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Old Nov 2nd 2016, 1:08 am
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Not really. Mexico is a relatively minor exporter of steel to the US.

Trump is peddling false hope to places like this. Inefficient steel plants aren't going to start employing people again, NAFTA or no NAFTA.

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Old Nov 2nd 2016, 2:05 am
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In 2004 I had just arrived on my K1 visa. I was registered with a temp agency for work. I did a couple of days opening early/mail in votes and sorting them.

Criteria was good/spoiled. There were maybe 50-100 temps. We did not count the ballots or discern who was voted for as far as i recall. There were sheriffs deputies hanging around.

It was a week or so before the election, and the agency eventually figured out I did not actually have a valid work permit - ala K1 grey area.
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Steel jobs left because of China..not NAFTA. China, by the way, is who Trump gets the steel for his buildings from.
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Old Nov 2nd 2016, 2:29 am
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Well that's odd. Before Trump came along conservatives believed the government shouldn't be responsible for creating or protecting jobs.

In fact, 10 years ago these people would have been told by Republicans to retrain and move to where the jobs are.

Now we have a Democrat for free trade, free movement of capital and labor, and a Republican for job protection and tarrifs.
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It now appears that Comey is fully partisan....

FBI Now Releasing Documents About Bill Clinton and Marc Rich
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Originally Posted by dakota44
It now appears that Comey is fully partisan....

FBI Now Releasing Documents About Bill Clinton and Marc Rich
Yeh, Comey, as FBI director, needs to be fired. I am wondering whether he simply has a grudge against the Clintons. He was the person who prosecuted March Rich and then investigated (Bill) Clinton's pardon of him.
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It now appears that Comey is fully partisan....

FBI Now Releasing Documents About Bill Clinton and Marc Rich
Wtf... seriously what is going on? I'm in bizarre-o world.
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Okay, went to vote tonight and they use the machines in my new county.

I do prefer the idea of my ballot sitting inside that machine rather than being stored in a box or a closet or even a dumpster.
Thinking back, there was a machine in the room, it was covered in some manner, and I can't say it was a ballot machine for sure. It had a bunch of cables running to it (Power and 'other'). It could be that it was the ballot machine but was out of order, perhaps?
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Yeh, Comey, as FBI director, needs to be fired. I am wondering whether he simply has a grudge against the Clintons. He was the person who prosecuted March Rich and then investigated (Bill) Clinton's pardon of him.
Perhaps he has been promised a great position in a Trump administration for releasing these documents. YOu never know.
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Here in Ohio same story with the decline in economic conditions prompting many workers and the poor to vote for Trump in the area where I live.
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Old Nov 2nd 2016, 4:33 am
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Originally Posted by dakota44
Steel jobs left because of China..not NAFTA. China, by the way, is who Trump gets the steel for his buildings from.
Well, for those communities portrayed in that video are suffering, and many are voting for Trump as they believe 8 more years continuing the trends of the past 16 years will only make things worse.

High corporate taxes, cost of regulations, high medical premiums , all contribute to companies moving overseas, as well as lower wages- but companies when one considers cost of medical insurance and complying with regulations have salary costs above what they would be otherwise.

If a factory has a starting wage of $2,100, but pays $1,000 for medical premiums, So what do a lot of factories do ( at least in part of country I live in) ? They use temporary workers making barely above minimum wage, so they don't have to pay the medical insurance. Less full time factory jobs, means more people stuck in temp jobs.

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If a factory has a starting wage of $2,100, but pays $1,000 for medical premiums, So what do a lot of factories do ( at least in part of country I live in) ? They use temporary workers making barely above minimum wage, so they don't have to pay the medical insurance. Less full time factory jobs, means more people stuck in temp jobs.
Pre-ACA there was no mandate to provide insurance to workers. And, according to this study, there has been no increase in part time workers post-ACA:

Obamacare had little effect on part-time employment: Study

So I'm not convinced that the provision of insurance is what causes companies to use a lot of part time temporary workers; I suspect they'd be doing so regardless just as is the case in the UK. Similarly, the UK has seen its manufacturing jobs decimated too, despite the fact that health insurance isn't an equivalent issue there.

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The local Gov provides Healthcare and many families seem to rely on having one family member working for that due to the benefits.

Obviously depends on age but if you work in the say the service industry there is a point where the cost of Health insurance wipes out any additional earnings so unless you can bridge the gap it makes no sense to work full time.
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The Justice Department official in charge of informing Congress about the newly reactivated Hillary Clinton email probe is a political appointee and former private-practice lawyer who kept Clinton Campaign Chairman John Podesta “out of jail,” lobbied for a tax cheat later pardoned by President Bill Clinton and led the effort to confirm Attorney General Loretta Lynch.

Peter Kadzik, who was confirmed as assistant attorney general for legislative affairs in June 2014, represented Podesta in 1998 when independent counsel Kenneth Starr was investigating Podesta for his possible role in helping ex-Bill Clinton intern and mistress Monica Lewinsky land a job at the United Nations.

“Fantastic lawyer. Kept me out of jail,” Podesta wrote on Sept. 8, 2008 to Obama aide Cassandra Butts, according to emails hacked from Podesta’s Gmail account and posted by WikiLeaks.

Kadzik’s name has surfaced multiple times in regard to the FBI’s investigation of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton for using a private, homebrewed server. After FBI Director James Comey informed Congress on Thursday the FBI was reviving its inquiry when new evidence linked to a separate investigation was discovered, congressional leaders wrote to the Department of Justice seeking more information. Kadzik replied.

“We assure you that the Department will continue to work closely with the FBI and together, dedicate all necessary resources and take appropriate steps as expeditiously as possible,” Kadzik wrote on Oct. 31.

DOJ official who penned letter on Clinton probe represented her campaign chairman | Fox News

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Originally Posted by Steerpike
Thinking back, there was a machine in the room, it was covered in some manner, and I can't say it was a ballot machine for sure. It had a bunch of cables running to it (Power and 'other'). It could be that it was the ballot machine but was out of order, perhaps?
Or maybe for disabled voters? (which is very rarely used)
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