2016 Election
Nov 4th 2016, 2:35 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
Well from my own observation when I lived and worked in a wealthy part of the Bay Area most people who were doing well acted no differently in minimizing their tax bill or not contributing what they could easily afford to the well off, often living just several blocks from them- so perhaps I am not as offended by Trump as I should be- he is more obnoxious personally, but he doesn't seem much different in minimizing his taxes or not helping the poor than what I saw in the Bay Area.
Nov 4th 2016, 2:45 pm
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The huge tax loss I do find very curious, not that he carried-it forward, but what was original basis and why not affected by the bankruptcy ?
Nov 4th 2016, 2:59 pm
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And also...
No we don't, as I already explained. I have never claimed a charitable donation as a tax deduction in my life, and have no intention of ever doing so. The hundreds of $$$ I spent while fostering rescue dogs, the hundreds of $$$ I spent cooking food for a homeless shelter, the hundreds of $$$ of car we gave away to benefit homeless outreach... none of it has ever been mentioned on my tax return, even though it could have been. I don't need or want to reduce my tax burden.
Even if that were true, he's the one who's running for president. He's the one who's setting himself up as the morally superior candidate. How likely do you think it is that he'll change the tax code from which he has so stunningly benefited?
Of course, we do know the changes he'll make to the tax code... and guess what? The biggest cuts go to the richest people. Quelle surprise.
No we don't, as I already explained. I have never claimed a charitable donation as a tax deduction in my life, and have no intention of ever doing so. The hundreds of $$$ I spent while fostering rescue dogs, the hundreds of $$$ I spent cooking food for a homeless shelter, the hundreds of $$$ of car we gave away to benefit homeless outreach... none of it has ever been mentioned on my tax return, even though it could have been. I don't need or want to reduce my tax burden.
Even if that were true, he's the one who's running for president. He's the one who's setting himself up as the morally superior candidate. How likely do you think it is that he'll change the tax code from which he has so stunningly benefited?
Of course, we do know the changes he'll make to the tax code... and guess what? The biggest cuts go to the richest people. Quelle surprise.
My impression is Trump's "tax plan" was first adopted primarily because he thought a good sales pitch. Then later the justification for it developed.
Nov 4th 2016, 3:00 pm
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Nov 4th 2016, 3:13 pm
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I did though have a close relationship with a CPA firm through my work, and worked with them structuring corporate entities and taxes for my boss. We often spoke about methods the wealthy and better off used in the area where they had clients. In 10 years of conversations they never indicated they ever had a client who wanted to pay more taxes, or would avoid taking a legitimate deduction so they would pay their "fair share", though sometimes a client of theirs might avoid a tax strategy that might generate an audit.
Generally my impression was in the area I was in was that the wealthy and better-off certainly didn't show the concern for the poor or the working class as much as I see in the area of the Midwest I am currently in. It maybe because there is less segregation between the economic classes here.
Nov 4th 2016, 3:17 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
From anecdotal evidence of conversations I never remember hearing anyone saying they would not take a tax deduction or credit because they felt they should pay more taxes. Often I heard even middle income people say they would start paying someone to do their taxes so they could get every deduction or credit available.
I did though have a close relationship with a CPA firm through my work, and worked with them structuring corporate entities and taxes for my boss. We often spoke about methods the wealthy and better off used in the area where they had clients. In 10 years of conversations they never indicated they ever had a client who wanted to pay more taxes, or would avoid taking a legitimate deduction so they would pay their "fair share", though sometimes a client of theirs might avoid a tax strategy that might generate an audit.
Generally my impression was in the area I was in was that the wealthy and better-off certainly didn't show the concern for the poor or the working class as much as I see in the area of the Midwest I am currently in. It maybe because there is less segregation between the economic classes here.
I did though have a close relationship with a CPA firm through my work, and worked with them structuring corporate entities and taxes for my boss. We often spoke about methods the wealthy and better off used in the area where they had clients. In 10 years of conversations they never indicated they ever had a client who wanted to pay more taxes, or would avoid taking a legitimate deduction so they would pay their "fair share", though sometimes a client of theirs might avoid a tax strategy that might generate an audit.
Generally my impression was in the area I was in was that the wealthy and better-off certainly didn't show the concern for the poor or the working class as much as I see in the area of the Midwest I am currently in. It maybe because there is less segregation between the economic classes here.
Nov 4th 2016, 4:46 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
Trump's accountant wouldn't even sign off a proper mltn letter.
In other news, looks like evidence has been found proving Melania worked before her visa came through.
In other news, looks like evidence has been found proving Melania worked before her visa came through.
Nov 4th 2016, 5:33 pm
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So what's the big deal over Melania working without a visa? There are probably a few million working without visas and Hillary wants to give them an easy passage to legalization and citizenship.
Although I'm a dyed in the wool Democrat and have already voted for Hillary I'm dead against people crossing the border, breaking the law by working and staying illegally then qualifying for amnesty.
My sister in England had to wait ten long years before she finally got her Green Card
Although I'm a dyed in the wool Democrat and have already voted for Hillary I'm dead against people crossing the border, breaking the law by working and staying illegally then qualifying for amnesty.
My sister in England had to wait ten long years before she finally got her Green Card
Nov 4th 2016, 5:56 pm
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Well the whole thing with Trump wanting Americans to get the jobs (except when he hires Polish laborers to build his buildings with Chinese steel or Bangladesh factories to make his suits). A bit hypocritical.
Nov 4th 2016, 11:15 pm
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Re: 2016 Election
Nov 5th 2016, 5:23 am
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The "big deal" is that, if true, it's more evidence as to what a hypocrite Trump is.
Nov 5th 2016, 5:42 am
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That's exactly right. The media barely covered this story and Clinton herself never mentioned it ... not even once. Which shows a stark contrast between Mrs. Clinton and that orange monster.
Nov 5th 2016, 8:26 am
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I don't see Melania working without a visa while doing a little modeling is worth even mentioning.
While I was waiting for my green card I had a part time job. The day I received it the INS official asked me if I was employed. I answered yes and he was quite happy that I did have a job instead of becoming an instant liability on the welfare system
While I was waiting for my green card I had a part time job. The day I received it the INS official asked me if I was employed. I answered yes and he was quite happy that I did have a job instead of becoming an instant liability on the welfare system
Nov 5th 2016, 12:30 pm
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Previously, you claimed that you are "dead against people crossing the border, breaking the law by working and staying illegally then qualifying for amnesty." So you should be dead against Melania Trump, yet you aren't. I can only presume that you're giving her a pass because she isn't Mexican.
Nov 5th 2016, 2:12 pm
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It's pretty obvious that she didn't obey the law, and it's easy to guess that she knew that she was violating the law.
Previously, you claimed that you are "dead against people crossing the border, breaking the law by working and staying illegally then qualifying for amnesty." So you should be dead against Melania Trump, yet you aren't. I can only presume that you're giving her a pass because she isn't Mexican.
Previously, you claimed that you are "dead against people crossing the border, breaking the law by working and staying illegally then qualifying for amnesty." So you should be dead against Melania Trump, yet you aren't. I can only presume that you're giving her a pass because she isn't Mexican.
