Originally Posted by Dorothy

But we women know our place here. I find it much easier being told I'm only a woman rather than that North American women's equality bull.

Originally Posted by mohogony

Not swimming in the sea becasue you are affraid of sharks is like not flying because you are affraid of the plane crashing, its a one in a million chance you will be killed by a shark, its just being paranoid. Regarding jellyfish they are only in the beaches in the far northern tropical part of OZ where few people live, regarding snakes and spiders more people are killed by bees and wasps in the UK each year then snakes and spiders in OZ, No one has dies from a spider bite in OZ in 30 years.
Around 10 people a year are killed by the dangerous wildlife in OZ more are killed by falling trees. So if your not affraid of a tree falling on your head down under then you should'nt be affraid of the wildlife.

Originally Posted by hereandthere

I won't bore you by copying and pasting various links to bear attacks in North America, but of course we both know they happen and we both know the odds of it happening are low, although I think bears have killed more people in NA than sharks have in Australia. And we also know some people do get bears in their properties. I swim in the ocean in Aus without fear, it just requires education. Also, your jellyfish are limited to certain parts of Aus. Again, just eduation.

Anyway, to the OP, you can't go wrong in my view. I have spent time in both countries and have family in both countries and both offer a great future. Someone above made the good point that this might be about which one you can get into though. They have different requirements, and both are tightening up their immigration laws. Check it out by going direct to the respective government websites and get the right info from the start. And good luck wherever you wind up!

Rae

I'm going back on my word about not boring you but just checked out Wiki (not by itself a trustable source of course) and it states that there have been 107 fatal bear attacks in NA between 1900 and 2003, and 11 fatal shark attacks in Australia since 1950. It also adds that "there were more attacks and fatalities than have been recorded as shown here, particularly in Canada and Alaska" so I guess the number could be a lot higher than 107. In fact, nearly 40 were in Canada alone, including one where a black bear stalked and killed three boys, which sounds kinda scary to me, I gotta say. Until I just read this I had no idea how dangerous these things actually are.

Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea

The thing is people imagine crazy shark deaths in their minds where they dont imagine dramatically being killed by a deadly falling tree.
As an aside I think if wildlife becomes a deciding factor on where you chose to spend the rest of your life you need to rethink things. Your more likely to be killed on the plane over to AUS than you are to be killed from wildlife living the rest of your life in AUS.

Cheers

Originally Posted by rae

i'll give you a choice then as it does not matter, you have two ways to die, one you walk through a forest on a nice gentle afternoon stroll and out of nowhere a tree falls, bang on the 'ead and thats you.
2nd option, while taking a nice dip in the warm sea, bobbing around you see a large fin pop up nearby, you start to panic, you turn and head for the shore. you look behind but the fin is gone, you know its somewhere deep below you in the dark. you continue, faster now, faster until you feel a gigantic blow to your midsection, you gasp for air as you are lifted out of the water. blood everywhere, excruciating pain as you feel dozens of razor sharp teeth ripping into your stomach and genitals. down into the water again, you are pushed and pulled from side to side. you feel your innards spill out and your body begin to separate and realise through total agony this is it.
well?

no i am sure that never crosses anyones mind when they go for a swim. you have to take a plane to get there, you don't have to swim though.

Originally Posted by rae

i'll give you a choice then as it does not matter, you have two ways to die, one you walk through a forest on a nice gentle afternoon stroll and out of nowhere a tree falls, bang on the 'ead and thats you.
2nd option, while taking a nice dip in the warm sea, bobbing around you see a large fin pop up nearby, you start to panic, you turn and head for the shore. you look behind but the fin is gone, you know its somewhere deep below you in the dark. you continue, faster now, faster until you feel a gigantic blow to your midsection, you gasp for air as you are lifted out of the water. blood everywhere, excruciating pain as you feel dozens of razor sharp teeth ripping into your stomach and genitals. down into the water again, you are pushed and pulled from side to side. you feel your innards spill out and your body begin to separate and realise through total agony this is it.
well?

no i am sure that never crosses anyones mind when they go for a swim. you have to take a plane to get there, you don't have to swim though.

Originally Posted by iaink

Very close to 50% of canadians live in "Rural" areas according to the last census. In my opinion its a very toronto or vancouver centric attitute to think that canadians are city dwellers.