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Old Sep 1st 2009 | 11:00 am
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Originally Posted by GunnersCandy
Thanks for your info. Do you enjoy living in Perth? Perth did appeal to me more but I now have doubts from reading different threads about the "good schools" shortage and that many people say its boring!!! I live in Wales so I am used to not having a great deal around (unlike London etc). What area do you live in? or recommend?

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I answered you on the Butler question in the Aussie section. My kids go to public (state) school and others on the site will tell you schools are shit, but I'll tell you that my kids are doing just fine. Paying thousands of $ per year to send them to private school does not make your (not YOUR, but a general your) child smarter, better, less likely to be a criminal. Some of the little tossers I've seen at private school make my kids' so-called crap state school seem like Eton College.
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The data says that the Canadian system works better than the UK one, which works better than the US one....


Surely in any decision about Canada vs Australia, climate has to be a major factor? Its not like the two are similar in any way as far as I can tell.

Two things would have put me off (most of) Australia... Its too hot for me, and the constant sporting clashes between Aus and GB/ England mean that there is a lot more ribbing (and perhaps tension?) between australians and brits than there is between Canadians and Brits.
It's not always hot here, though Iain. Where I live in Perth we have distinct winter and summer seasons. Summers are definitely hot, with temps regularly in the mid to high 30s but winters are cold and wet with temperatures down to single digits. It's now spring here and 13 degrees this morning. Yesterday morning it was raining and +2.

Canada and Australia are culturally very similar in my opinion. Pretty much the main difference I've noticed here is the wealth of immigrants. Funny that. I guess it's because I'm one myself that I noticed how many there really are.
 
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I've noticed here is the wealth of immigrants.

 
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Originally Posted by rae
we considered this, not as seriously as the move to canada, but looked at it nonetheless, mainly due to friends in perth, who love it by the way still after 3 1/2yrs.

Anyway, our reasons not to go if this is any use at all were:-

too hot for too long, could not be bothered with the constant sunscreen.
not fussed about the beach.
can't swim in the sea due to fear of sharks, jellyfish and the like.
would not go into the outback due to fear of snakes, spiders, crocs.
don't like the idea of poisonous bitey things around/in/under the house.
too far away from the UK for visits or to go elsewhere in the world.
did not find the cost of living any better than the UK.

Now you could argue lots the other way for canada, for instance too cold instead of too hot, this is when personal preference will kick in. all the best.
l think its a bit of an exageration most people who live in OZ don't find the place too hot most of the year or have any bother with the wildlife apart from the annoying flies in summer.
 
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Originally Posted by Auld Yin
I've noticed here is the wealth of immigrants.

Given that, on average, an immigrant generates more economic activity than a local, it is a fabulous collective noun.
 
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Originally Posted by mohogony
l think its a bit of an exageration most people who live in OZ don't find the place too hot most of the year or have any bother with the wildlife apart from the annoying flies in summer.
Yeah, lots of people make outragesous generalisation though. The truth is Australia is not hot all year round at all, and what part are we talking about anyway? It's a big place, tropical? Or Tasmanian snow-covered moors? As for the sharks and spiders thing, if this is an actual phobia then I totally understand, but if it's not, then this is a ridiculous statement and one could just as easily say the same things about bears and wolves in Canada.

I have met a lot of Canadians who live in Aus including several who retired here for the weather, so depends on how far the OP is lookin ginto the future I guess. Both great countries IMO and both have better future than UK so the OP cannot really lose!
 
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End of the day, it might be more to do with where you can go, rather than where you would like to go. Immigration, requirements, recognition of qualifications, costs etc all come into play. Different fields may be better in one vs the other also. Also I've read on here before that OZ tends to be a more efficient and faster as far as immigrating goes.

The only draw to me for OZ is the better weather, although I only dislike the weather here for about 4 months. Overall I personally have more to gain in Canada and the isolation is a real turn off - may not be for others.

I think once you get past the weather, it's pretty even stephens.
 
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Originally Posted by mohogony
l think its a bit of an exageration most people who live in OZ don't find the place too hot most of the year or have any bother with the wildlife apart from the annoying flies in summer.
i think the important bit you have overlooked is OUR reasons, not THE reasons not to emigrate there.
on a separate note, how can you possibly speak for 'most' people in OZ, unless you get out a lot this is the exaggeration.
i have no idea what anyone, let alone 'most' people think anywhere, so not sure how you do.
 
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Originally Posted by rae
i think the important bit you have overlooked is OUR reasons, not THE reasons not to emigrate there.
on a separate note, how can you possibly speak for 'most' people in OZ, unless you get out a lot this is the exaggeration.
i have no idea what anyone, let alone 'most' people think anywhere, so not sure how you do.
I don't know. Australians I've met haven't complained about snakes, spiders etc. A few have told me that the persistently annoying flies are the worst thing. I assume that's why they wear those silly hats.
 
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End of the day, it might be more to do with where you can go, rather than where you would like to go. Immigration, requirements, recognition of qualifications, costs etc all come into play. Different fields may be better in one vs the other also. Also I've read on here before that OZ tends to be a more efficient and faster as far as immigrating goes.

The only draw to me for OZ is the better weather, although I only dislike the weather here for about 4 months. Overall I personally have more to gain in Canada and the isolation is a real turn off - may not be for others.

I think once you get past the weather, it's pretty even stephens.
It's pretty quick for skilled workers to come here now tho. Isn't it less than a year or something like that if you've got a job offer or the right skills.
 
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Yeah, lots of people make outragesous generalisation though.

As for the sharks and spiders thing, if this is an actual phobia then I totally understand, but if it's not, then this is a ridiculous statement and one could just as easily say the same things about bears and wolves in Canada.
i was not making an outrageous generalisation, i was stating my personal reasons. if you want facts i can give you them straight from the horses mouth from someone who has lived in perth for over 3yrs. no longer swims in the sea due to shark attacks, has had poisonous snakes under his house, and has had redbacks in his backyard. fact.


some more facts if this is seriously in dispute.

Box Jelly fish - The box jellyfish is considered the world's most venomous marine creature. The box jellyfish has killed more people in Australia than stonefish, sharks and crocodiles combined.

*The Sydney Funnelweb spider is considered the world's most deadly spider. It is the only spider that has killed people in less than 2 hours. Its fangs are powerful enough to bite through gloves and fingernails. The only animals without immunity to the funnelweb's venom are humans and monkeys.
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i said as much in my post, canada to cold, aus to hot, personal preference. of course there are bear attacks, not heard any from wolves, i don't believe this was ever in dispute. one difference, i don't have any bears in my garden.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
I don't know. Australians I've met haven't complained about snakes, spiders etc. A few have told me that the persistently annoying flies are the worst thing. I assume that's why they wear those silly hats.
to be fair, the odd one i have come across has not mentioned it either, this was simply my thing, and what i have had recounted to me by friends there did not help. maybe its an english adjustment thing.
i do take issue with being told its a huge generalisation that there are snakes and spiders in australia, are you ====ing kidding me. (not you the other poster)
 
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Originally Posted by rae
to be fair, the odd one i have come across has not mentioned it either, this was simply my thing, and what i have had recounted to me by friends there did not help. maybe its an english adjustment thing.
i do take issue with being told its a huge generalisation that there are snakes and spiders in australia, are you ====ing kidding me. (not you the other poster)
To be honest - the wildlife would put me off too. Still I guess you get used to dealing with it if you live there. Anyway, on the plus side for oz, I find aussies more friendly and humourous than Canadians on the whole; probably because they drink like brits. I'll add that I'm not sure if this is because i've only really met aussie ex-pats - they may be different to regular aussies.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
To be honest - the wildlife would put me off too. Still I guess you get used to dealing with it if you live there. Anyway, on the plus side for oz, I find aussies more friendly and humourous than Canadians on the whole; probably because they drink like brits. I'll add that I'm not sure if this is because i've only really met aussie ex-pats - they may be different to regular aussies.
i could not really say, i suppose the pom/aussie thing may lead to a little banter that is lacking here. on the wildlife front it can't be that bad i suppose, as my friend has no intention of moving back or elsewhere in aus. all i would say is its horses for courses, if winter sports is your thing then welcome, if you are a surfer dude sunworshiper then aus beckons and i am sure it is great. no bloody way you would get me on a surfboard though, like putting some meat on an open sarnie for the next Carcharodon carcharias.
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Originally Posted by Auld Yin
I've noticed here is the wealth of immigrants.

Apologies, but it was 7 am when I typed that. What I meant to say was A wealth of immigrants. Better?
 
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Apologies, but it was 7 am when I typed that. What I meant to say was A wealth of immigrants. Better?
don't worry about it, there is always one, then there is the rest of us who could not give a toss about the odd spelling, grammar, typo and the like. when will people learn this is not a bloody english language testing ground.
 


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