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jimf Jan 24th 2011 8:00 am

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Maybe Andy Gray can try this explanation next time he's on......

http://gotidude.blogspot.com/2006/02...-to-women.html

jimf Jan 31st 2011 4:24 am

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Torres out Carroll in ?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...astle-transfer

Partially discharged Jan 31st 2011 5:33 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9141792)

35 million pounds for a guy that has played once for England....crazy money....and I thought that the amounts being paid were going to be lower in this financial climate.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...dline-day-live

There are some great comments on this blog.

Are Newcastle going to be able to spend some of the 35 million today?

nldfc Jan 31st 2011 6:38 am

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Crouch to Newcastle is a rumour going around


link to sky sports deadline day drama :D ---> Linky Here

Oink Jan 31st 2011 6:55 am

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Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 9141908)
35 million pounds for a guy that has played once for England....crazy money....and I thought that the amounts being paid were going to be lower in this financial climate.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...dline-day-live

There are some great comments on this blog.

Are Newcastle going to be able to spend some of the 35 million today?

That's what happens when you let Americans anywhere near football. "Lets's buy this Carroll fella for 35 million British pounds in this January draft, he'll be the biscuit."

nldfc Jan 31st 2011 7:05 am

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Elmander to Newcastle they are saying now :blink:

magnumpi Jan 31st 2011 7:16 am

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James Beatey to the Pool.

Ha Ha nuva old man retiring to the seaside.:confused:

Oink Jan 31st 2011 7:22 am

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Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 9142083)
Elmander to Newcastle they are saying now :blink:

First Bolton and now Newcastle. The poor man. :(

jimf Jan 31st 2011 7:56 am

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Who could JIH be?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...er-affair.html

Novocastrian Jan 31st 2011 8:54 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9142110)
First Bolton and now Newcastle. The poor man. :(

I'm saying nowt until the deadline is passed. Right now I'm not too unhappy but I will be if they don't bring in someone half decent. If its Carroll for Elmander and about 30m quid with a commitment to invest it in players over the summer, I won't be suicidal.

nldfc Jan 31st 2011 9:26 am

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Seemingly a sizeable bid in for n'zogbia from Newcastle :blink:

Novocastrian Jan 31st 2011 9:37 am

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Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 9142340)
Seemingly a sizeable bid in for n'zogbia from Newcastle :blink:

:blink: indeed. Didn't we just flog him off?

Edit: "we" being Joe ****ing Kinnear. Wigan turned down the offer I'm told.

nldfc Jan 31st 2011 9:41 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9142366)
:blink: indeed. Didn't we just flog him off?

Edit: "we" being Joe ****ing Kinnear. Wigan turned down the offer I'm told.

Yip just heard they turned down 10 mill :blink:

jimf Jan 31st 2011 9:53 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9142366)
:blink: indeed. Didn't we just flog him off?

Edit: "we" being Joe ****ing Kinnear. Wigan turned down the offer I'm told.

That was Charles Insomia wasn't it?

nldfc Jan 31st 2011 9:57 am

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Turned down a 2nd bid of 12 mill as well

Oink Jan 31st 2011 10:08 am

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Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 9142405)
Turned down a 2nd bid of 12 mill as well

If Carroll was worth 35 surely they can have Crouch 25 mill?

Novocastrian Jan 31st 2011 10:12 am

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Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 9142405)
Turned down a 2nd bid of 12 mill as well

And ........ breathe.

Unless the grauniad missed something we've got nothing back for
Carroll.

Ah, well. I'm reasonably confident that we can avoid relegation, which after all is job one this season (actually job two; getting at least 4 out of 6 points against the reed and white stripey bastards was job one and that's already done).

With a bit of luck Carroll's thigh injury will be career ending.

JamesM Jan 31st 2011 10:35 am

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Interesting transfer window.

I will liken Carroll's move to Liverpool to when Stan Collymore joined them. The beginning of the end of his career.

Chelsea signed two world class players- not much else to write home about in the Premier League.

Thank goodness Spurs missed out on yet another midfielder. I actually need Charlie Adam to stay at Blackpool and play as I've just cashed in my transfer window wild card in the fantasy football after picking up 4 injuries in the FA Cup.

JamesM Jan 31st 2011 10:37 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9142427)
If Carroll was worth 35 surely they can have Crouch 25 mill?

For 35 million I would've given Newcastle Crouch, Pav and Keano!

Novocastrian Jan 31st 2011 10:44 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 9142485)
I will liken Carroll's move to Liverpool to when Stan Collymore joined them. The beginning of the end of his career.

No, I don't think so. The lad's got talent Brian. He'll go far.

JamesM Jan 31st 2011 10:54 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9142503)
No, I don't think so. The lad's got talent Brian. He'll go far.

He has talent- but will his off field antics surpass his on field talent over time?

I was explaining to a "cradle" recently why I found it hard to get excited about young english players after he continued to ram some kid at Arsenal down my throat- I told him to look up the following:

Stan Collymore
Francis Jeffers
Danny Cadamatri
Darren Huckerby
Lee Sharpe
Robbie Fowler
Kieron Dyer

I won't add any of the Tottenham players that failed to sizzle over the years.

Novocastrian Jan 31st 2011 11:18 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 9142532)
He has talent- but will his off field antics surpass his on field talent over time?

I honestly think they will. After the Toon, Liverpool will feel like Bournemouth.

DaveLovesDee Jan 31st 2011 12:20 pm

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9142170)

Don't know, but if ZZ is Zinedine Zidane I can see why the player would want to keep this quiet. :p


Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9142503)
No, I don't think so. The lad's got talent Brian. He'll go far.

M1 South to the M62, turn right and keep going to the end. If he wants to go further, he'll be swimming in the Mersey.

jimf Feb 1st 2011 5:48 am

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I wonder if he'll kiss the new badge on his shirt if he scores?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...rd-Bridge.html

DaveLovesDee Feb 1st 2011 5:07 pm

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9144671)
I wonder if he'll kiss the new badge on his shirt if he scores?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...rd-Bridge.html

I think he can kiss any respect Liverpool fans had left for him goodbye if that article is accurate!

Oink Feb 1st 2011 5:13 pm

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Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 9145949)
I think he can kiss any respect Liverpool fans had left for him goodbye if that article is accurate!

Oh yeah, Liverpool fans have a lot of respect? They're the worst in the world, even worse than you gooners and that's saying something. Disgusting display.


http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multim...hi_107911e.jpg :thumbdown:

Partially discharged Feb 2nd 2011 12:48 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 9142532)
He has talent- but will his off field antics surpass his on field talent over time?

I was explaining to a "cradle" recently why I found it hard to get excited about young english players after he continued to ram some kid at Arsenal down my throat- I told him to look up the following:

Stan Collymore
Francis Jeffers
Danny Cadamatri
Darren Huckerby
Lee Sharpe
Robbie Fowler
Kieron Dyer

I won't add any of the Tottenham players that failed to sizzle over the years.

Of your list, Robbie Fowler had talent and was able to see through the smoke and mirrors of Sven...the rest are pretty forgettable. Collymore is on Talk Sport as a pundit and he basically talks about the good old days etc....yawn.

In terms of Spurs players who have failed to shine, I'd suggest Woodgate, Huddlestone, Carrick etc.

JamesM Feb 3rd 2011 9:11 am

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Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 9146818)
In terms of Spurs players who have failed to shine, I'd suggest Woodgate, Huddlestone, Carrick etc.

All 3 of those are still playing top flight football and commanding big wages (Woodgate played at Real Madrid and Carrick still at United) but I could easily reel of others....

Woodgate and King are both players whom would have won 50 caps for England if they weren't watching TV in the treatment room.....

I'm talking young english players that were supposed to dominate their positions for 10 years who were pretty much finished in the top flight by 25 years old......

Flogger Feb 3rd 2011 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 9150334)
All 3 of those are still playing top flight football and commanding big wages (Woodgate played at Real Madrid and Carrick still at United) but I could easily reel of others....

I'm talking young english players that were supposed to dominate their positions for 10 years who were pretty much finished in the top flight by 25 years old......

I think Robbie Fowler could claim to have had a half decent career.

JamesM Feb 3rd 2011 9:27 am

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Originally Posted by Flogger (Post 9150346)
I think Robbie Fowler could claim to have had a half decent career.

Fair enough. He was perhaps a poor choice for my list.

Phenomenal scoring record at Liverpool and still high on Premier League goal scoring charts but could've been one of the all time greats and won far more than 26 England caps.

But the latter years of his career particular after the coke snorting celebration tainted him.

jimf Feb 3rd 2011 9:41 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 9150334)
All 3 of those are still playing top flight football and commanding big wages (Woodgate played at Real Madrid and Carrick still at United) but I could easily reel of others....

Woodgate and King are both players whom would have won 50 caps for England if they weren't watching TV in the treatment room.....

I'm talking young english players that were supposed to dominate their positions for 10 years who were pretty much finished in the top flight by 25 years old......

Briefly - wasn't he injured for most of his first season there then scored an own goal and got sent off on his debut?

Novocastrian Feb 3rd 2011 10:38 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9150385)
Briefly - wasn't he injured for most of his first season there then scored an own goal and got sent off on his debut?

JW has had no luck with injuries during his career. He had 18 starts in 2 seasons at Newcastle before Real Madrid: 9 starts in 2 seasons there.

Shit happens.

Oink Feb 3rd 2011 10:53 am

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Some things in life are bad

They can really make you mad

Other things just make you swear and curse.

When you're chewing on life's gristle

Don't grumble, give a whistle
and be glad that your club didn't waste 35million ****ing squid on a delinquent Geordie.

JamesM Feb 3rd 2011 11:21 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9150385)
Briefly - wasn't he injured for most of his first season there then scored an own goal and got sent off on his debut?

Yes- but also scored a memorable goal for Spurs in a cup final against Chelsea and during his time playing with "the Galacticos" won plaudits for being "the best defender in the world".

All his injuries never stopped top clubs signing him due to his performances and he hasn't tumbled down the leagues like a Francis Jeffers- both of a similar age.

There are players whose careers suffer through injury and there are players who for what ever reason think their early promise is enough and don't want to do the work on and off the pitch through out their careers- unfortunately for England we produce a lot of them which is my point going back to Andy Carroll and England's poor performances at the World Cup.

Partially discharged Feb 3rd 2011 12:26 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9150499)
JW has had no luck with injuries during his career. He had 18 starts in 2 seasons at Newcastle before Real Madrid: 9 starts in 2 seasons there.

Shit happens.

Wow...he makes Ledley King look good.

jimf Feb 3rd 2011 4:01 pm

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 9150579)
Yes- but also scored a memorable goal for Spurs in a cup final against Chelsea and during his time playing with "the Galacticos" won plaudits for being "the best defender in the world".

All his injuries never stopped top clubs signing him due to his performances and he hasn't tumbled down the leagues like a Francis Jeffers- both of a similar age.

There are players whose careers suffer through injury and there are players who for what ever reason think their early promise is enough and don't want to do the work on and off the pitch through out their careers- unfortunately for England we produce a lot of them which is my point going back to Andy Carroll and England's poor performances at the World Cup.

I think Woodgate is a good player when he plays. A poll in Spain voted him the worst ever signing though.

Your right about young English players not progressing though. I don't know what Jeffers ever did. Others like Jenas and Dyer looked very promising when they first broke through but seemed to believe they were superstars very quickly. In the end appart from negotiating lucrative contracts they've achieved very little.

Andy Carroll certainly has potential but I think there's a fair chance it'll end in tears. Newcastle can get him back cut price in a couple of years if it doesn't work out.

BristolUK Feb 5th 2011 4:22 am

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I haven't stopped laughing and my hands are sore.:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Novocastrian Feb 5th 2011 12:04 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 9154572)
I haven't stopped laughing and my hands are sore.:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I've been wondering what it is that has caused such amusement (not to mention sore hands).

This is because I've forgotten which team you support. Surely not Bristol, although would explain the mirth.

But to digress: I was rather pleased with the second half today.

Partially discharged Feb 5th 2011 12:36 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 9155199)
I've been wondering what it is that has caused such amusement (not to mention sore hands).

This is because I've forgotten which team you support. Surely not Bristol, although would explain the mirth.

But to digress: I was rather pleased with the second half today.

yes..that was unbelievable...when it was 4-0 in the 1st half and some of the newcastle fans were leaving, I did not have much hope it would end up 4-4....I bet Arsene was livid. That penalty that made it 4-3 was very soft.

There were a number of high scoring games today including Wigan/Blackburn on a real sodden pitch.

Posidrive Feb 5th 2011 8:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Partially discharged (Post 9155249)
That penalty that made it 4-3 was very soft.

Looked like fair recompense for the goal that was disallowed for offside when it wasn't.


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