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Old Oct 19th 2015 | 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
ID is ID, anyone in the US can obtain one, all it takes is some time, effort, and desire, nobody in the US is deprived of an ID.

I don't want to hear oh they are too poor, I am flipping poor and can't buy food some weeks, yet we both have ID's, responsible people have ID's.

Take a taxi or a bus and get the ID, I do not view it as a way to suppress anyone, only takes a little effort, time, and a fairly small amount of money to obtain an ID.

I see no valid reason to not have an ID.

Come to Canada and see how responsible adults vote, produce ID and don't whine about having to do so.
Are you being deliberately dense in ignoring the laundry list of ids that are admissible in Canada in comparison to the single photo id admissible in some US states? Perhaps you could explain why the Canucks have that laundry list rather than a single id?
 
Old Oct 19th 2015 | 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Giantaxe
Are you being deliberately dense in ignoring the laundry list of ids that are admissible in Canada in comparison to the single photo id admissible in some US states? Perhaps you could explain why the Canucks have that laundry list rather than a single id?
We have a laundry list of ID for everything for the most part.

I am done here you insults are not acceptable and trigger my mental health.
 
Old Oct 19th 2015 | 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I have no idea. Why don't you research that for me? Gather the proper documents and fill them in for me? No big deal. Right?

Incidentally, at some point, before I got the falsified document from the state of Texas, I was listening to a bunch of left-wing alarmist reporting about the new Republican strategy to suppress voter turnout. Apparently, the Republicans were trawling the rolls of registered voters, digging into their public records, and changing the names on their voter ID certificates. It sounded a bit far-fetched to me but either way, I had nothing to worry about, because I had only one legal name that I had ever used. EVER. Fast forward ------> I've now been given a name, on a legal document, that I have never used. Coinky-dink? I don't think so.

The point is not that it is (should be) an easy fix. The point is that I shouldn't even have to. Shady right-wing ****wits shouldn't be ****ing around with my name.
If you think something shady has happened, perhaps file a formal complaint with the country registrar and the da.
 
Old Oct 19th 2015 | 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
If you think something shady has happened, perhaps file a formal complaint with the country registrar and the da.
I found the information Leslie needed to correct her voter ID in 10 seconds and two mouse clicks, with the help of Google the Good. It's fairly simple.

What's really ticked Leslie off is that somehow her registration card was mailed to her and contained, for the first time ever on any of her IDs, her ex-husband's surname as her surname. I certainly don't think some faceless employee deep in the Texas voter registration bureaucracy had anything to do with it, but it would be very interesting to find out what procedure resulted in the change. That would be a lot more difficult than simply following the instructions to correct the voter ID. If the registrar wanted her off the rolls, there are much simpler ways.
 
Old Oct 19th 2015 | 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
Try insulting people less, insulting people the way you do, shows me how little you respect other human beings and are part of the problem instead of the solution to the current problems.
Originally Posted by Jsmth321
We have a laundry list of ID for everything for the most part.

I am done here you insults are not acceptable and trigger my mental health.
Erm ... You're the one that called me lazy. If your delicate sensibilities cannot take insults, perhaps you should refrain from dishing them out. You made insulting and disrespectful statements and are now, having been challenged, playing the victim.

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Old Oct 19th 2015 | 9:40 pm
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
I found the information Leslie needed to correct her voter ID in 10 seconds and two mouse clicks, with the help of Google the Good. It's fairly simple.

What's really ticked Leslie off is that somehow her registration card was mailed to her and contained, for the first time ever on any of her IDs, her ex-husband's surname as her surname. I certainly don't think some faceless employee deep in the Texas voter registration bureaucracy had anything to do with it, but it would be very interesting to find out what procedure resulted in the change. That would be a lot more difficult than simply following the instructions to correct the voter ID. If the registrar wanted her off the rolls, there are much simpler ways.
To say you are missing the point is the most understated understatement in the history of all statements that have ever been undered. I don't need you to "fix" the problem with your stunning Googling skills, but thanks anyway Dad.

If the state of Texas had "mistakenly" changed my name during the time that I was actually married, rather than 7 years after I was divorced, it would be a lot less suspect. I'm sure it had nothing at all to do with (1) Obama winning the White House twice, (2) single white women overwhelmingly voting Democrat and (3) the inevitable and impending purpling of Texas.
 
Old Oct 19th 2015 | 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by sir_eccles
If you think something shady has happened, perhaps file a formal complaint with the country registrar and the da.
I don't think it's technically illegal. But rather an opportunistic enforcement of an archaic law.

https://texaselectionlaw.wordpress.c...-certificates/


I'm going to re-register and keep all of the documentation. If they change my name again, I'll pursue it further.
 
Old Oct 20th 2015 | 12:59 am
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Holy shit - did someone actually claim to be 'triggered'? Is BE becoming tumblr now?

I'll pop over to Reddit to see if that's true
 
Old Oct 20th 2015 | 1:36 am
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Holy shit - did someone actually claim to be 'triggered'? Is BE becoming tumblr now?

I'll pop over to Reddit to see if that's true
Yes, apparently he thought he had some sort of Harry Potter invisible cloak, where he could throw around insults and lecture other people but nobody could possibly say anything back to him because he's "special".

The irony of being called a whiner by this particular poster does not escape me.
 
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Yes, apparently he thought he had some sort of Harry Potter invisible cloak, where he could throw around insults and lecture other people but nobody could possibly say anything back to him because he's "special".

The irony of being called a whiner by this particular poster does not escape me.
Ahh, there you go.
 
Old Oct 20th 2015 | 1:51 am
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ACHOB (Anybody but Clinton or Bush)
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Old Oct 20th 2015 | 2:09 am
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Originally Posted by Steerpike
I don't like Trump, but - I have got to hand it to him; he's really digging out the skeletons in the closet for the Republicans.

While Hilary is being grilled - yet again - over Benghazi, the issue of Bush failing to act on reasonable info about 9/11 is being re-surfaced, thanks to Trump.
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You're suggesting that Trump is a Hillary plant, and I'm enough of a conspiracy buff to agree. As for Bush failing to act to prevent 9/11, It's All Jeb!'s Fault.
It's shocking to me that somebody as (allegedly) intelligent as Jeb Bush is so easily and consistently trolled by Donald Trump. He falls for it every time. His answer, "GWB kept us safe." is a complete nightmare. Now there's a huge debate about whether W actually did keep us safe ... which is not helping Jeb at all. The correct answer is, "Trump is entitled to his opinion, I happen to disagree. However, GWB isn't running for president, I am, and Donald Trump is obviously trying to provoke me."
 
Old Oct 20th 2015 | 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321
It's only a big deal if someone makes it one or is too lazy to correct the mistake, google it and probably take you less then 60 seconds to find the info you need to correct the mistake.


I have never been well off, I have never had a DMV within a convenient location as California just never had enough to begin with, and yet I still managed to get on a transit bus and get myself to the DMV office to get a license or ID card and pay the fee. Doesn't take a whole lot but the person has to be willing to put in some effort, if they choose not to, well not my problem, voting should require some sort of identification, common sense really as signing a declaration saying it's true is a little silly in 2015.

It's even more difficult in parts of Canada to get an ID, yet people here don't bat an eye at needing some sort of ID in order to vote, no controversy, the poor still manage to vote if they desire to do so.

Seems everything in the US has to be more complicated then it really needs to be.
Thanks for the lecture on personal responsibility. Only one problem, I do have an ID, several forms actually. I have always had current, legal, government ID, since I was a teenager.

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Old Oct 20th 2015 | 3:48 am
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Leslie, I didn't mean to upset you and I didn't miss your point. My suggestion as to what ticked you off should relay that.

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Old Oct 20th 2015 | 4:21 am
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Originally Posted by FlaviusAetius
Leslie, I didn't mean to upset you and I didn't miss your point. My suggestion as to what ticked you off should relay that.

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I'm not upset, weirdo.

There are several different topics getting mixed up in your brain.

First, the discussion that was going on in the thread was about voter suppression. I offered my anecdotal experience (not to be a lazy whiner) as an example of how votes can be suppressed by confusion and bureaucratic chicanery. Most specifically in a Republican run state with a long history of gerrymandering and tinkering around with the rolls. Rick Perry, as it was determined by the Supreme Court, in the very recent past got his hand slapped for signing a law that was specifically written to discriminate against minority voters. I'm not imagining this and it's not all in my head. I subsequently got lectured about being lazy and too stupid to operate Google and basically blamed for everything bad that's ever happened on the planet. Charming.

Secondly, the issue to which you are alluding, is about the patriarchal bullying in American society where a woman can be forced, against her will, to use her ex-husband's name when she has a perfectly good name already. Yes, that is some seriously jacked-up bullshit, I don't like it and it's not even remotely cool. There. Happy now? However, that's not why I brought up the situation.

Thirdly, I can, and will, fix the situation as I see fit. I don't need a bunch of men doing all the hard brain thinking -n- stuff for me. My brain works just fine.

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