2016 Election
Nov 6th 2016, 4:49 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Nov 6th 2016, 4:54 am
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Nov 6th 2016, 4:59 am
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Nov 6th 2016, 5:34 am
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Re: 2016 Election
I almost exclusively use my landline for calls, and I do talk to pollsters. Have had an annoyingly large number this year, but most have been local.
Nov 6th 2016, 5:37 am
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Re: 2016 Election
That's a pretty lousy point, given the topic.
The Republican candidate who is running on a platform of immigrant bashing and tighter border controls is married to a woman who violated US immigration law. Your response is to get upset with the Democrats. Did the Democrats force Donald Trump to be a hypocrite or to marry someone who broke US immigration laws?
You have a lot of ideas swirling around in your head, but they are contradictory. Either you have an issue with immigration or you don't. It seems that you don't dislike immigration per se, but that you dislike immigrants who don't look like you.
The Republican candidate who is running on a platform of immigrant bashing and tighter border controls is married to a woman who violated US immigration law. Your response is to get upset with the Democrats. Did the Democrats force Donald Trump to be a hypocrite or to marry someone who broke US immigration laws?
You have a lot of ideas swirling around in your head, but they are contradictory. Either you have an issue with immigration or you don't. It seems that you don't dislike immigration per se, but that you dislike immigrants who don't look like you.
I live in a part of the US which is probably racially and culturally the most diverse to be found anywhere. Ive lived here for over forty years, that should tell you I'm quite happy and content with the environment. My daughter also happens to be married to an American whose grandparents came from Mexico
Nov 6th 2016, 5:44 am
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Re: 2016 Election
There is no mechanism by which america can "do the right thing" (start again with different nominees). Neither of these persons should be anywhere near a run for the whitehouse.
Anyone who disagrees is clearly too partizan to be objective. Worst nominees in history by a country mile.
Anyone who disagrees is clearly too partizan to be objective. Worst nominees in history by a country mile.
Doing the right thing is sometimes making a choice even when either choice is less than satisfying. It's choosing time ... choices that have come to existence due to the actions of the American primary voters.
Donald Trump is unfit. Knowing that doesn't make me partisan. It makes me a person with properly functioning eyes and ears. Hillary is imminently more qualified and more stable than Trump. My opinions are based on my observations and YMMV. Abstaining is also a choice.
Donald Trump is unfit. Knowing that doesn't make me partisan. It makes me a person with properly functioning eyes and ears. Hillary is imminently more qualified and more stable than Trump. My opinions are based on my observations and YMMV. Abstaining is also a choice.
Nov 6th 2016, 5:49 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Imagine you are really, really hungry, and your favorite healthy, high-quality deli is closed (and your fridge is bare). The only places open are KFC and Subway Sandwich. You are trying to eat healthy. Do you starve because neither option is ideal? Or do you go to Subway because you know you can at least get something that is marginally healthy?
Maybe not the best analogy?
Nov 6th 2016, 6:19 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Written by a U.S. citizen who is a Brit expat..hits the nail on the head about the ridiculous length of our election process.
Let’s Make 2016 the Last Endless American Election - The Daily Beast
Let’s Make 2016 the Last Endless American Election - The Daily Beast
Nov 6th 2016, 6:25 am
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Re: 2016 Election
After a couple of nights waking at 3am and unable to get back to sleep I've been taking melatonin. Working so far.
Nov 6th 2016, 7:08 am
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I like and welcome immigrants of any color or culture who come here the legal way just as I did and as my sister and her family did.
I live in a part of the US which is probably racially and culturally the most diverse to be found anywhere. Ive lived here for over forty years, that should tell you I'm quite happy and content with the environment. My daughter also happens to be married to an American whose grandparents came from Mexico
I live in a part of the US which is probably racially and culturally the most diverse to be found anywhere. Ive lived here for over forty years, that should tell you I'm quite happy and content with the environment. My daughter also happens to be married to an American whose grandparents came from Mexico
Nov 6th 2016, 7:25 am
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Re: 2016 Election
I agree. Most of them risked their very lives to cross that border. Many others still do. Significant sacrifice for the sake of their children in many cases. The majority of people who went through the costly and lenghy process of coming legally...did not suffer such risk to life and were quite able to live a decent life where they were while they went through the process. Until they have walked in the shoes of those who took such risks...don't judge so harshly. For the sake of my children, in their circumstance, I would have done the same.
Nov 6th 2016, 7:41 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Is this as big as I think / hope it is?
FBI Director Comey says agency stands by decision to not pursue case against Clinton - POLITICO
Basically, nothing to see here, folks ... move along ...
FBI Director Comey says agency stands by decision to not pursue case against Clinton - POLITICO
Basically, nothing to see here, folks ... move along ...
FBI Director James Comey told lawmakers on Sunday that after reviewing additional evidence, the agency has not changed its conclusion that there is not a case to bring against Hillary Clinton for how she handled classified materials through her private email server.
“Since my letter, the FBI investigative team has been working around the clock to process and review a large volume of emails from a device obtained in connection with an unrelated criminal investigation,” Comey said in the letter. “During that process we reviewed all of the communications that were to or from Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State. Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton. I am very grateful to the professionals at the FBI for doing an extraordinary amount of high-quality work in a short period of time.”
“Since my letter, the FBI investigative team has been working around the clock to process and review a large volume of emails from a device obtained in connection with an unrelated criminal investigation,” Comey said in the letter. “During that process we reviewed all of the communications that were to or from Hillary Clinton while she was Secretary of State. Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton. I am very grateful to the professionals at the FBI for doing an extraordinary amount of high-quality work in a short period of time.”
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Nov 6th 2016, 7:50 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Is this as big as I think / hope it is?
FBI Director Comey says agency stands by decision to not pursue case against Clinton - POLITICO
Basically, nothing to see here, folks ... move along ...
FBI Director Comey says agency stands by decision to not pursue case against Clinton - POLITICO
Basically, nothing to see here, folks ... move along ...
Nov 6th 2016, 8:01 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Will be interesting to see how Trump shamelessly walks back his recent praise of the FBI ..
Nov 6th 2016, 8:08 am
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Re: 2016 Election
Whomever wins the election...Comey will likely be history. The only FBI Director no one dared fire was J Edgar Hoover who had so many damaging files on everyone. It took the grim reaper to fire him.
