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Old Sep 9th 2009 | 8:05 am
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But who is appointing a 'World Champion'?

I do agree that to measure a countries ratings among any given sport on a global scale than all countries should be allowed to compete.

Originally Posted by R I C H
I think you've missed the point - if you're going to appoint a 'World Champion', it surely makes sense to allow the rest of the world compete. The NFL (and other N.American sports) doesn't exactly stand up to scrutiny when compared to true world championships.
 
Old Sep 9th 2009 | 8:07 am
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Probably one of the dumbest statements ive ever read on here. Not sure if you realize it or not but ALL sports were invented at one time or another? Just because football(what we call soccer) was invented before the North American version of football doesnt mean its an invalid sport. Would love to see all of you all line up with Ray Lewis and see how long that talk lasts.

Anyways not trying to start up an arguement but I find people fear and try to make fun of what they dont understand. There are just completely different sports played in North America as there are in Europe, simple as that. Wouldnt discredit either, there just different.

And anybody who knows or pays much attention to sports would have the mind not to discredit one or the other.
North American sports don't scare me and I do understand them. They just suck.

this post is the best description of north american sports (even if I do say so myself)
 
Old Sep 9th 2009 | 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea
But who is appointing a 'World Champion'?
It's self-proclaimed within the sports, which is what makes it so daft.
 
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Haha not sure why any sport would scare you really, unless you happened to be the age of 5? European sports arent the least bit scary, ive never seen a bigger group of wussies than football(soccer) players. Those guys slide into one anothers feet and go down like they have been shot. hahaha Honestly dude, if were talking toughness that sport cant hold a torch to hockey.

I agree rugby players are tough as nails, and rugby players are built for going the distance rather than short bursts of speed. Completely different sport than American Football and pretty hard to compare. A bunch of credible magazine have given it a try, and although the European ones tend to chose rugby as being tougher while NA publications choose Football. Neither magazine will be as dumb as to completely discredit the other when respect is due.


Originally Posted by Alan2005
North American sports don't scare me and I do understand them. They just suck.

this post is the best description of north american sports (even if I do say so myself)
 
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Originally Posted by R I C H
It's self-proclaimed within the sports, which is what makes it so daft.
'world series' anyone?
 
Old Sep 9th 2009 | 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea
But who is appointing a 'World Champion'?

I do agree that to measure a countries ratings among any given sport on a global scale than all countries should be allowed to compete.
World Series

Superbowl.



Basically national league championships hyped into "world championships"

Its not the sports really that are irksone, its the hype. Sure, there is athletic talent and tactical acumen...we will get back to them after this message from your local station....

The more popular european sports are more..continuous, for want of a better word. The participants tend to be on the field, in action for more than a minute at a time, and have to make decisions on the fly, for themselves.
 
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OK. Depends which league your talking about here? Pro leagues in NA may tend to do that and by all means it doesnt mean it is true. But on a world scale that we see at the olympics every year the only sport not played is NA football on a world scale. Every other country in the world has a chance to compete against one another on mostly all other sports?

So im confused what the NA invented sports are that claim their world champions when the rest of the world doesnt even really play the sport?

Originally Posted by R I C H
It's self-proclaimed within the sports, which is what makes it so daft.
 
Old Sep 9th 2009 | 8:22 am
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Yes agreed MLB does call it the 'World Series' for lack of a better word. Which they should probably call the 'North American Series'.But funny every time the Olympics come around we dont see any Europeans competing very well on a world scale in baseball when they have the chance? And as an aside, the best from around the world DO tend to come to MLB to play as it would be considered where your at the top of your game to most players.

And if your a fan of continuous run on sports than thats your preference. Im sure you were raised on and are familiar with those types of sports if you grew up in Europe. Therefor what you grow up on you tend to think is the best their possibly is out there. But some of the sports here have a different type of pace and feel, not to say that either is a better way of thinking.


Originally Posted by iaink
World Series

Superbowl.



Basically national league championships hyped into "world championships"

Its not the sports really that are irksone, its the hype. Sure, there is athletic talent and tactical acumen...we will get back to them after this message from your local station....

The more popular european sports are more..continuous, for want of a better word. The participants tend to be on the field, in action for more than a minute at a time, and have to make decisions on the fly, for themselves.

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Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea
Yes agreed MLB does call it the 'World Series' for lack of a better word. But funny every time the Olympics come around we dont see any Europeans competing very well on a world scale in baseball when they have the chance?

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All the sensible ones are playing a proper game called cricket.


American Football is the obvious example of a game with world champions despite it rarely being played elsewhere. Even lacross has more of an international participation base.

It seems to me that in canada at least Rugby is gaining a footing in schools at the expense of "football". Equipment expenses are lower, and it more fitness based than straight power and dynamics.

Anyway, each to there own. If I end up watching baseball on TV my wife has my full permission to smother me in my sleep
 
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Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea
OK. Depends which league your talking about here? Pro leagues in NA may tend to do that and by all means it doesnt mean it is true. But on a world scale that we see at the olympics every year the only sport not played is NA football on a world scale. Every other country in the world has a chance to compete against one another on mostly all other sports?

So im confused what the NA invented sports are that claim their world champions when the rest of the world doesnt even really play the sport?
The Olympics have nothing to do with world championships, most sports have separate competitions.

If the UK held a world championship for cricket, and only had English counties taking part, it would make as much sense as the NFL hosting a world championship superbowl game. The NFL is a national, not a world championship - I'm not aware of any teams outside of the USA being invited to join the leagues in order to try and reach the play-offs and a chance at being crowned 'world champions'. Same goes for baseball.
 
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Not swimming in the sea becasue you are affraid of sharks is like not flying because you are affraid of the plane crashing, its a one in a million chance you will be killed by a shark, its just being paranoid. Regarding jellyfish they are only in the beaches in the far northern tropical part of OZ where few people live, regarding snakes and spiders more people are killed by bees and wasps in the UK each year then snakes and spiders in OZ, No one has dies from a spider bite in OZ in 30 years.
Around 10 people a year are killed by the dangerous wildlife in OZ more are killed by falling trees. So if your not affraid of a tree falling on your head down under then you should'nt be affraid of the wildlife.
I recall as a child seeing many jellyfish in South Oz!!!!
 
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How does the olympics have nothing to do with WORLD championship? If you want a TRUE WORLD champion than the olympics is going to provide it. This is where the WORLD allows its best qualifying teams to play a various number of sports with the winning team of a particular sport being the WORLD champion, atleast for that year.

I agree with on on the NFL, and no im not aware of any other teams being invited either. Although there was NFL Europe.

As for the baseball arguement. The best players from around the world are scouted and most of they are at the top of the game persai will end up competing in the MLB. This is where the most money by far is to be had of any baseball league in the world.

You do not get many Europeans in MLB as many are not good enough to compete, you do get a ton of South and Central Americans who have the skills to compete in the league and therefor do.

Originally Posted by R I C H
The Olympics have nothing to do with world championships, most sports have separate competitions.

If the UK held a world championship for cricket, and only had English counties taking part, it would make as much sense as the NFL hosting a world championship superbowl game. The NFL is a national, not a world championship - I'm not aware of any teams outside of the USA being invited to join the leagues in order to try and reach the play-offs and a chance at being crowned 'world champions'. Same goes for baseball.
 
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Originally Posted by R I C H
not aware of any teams outside of the USA being invited to join the leagues in order to try and reach the play-offs and a chance at being crowned 'world champions'. Same goes for baseball.
Coughs...TORONTO blueJays...won it twice in fact. Just cos they are crap now....how soon people forget

TORONTO last I checked is outside the USA, albeit only just.
 
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Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea
How does the olympics have nothing to do with WORLD championship?
Its (allegedly) amateur, so as far as soccer goes its rather a joke youth tournament at best. Its hardly had a stand out history for attracting the top baseball talent either, and many team sports were dropped from the roster years ago or never made it on.
 
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Coughs... Good one i was thinking on a North American scale but you can say you caught me looking dumb.

I actually remember the day where I was etc when I watched those 2 back to back years. Think I even may have the series at home.


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Coughs...TORONTO blueJays...won it twice in fact. Just cos they are crap now....how soon people forget

TORONTO last I checked is outside the USA, albeit only just.
 


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