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Old Jan 9th 2015 | 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by bats
Your flippant attempt to turn the question makes me think you don't have an answer.

Just because I don't think all muslims are evil terrorists does not mean that I support acts such as this. Please don't try to insult me by implying so.
I don't think all Muslims are either, in fact I know for sure they all arnt. But you try to point the finger still.

If I had this scum bag holding the child in a cross hair he be dead, Muslim or no muslim. That's my answer.
 
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Originally Posted by Shard
I think fundamentalist Muslims have a long history of killing their bretheren. And by their careful following of scripture, are doing their god's work. Of course I feel sympathy for the fallen officer, and imagine she was a more moderate muslim.

Islamaphobes fear Islam, not Muslims by the way. And the fear is not because of what we don't know, but because of what we do know.
Man has a history of killing man. This has continued through every year of human history.

We just come up with new names for the killing and the people that are involved to feel like we are progressing and have some sort of justification and understanding.
 
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Originally Posted by JamesM
Man has a history of killing man. This has continued through every year of human history.

We just come up with new names for the killing and the people that are involved to feel like we are progressing and have some sort of justification and understanding.
True, and Christianity has more blood on it's hands than most. You can possibly imagine a situation centuries ago where other religions rung their hands and pondered what to do about those blood thirsty Christians.
 
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Originally Posted by Tirytory
True, and Christianity has more blood on it's hands than most. You can possibly imagine a situation centuries ago where other religions rung their hands and pondered what to do about those blood thirsty Christians.
I think a better way of putting it is the white man (primarily of Western European descent) has a history of more killing than most.

Spinning Religion is just an excuse, like race for individual or individual(s) to achieve an alternate agenda through violent means bypassing any democratic discussion or solution.
 
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I notice there are a few hanging around the edge of this thread, adding little, just continue to snipe, again I'll leave it alone unless someone wishes to discuss the original post. To those that tried, thanks. Kiwi, shard, the rest , you know who you are, thanks.

You will note that at no point have I had a poke at the religion, only what will our glorious leaders do to arrive at a solution to this massive problem. I find it strange that some do not recognise that problem, perhaps this is because you are so much more removed to the feeling in many parts of Europe?

To those that see no problem brewing, my advice to you is get a shovel and continue to bury your head in the sand. Goodluck.
 
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At least in the good ole days they all knew who the enemy was, now it could be anyone in the street, the next door neighbours be them white black or brown?
 
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I notice there are a few hanging around the edge of this thread, adding little, just continue to snipe, again I'll leave it alone unless someone wishes to discuss the original post. To those that tried, thanks. Kiwi, shard, the rest , you know who you are, thanks.

You will note that at no point have I had a poke at the religion, only what of our glorious leaders to not yet arrive at a solution to this massive problem. I find it strange that some do not recognise that problem, perhaps this is because you are so much more removed to the feeling in many parts of Europe?

To those that see no problem brewing, my advice to you is get a shovel and continue to bury your head in the sand. Goodluck.
Here he is!

Have you just finished reading the Sun and Daily Mail this morning?

The Sun isn't so interesting now as they cover up on the Page 3.
 
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
At least in the good ole days they all knew who the enemy was, now it could be anyone in the street, the next door neighbours be them white black or brown?
Just keep looking over your shoulder my friend!
 
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Originally Posted by JamesM
Just keep looking over your shoulder my friend!
Now to be called your friend, that is insulting!

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For a start

Anyone going to or coming from known terrorist training or war zones should be questioned and held until they can prove that their visit was for non terrorist reasons.

The ones who are already living in the west, over 90+ in Canada AFAIK, who the police are "keeping an eye on" should be immediately take. Off the street and also questioned at length, only to be released if proven safe to live in the west.

Mosques can remain open, unless a threat or fundimental imam is linked with that mosque and preaching hatred, then it should be closed and the suspects arrested.

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Originally Posted by magnumpi
For a start

Anyone going to or coming from known terrorist training or war zones should be questioned and held until they can prove that their visit was for non terrorist reasons.

The ones who are already living in the west, over 90+ in Canada AFAIK, who the police are "keeping an eye on" should be immediately take. Off the street and also questioned at length, only to be released if proven safe to live in the west.
Now I like that, we could put them in a Guantanamo like base in the Yukon. That would teach them, but don't let them have orange boiler suits, naked and cold is a solution to that problem.
 
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
For a start

Anyone going to or coming from known terrorist training or war zones should be questioned and held until they can prove that their visit was for non terrorist reasons.

The ones who are already living in the west, over 90+ in Canada AFAIK, who the police are "keeping an eye on" should be immediately take. Off the street and also questioned at length, only to be released if proven safe to live in the west.

Mosques can remain open, unless a threat or fundimental imam is linked with that mosque and preaching hatred, then it should be closed and the suspects arrested.
Originally Posted by Yorkiechef
Now I like that, we could put them in a Guantanamo like base in the Yukon. That would teach them, but don't let them have orange boiler suits, naked and cold is a solution to that problem.
So you wish to reverse the burden of proof. How does one prove a trip to a location was for non terrorist purposes? Mr. PI, how could you justify hanging around locations with recording equipment is for non terrorist reasons?

Saying you are a PI does not cut it, the same excuse could be used by "muslims" too.

What crimes have those that are "having an eye kept on them", committed? If they have committed a crime, why have they not been arrested and prosecuted for it already?

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Old Jan 9th 2015 | 3:13 am
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Wow you really don't get this do u? This is a war on the west, except you of course no reason for u to be bothered by it

I was thinking of sending all the bad ones to the Falkland Islands until proven inicent.

The two brothers in France busy shooting evyone in their way we're known to have trained with terrorists, WTF were they able to walk free on their return I ask !!

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Originally Posted by magnumpi
For a start

Anyone going to or coming from known terrorist training or war zones should be questioned and held until they can prove that their visit was for non terrorist reasons.

The ones who are already living in the west, over 90+ in Canada AFAIK, who the police are "keeping an eye on" should be immediately take. Off the street and also questioned at length, only to be released if proven safe to live in the west.
You're right and the mentally unbalanced converts in Canada and the hardcore Al Qaeda in France were all known to police but overlooked. I suppose raids and detentions like you suggest will happen in France but don't know if it would fly here. Besides it being a potentially divisive political issue CSIS couldn't find their ass with both hands and I don't have much faith in the RCMP either. Most of the help they get in combating fundamentalist terrorism is going to come from the Muslim communities in our cities and they're collaborating on it now.
 
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Perhaps the French will ask Quebec for a little bit of the Northern part of the province. Just so that their clients could learn the French language to an acceptable standard. í ½í¸„.
 


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