Australia or Canada?
Sep 2nd 2009, 2:31 am
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Re: Australia or Canada?
i was not making an outrageous generalisation, i was stating my personal reasons. if you want facts i can give you them straight from the horses mouth from someone who has lived in perth for over 3yrs. no longer swims in the sea due to shark attacks, has had poisonous snakes under his house, and has had redbacks in his backyard. fact.
some more facts if this is seriously in dispute.
Box Jelly fish - The box jellyfish is considered the world's most venomous marine creature. The box jellyfish has killed more people in Australia than stonefish, sharks and crocodiles combined.
*The Sydney Funnelweb spider is considered the world's most deadly spider. It is the only spider that has killed people in less than 2 hours. Its fangs are powerful enough to bite through gloves and fingernails. The only animals without immunity to the funnelweb's venom are humans and monkeys.
http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/facts.htm
i said as much in my post, canada to cold, aus to hot, personal preference. of course there are bear attacks, not heard any from wolves, i don't believe this was ever in dispute. one difference, i don't have any bears in my garden.
some more facts if this is seriously in dispute.
Box Jelly fish - The box jellyfish is considered the world's most venomous marine creature. The box jellyfish has killed more people in Australia than stonefish, sharks and crocodiles combined.
*The Sydney Funnelweb spider is considered the world's most deadly spider. It is the only spider that has killed people in less than 2 hours. Its fangs are powerful enough to bite through gloves and fingernails. The only animals without immunity to the funnelweb's venom are humans and monkeys.
http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/facts.htm
i said as much in my post, canada to cold, aus to hot, personal preference. of course there are bear attacks, not heard any from wolves, i don't believe this was ever in dispute. one difference, i don't have any bears in my garden.
Anyway, to the OP, you can't go wrong in my view. I have spent time in both countries and have family in both countries and both offer a great future. Someone above made the good point that this might be about which one you can get into though. They have different requirements, and both are tightening up their immigration laws. Check it out by going direct to the respective government websites and get the right info from the start. And good luck wherever you wind up!
Rae
I'm going back on my word about not boring you but just checked out Wiki (not by itself a trustable source of course) and it states that there have been 107 fatal bear attacks in NA between 1900 and 2003, and 11 fatal shark attacks in Australia since 1950. It also adds that "there were more attacks and fatalities than have been recorded as shown here, particularly in Canada and Alaska" so I guess the number could be a lot higher than 107. In fact, nearly 40 were in Canada alone, including one where a black bear stalked and killed three boys, which sounds kinda scary to me, I gotta say. Until I just read this I had no idea how dangerous these things actually are.
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Sep 2nd 2009, 3:00 am
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Re: Australia or Canada?
Ya gotta watch those stalker bears. At first it's just a dinner date then they won't stop calling, sending flowers, texting. Next thing you know they show up at your workplace and start harrassing your family!
Sep 2nd 2009, 3:21 am
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Sep 2nd 2009, 4:03 am
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Re: Australia or Canada?
i was not making an outrageous generalisation, i was stating my personal reasons. if you want facts i can give you them straight from the horses mouth from someone who has lived in perth for over 3yrs. no longer swims in the sea due to shark attacks, has had poisonous snakes under his house, and has had redbacks in his backyard. fact.
some more facts if this is seriously in dispute.
Box Jelly fish - The box jellyfish is considered the world's most venomous marine creature. The box jellyfish has killed more people in Australia than stonefish, sharks and crocodiles combined.
*The Sydney Funnelweb spider is considered the world's most deadly spider. It is the only spider that has killed people in less than 2 hours. Its fangs are powerful enough to bite through gloves and fingernails. The only animals without immunity to the funnelweb's venom are humans and monkeys.
http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/facts.htm
i said as much in my post, canada to cold, aus to hot, personal preference. of course there are bear attacks, not heard any from wolves, i don't believe this was ever in dispute. one difference, i don't have any bears in my garden.
some more facts if this is seriously in dispute.
Box Jelly fish - The box jellyfish is considered the world's most venomous marine creature. The box jellyfish has killed more people in Australia than stonefish, sharks and crocodiles combined.
*The Sydney Funnelweb spider is considered the world's most deadly spider. It is the only spider that has killed people in less than 2 hours. Its fangs are powerful enough to bite through gloves and fingernails. The only animals without immunity to the funnelweb's venom are humans and monkeys.
http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/facts.htm
i said as much in my post, canada to cold, aus to hot, personal preference. of course there are bear attacks, not heard any from wolves, i don't believe this was ever in dispute. one difference, i don't have any bears in my garden.
Around 10 people a year are killed by the dangerous wildlife in OZ more are killed by falling trees. So if your not affraid of a tree falling on your head down under then you should'nt be affraid of the wildlife.
Sep 2nd 2009, 4:05 am
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Sep 2nd 2009, 4:12 am
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To be honest - the wildlife would put me off too. Still I guess you get used to dealing with it if you live there. Anyway, on the plus side for oz, I find aussies more friendly and humourous than Canadians on the whole; probably because they drink like brits. I'll add that I'm not sure if this is because i've only really met aussie ex-pats - they may be different to regular aussies.
Sep 2nd 2009, 4:17 am
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I say it would put me off too, but it's not like it even crossed my mind to go there.
Sep 2nd 2009, 8:02 am
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About OZ being too 'unbearably hot', the main news story down here in OZ at the moment is about a government minister who got lost in the snow and the attempt to rescue him before he froze to death.
Sep 2nd 2009, 12:52 pm
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Re: Australia or Canada?
Couldnt have said it better myself. Unless you have a genuine phobia about spiders or something than this really should NOT be a concern.
The thing is people imagine crazy shark deaths in their minds where they dont imagine dramatically being killed by a deadly falling tree. This seems to create a fear and misconception in the public that getting killed by an animal is a lot more likely than what it is.
Stating random facts about how deadly the wildlife in Australia doesnt seem to help the publics perception either. We have "redbacks" (similar to a black widow) here in southern Ontario and nobody gives them a thought.
Being all over AUS in a period of 3 months going through the rainforest, in the water etc. I didnt have an encounter and the thought didnt even occur to me. Not to say it wont to other people, and the jellyfish concern can be genuine in certain seasons but they have measures up to protect the public from this.
As an aside I think if wildlife becomes a deciding factor on where you chose to spend the rest of your life you need to rethink things. Your more likely to be killed on the plane over to AUS than you are to be killed from wildlife living the rest of your life in AUS.
Cheers
The thing is people imagine crazy shark deaths in their minds where they dont imagine dramatically being killed by a deadly falling tree. This seems to create a fear and misconception in the public that getting killed by an animal is a lot more likely than what it is.
Stating random facts about how deadly the wildlife in Australia doesnt seem to help the publics perception either. We have "redbacks" (similar to a black widow) here in southern Ontario and nobody gives them a thought.
Being all over AUS in a period of 3 months going through the rainforest, in the water etc. I didnt have an encounter and the thought didnt even occur to me. Not to say it wont to other people, and the jellyfish concern can be genuine in certain seasons but they have measures up to protect the public from this.
As an aside I think if wildlife becomes a deciding factor on where you chose to spend the rest of your life you need to rethink things. Your more likely to be killed on the plane over to AUS than you are to be killed from wildlife living the rest of your life in AUS.
Cheers
Not swimming in the sea becasue you are affraid of sharks is like not flying because you are affraid of the plane crashing, its a one in a million chance you will be killed by a shark, its just being paranoid. Regarding jellyfish they are only in the beaches in the far northern tropical part of OZ where few people live, regarding snakes and spiders more people are killed by bees and wasps in the UK each year then snakes and spiders in OZ, No one has dies from a spider bite in OZ in 30 years.
Around 10 people a year are killed by the dangerous wildlife in OZ more are killed by falling trees. So if your not affraid of a tree falling on your head down under then you should'nt be affraid of the wildlife.
Around 10 people a year are killed by the dangerous wildlife in OZ more are killed by falling trees. So if your not affraid of a tree falling on your head down under then you should'nt be affraid of the wildlife.
Sep 2nd 2009, 1:05 pm
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Re: Australia or Canada?
I loved the rampant chauvinism in Australia as a holiday amusement but it would be more of a concern in considering whether or not to live there than the faint risk of being bitten by a diggerywhatever.
Sep 2nd 2009, 1:24 pm
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But we women know our place here. I find it much easier being told I'm only a woman rather than that North American women's equality bull.
Sep 2nd 2009, 1:32 pm
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Sep 2nd 2009, 1:38 pm
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Re: Australia or Canada?
I'm a Canadian in Australia. Funny enough, I'm from southern Ontario (not Windsor, but my grandma was from Windsor England) and moved to Perth Australia.
No, I don't think you would enjoy Windsor Ontario. It's a very industrial city just across the river from Detroit, another industrial city. If you are looking for southwestern Ontario you may like London or Kitchener better. Towns of 135000 or so are not going to have the amenities you're looking for unless they are close to larger centres, though.
Take a read of the wiki article and then take a read of the relevant immigration sites to see whether you qualify for a visa to either.
No, I don't think you would enjoy Windsor Ontario. It's a very industrial city just across the river from Detroit, another industrial city. If you are looking for southwestern Ontario you may like London or Kitchener better. Towns of 135000 or so are not going to have the amenities you're looking for unless they are close to larger centres, though.
Take a read of the wiki article and then take a read of the relevant immigration sites to see whether you qualify for a visa to either.
Gunners Candy...hello and welcome to BE. I used to live in Rossett.
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