog takes them too close, they get shouted at, nasty comments made to them.
Some with mobility problems have had home care reduced or taken away and are struggling to manage
Us deafies can't lipread masked people. Before the masks we didn't have the choice of chatty phone calls to keep in touch and have some human contact. Yesterday I was without my hearing gadgets so I couldn't even tell if anyone was talking to me. Fortunately the people that mattered were helpful.
Seniors are more isolated than ever and the lack of interaction has an awful effect on their mental health.
I know there are others on here with disabilities who could add to this list. I hope they do.

Yes, it's difficult for me to wear a mask - so I don't go out or into stores... and because my main hearing aid broke and my other one is damaged I would struggle to hear anyone anyway because I would need to keep 6ft away - I was saving to purchase new hearing aids (I have to have them made, no picking one up off the shelf at Costco for me) and then Covid happened and my hearing aid place closed down for the duration. Isolating is an understatement - I have to rely on the written word for most interaction, it's somewhat limiting. :(

bats Aug 28th 2020 3:53 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12902714)
Yes, it's difficult for me to wear a mask - so I don't go out or into stores... and because my main hearing aid broke and my other one is damaged I would struggle to hear anyone anyway because I would need to keep 6ft away - I was saving to purchase new hearing aids (I have to have them made, no picking one up off the shelf at Costco for me) and then Covid happened and my hearing aid place closed down for the duration. Isolating is an understatement - I have to rely on the written word for most interaction, it's somewhat limiting. :(

7

it certainly is. I use an app called Live Transcribe which is pretty accurate and when it isn't it breaks the ice. Do you have to use a particular hearing aid place as some are open.

Siouxie Aug 28th 2020 5:26 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I thought these were interesting - you can select 'new cases' and see how many thousands there are worldwide - or break it down by country.
https://covid19.who.int/?gclid=EAIaI...SAAEgJrQvD_BwE
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

scrubbedexpat091 Aug 28th 2020 8:20 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
8 children in BC have had the inflammatory syndrome that has been linked to COVID.

7 workers at a worksite in SE BC have tested positive, 6 of the workers had recently arrived back in BC after visiting home in Alberta.

Serum testing shows immunity in the population is very low, around 1.5%.

Province is also finally breaking cases down more vs just reporting health authority, so better idea of where cases have been.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...c3d784dad3.jpg


https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...returning-home

Looks like for Interior Health where we are, central Okanagan has the most cases at 209, followed by Kamloops.at 53, and Vernon at 20, everywhere else has had under 10 cases.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7302954/c...tral-okanagan/



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