Gibraltar 2
#2117
Re: Gibraltar 2
Published by GBC News
Tuesday evening has seen another long queue at the frontier for motorbikes leaving Gibraltar to cross into Spain.
Images taken by GBC at around 6pm showed there were no cars in the queue at the time, although motorcyclists spanned the entire length of the loop.
Monday saw similar scenes when waiting times were reportedly up to ninety minutes. On Tuesday evening, GBC understands the bikes moved along faster, taking between twenty to thirty minutes to cross.
In answer to questions, the Government said the application of the Schengen Border Code to non-Gibraltarians is causing build ups at different times. However, it points out the successful negotiation of a treaty will resolve this all round.
I believe the Government is using it's Rose Tinted glasses yet again.
Do they not remember that the worst/longest queues we had were before Brexit when Gib along with the UK was part of the EU.
Tuesday evening has seen another long queue at the frontier for motorbikes leaving Gibraltar to cross into Spain.
Images taken by GBC at around 6pm showed there were no cars in the queue at the time, although motorcyclists spanned the entire length of the loop.
Monday saw similar scenes when waiting times were reportedly up to ninety minutes. On Tuesday evening, GBC understands the bikes moved along faster, taking between twenty to thirty minutes to cross.
In answer to questions, the Government said the application of the Schengen Border Code to non-Gibraltarians is causing build ups at different times. However, it points out the successful negotiation of a treaty will resolve this all round.
I believe the Government is using it's Rose Tinted glasses yet again.
Do they not remember that the worst/longest queues we had were before Brexit when Gib along with the UK was part of the EU.
Last edited by Fredbargate; Nov 22nd 2023 at 5:52 am.
#2118
Re: Gibraltar 2
Gibraltar has recorded 382 Spanish 'incursions' into British territorial waters this year. From Jan 1st to 16th Oct.
From numerous sources
From numerous sources
#2119
Re: Gibraltar 2
Published by GBC News
Tuesday evening has seen another long queue at the frontier for motorbikes leaving Gibraltar to cross into Spain.
Images taken by GBC at around 6pm showed there were no cars in the queue at the time, although motorcyclists spanned the entire length of the loop.
Monday saw similar scenes when waiting times were reportedly up to ninety minutes. On Tuesday evening, GBC understands the bikes moved along faster, taking between twenty to thirty minutes to cross.
In answer to questions, the Government said the application of the Schengen Border Code to non-Gibraltarians is causing build ups at different times. However, it points out the successful negotiation of a treaty will resolve this all round.
I believe the Government is using it's Rose Tinted glasses yet again.
Do they not remember that the worst/longest queues we had were before Brexit when Gib along with the UK was part of the EU.
Tuesday evening has seen another long queue at the frontier for motorbikes leaving Gibraltar to cross into Spain.
Images taken by GBC at around 6pm showed there were no cars in the queue at the time, although motorcyclists spanned the entire length of the loop.
Monday saw similar scenes when waiting times were reportedly up to ninety minutes. On Tuesday evening, GBC understands the bikes moved along faster, taking between twenty to thirty minutes to cross.
In answer to questions, the Government said the application of the Schengen Border Code to non-Gibraltarians is causing build ups at different times. However, it points out the successful negotiation of a treaty will resolve this all round.
I believe the Government is using it's Rose Tinted glasses yet again.
Do they not remember that the worst/longest queues we had were before Brexit when Gib along with the UK was part of the EU.
When it is, all controls on persons will be confined to the external border, and the internal land border between Gib and Spain will be open (ie to all intents and purposes non-existent).
I'm sure you've seen other internal Schengen borders with Spain at work in your travels. When crossing between Spain and Portugal, for example.
#2120
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Of course all these problems can be resolved simply by handing Gibraltar back to Spain and then Mr Bargate can live in one happy EU family
#2121
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Re: Gibraltar 2
It's not about having my head in the sand, it's about knowing the difference between facts, half truths and hearsay. If this was a real problem that affected multiple people through no fault of their own, there would be some official report of it and talks between the respective officials in Gib and Spain.
I also have a different experience to most people in the queue as my ID is different to the standard ID card but it's easily fixed by presenting the correct documents at the right time and by politely explaining why you are presenting these documents instead of being awkward and barking your perceived rights to the border official. I'm not suggesting this is what has happened, but I've seen people doing the same and wondering why they are given a hard time.
I also have a different experience to most people in the queue as my ID is different to the standard ID card but it's easily fixed by presenting the correct documents at the right time and by politely explaining why you are presenting these documents instead of being awkward and barking your perceived rights to the border official. I'm not suggesting this is what has happened, but I've seen people doing the same and wondering why they are given a hard time.
#2122
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Joined: Mar 2012
Location: Singapore to Surfers Paradise to... Tenerife... to Gran Canaria!
Posts: 1,627
Re: Gibraltar 2
In fact Spain goes above and beyond to help out British tourists. So much so in fact that if you look at the official statistics it appears they have never expelled a single UK citizen for overstaying for instance. And I'm sure there are absolutely TONS of those around...
#2123
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Re: Gibraltar 2
#2124
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Re: Gibraltar 2
Lets see what this new Argentinian leader does about the Maldives...
That might determine the "rocks" existence as brit or Spanish....
That might determine the "rocks" existence as brit or Spanish....
#2125
Re: Gibraltar 2
The UK files a complaint with Spain on each of these incursions.
#2126
Re: Gibraltar 2
Last edited by Fredbargate; Nov 23rd 2023 at 3:53 am.
#2127
Re: Gibraltar 2
After all the thousands of motorcyclists delayed at the frontier on Monday afternoon were predominately Spaniards returning home from their work in Gibraltar.
Yes this is JUST A GIBRALTAR THING!
#2129
Re: Gibraltar 2
11/22/23, 7:45 AM By Canarian Weekly
Brits travelling to the
Canary Islands have encountered long waits during passport checks, prompting concerns and complaints from UK holidaymakers who find themselves enduring extensive queues.
Last edited by Fredbargate; Nov 23rd 2023 at 10:13 am.
#2130
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Re: Gibraltar 2
The UK files a complaint with Spain on each of these incursions.