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Originally Posted by SanNico
Was there ever an update on the reason the geezers from you boozer were refused entry? I keep scanning the press and haven't seen anything tangible about this which is quite surprising as it surely would have fanned the flames in diplomatic circles.
In addition to my previous reply:-

Word on the street has it that Gib shops are experiencing an upsurge in pre christmas sales due mainly to locals shopping locally instead of in Spain.
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
In addition to my previous reply:-

Word on the street has it that Gib shops are experiencing an upsurge in pre christmas sales due mainly to locals shopping locally instead of in Spain.
The Spanish like visiting Gibraltar. They like the shops and it's a great change of scenery on their doorstep.

I've even seen Spanish school children and Mundo Senior day trips this year. I never thought I would see that.
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-determination

Another example of the Spanish view on the right to self determination
How is that the Spanish view?

I don't think anyone is going to force Gibraltar to join anyone. For economic reasons alone it will not want to be part of either Spain or the UK, and becoming a fully-independent country doesn't seem viable either. So the status quo ("overseas territory") will continue...
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
However with Cameron who knows who he will sell out.
Isn't it amazing how quickly things move now Cameron is back?

He could give a press conference after announcing the agreement outside Number 6 Covenant Place then go back inside humming like this:




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How is that the Spanish view?
I'm going to hazard a guess that Fred considers any news about any country in South America as the Spanish view, except for Brazil (maybe)...
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I'm going to hazard a guess that Fred considers any news about any country in South America as the Spanish view, except for Brazil (maybe)...
Generally they all have the Spanish mentality with the exception of Brazil
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EU TREATY: WILL SPAIN SPOIL THE CHRISTMAS PARTY?


Tuesday, December 5, 2023 - 10:59
That officials of the European Union have started to brief against Spain is an indication of just how fed up everybody else is with the Gibraltar treaty negotiations. Indeed, the suggestion is that far from showing flexibility or generosity,

Madrid is displaying a degree of stubbornness and a lack of realism which is making the conclusion of an already complex treaty even harder.
TREATY
The irony is that Spain herself is to blame for the existing state of affairs. It was Madrid which insisted first that Gibraltar not form part of the UK treaty and second that no future relationship deal could be reached without Spain’s consent.
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Excepting residents of Gibraltar, I wonder just how many Brits or Spaniards could care less?
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Originally Posted by Fred James
Excepting residents of Gibraltar, I wonder just how many Brits or Spaniards could care less?
Not many
Most display the I'm allright Jack attitude

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
Generally they all have the Spanish mentality with the exception of Brazil
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Out of interest, where do the rest of us on this board go to apply for this pass to post the kind of stuff you do?

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Out of interest, where do the rest of us on this board go to apply for this pass to post the kind of stuff you do?
Try your conscience with a willingness to post the truth and not fabrications
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GIBRALTAR IS RIGHT TO REACH OUT TO MOROCCO

Thursday, December 7, 2023 - 10:57

It is said that only Madrid’s neighbours know the real Spain and are not fooled by the political spin and the smokescreens. In this context, both Morocco and Gibraltar have been shaped over decades into experts on the character, ambitions and predatory designs of the Spanish state.



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That is why the decision of the Government to take up a notch our relationship with our southern neighbour must be seen as a welcome development. It is a good thing that there is now a Gibraltar Minister with direct responsibility in this regard

http://www.gibraltarpanorama.gi/181115

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
Try your conscience with a willingness to post the truth and not fabrications
It's as absurd to claim that all Spanish-speaking countries have the same mentality as it would be to claim all English-speaking countries have the same mentality. You won't even find the same mentality within Spain let alone between Spanish-speaking countries. If you knew anything about your sworn enemy you'd know that.

Originally Posted by Fredbargate
The irony is that Spain herself is to blame for the existing state of affairs. It was Madrid which insisted first that Gibraltar not form part of the UK treaty and second that no future relationship deal could be reached without Spain’s consent.
I really doubt that if Spain were removed from the equation, any other EU or Schengen country would allow the airport border control to be done by Gibraltar or UK border guards either.
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It's as absurd to claim that all Spanish-speaking countries have the same mentality.
Brazil says that it is deploying troops along its border with Venezuela after the Venezuelan government announced plans to incorporate an area controlled by Guyana into its territory.
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It's as absurd to claim that all Spanish-speaking countries have the same mentality as it would be to claim all English-speaking countries have the same mentality. You won't even find the same mentality within Spain let alone between Spanish-speaking countries. If you knew anything about your sworn enemy you'd know that..
Argentina springs to mind and even more so looking at that lunatic that they have just voted into power.
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