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Old Jan 12th 2015 | 7:50 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
They certainly like to think so.
Look at Jian Ghomeshi! Moved here and rose to the top against all odds.

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Old Jan 12th 2015 | 8:01 am
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Originally Posted by JamesM
Look at Jian Ghomeshi! Moved here and rose to the top against all odds.
Well, there isn't any "odds" is there ?
 
Old Jan 12th 2015 | 8:03 am
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Well, there isn't any "odds" is there ?
Institutional racism.
 
Old Jan 12th 2015 | 8:05 am
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Institutional racism.
I don't believe that exists in crown corps, at least not in Quershi's time frame.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Yeah, and people keep demanding that innocent people must take action. No, they don't have to do anything. This isn't the middle east - people can do as they please.
Terrorism through the looking glass:

What if the terrorists were Christian? - Telegraph
 
Old Jan 12th 2015 | 9:27 am
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Terrorism through the looking glass:

What if the terrorists were Christian? - Telegraph
Wow, great read. Imagine if some one did kill Monty Python in the name of Jesus? A Bit of a scurmish would follow.
 
Old Jan 12th 2015 | 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
Terrorism through the looking glass:

What if the terrorists were Christian? - Telegraph
Who is that aimed at exactly? You posted that as a reply to me which suggests something, but I don't know what.
 
Old Jan 12th 2015 | 9:56 am
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Anyway, thanks for the input, I'll take absolutely no notice of you. Perhaps we may meet in Calgary cowboy!
Unlikely. Our mayor is Muslim. That probably doesn't fit into your frothy mouthed agenda.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Who is that aimed at exactly? You posted that as a reply to me which suggests something, but I don't know what.
You seem to be the only one taking an (opposing) interest in the issue, and assert that innocent people do not need to take action. The article paints a scenario where innocent people do feel compelled to take action.

However the article is aimed at everyone. Magnum liked it, so that's two "likes" so far.

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Old Jan 12th 2015 | 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
Terrorism through the looking glass:

What if the terrorists were Christian? - Telegraph
The author uses the word "we" in connection with reaction to the Anders Brievik incident. The incident was in Norway and the Norwegians responded in a balanced, sane manner without hysteria.

The article of course is prompted by the recent Paris atrocity, where the French have responded (so far at least) in a sane, balanced manner without hysteria.

When that English soldier got his head chopped off in London, "we" the British press, people and government responded with hysterical slanders on Islam, no balance and no sanity.

When a couple of crazies ran over a Canadian soldier and another committed suicide-by-Sergeant-at-Arms, "we" the Canadian press, people and government reacted with much the same with an added dash of false bravado.

I think some words should be chosen more carefully.
 
Old Jan 12th 2015 | 10:08 am
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You seem to be the only one taking an (opposing) interest in the issue, and assert that innocent people do not need to take action. The article paints a scenario where innocent people do feel compelled to take action.

However the article is aimed at everyone. Magnum liked it, so that's two "likes" so far.
That's not exactly a ringing endorsement.

I just dislike your view that all Muslims must do this and must do that. Sure, if an individual wants to then that would be great, but if they don't then that is ok too. You are more "if you are not with us you are against us", and that kind of us vs them attitude does more harm than good.
 
Old Jan 12th 2015 | 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
The author uses the word "we" in connection with reaction to the Anders Brievik incident. The incident was in Norway and the Norwegians responded in a balanced, sane manner without hysteria.

The article of course is prompted by the recent Paris atrocity, where the French have responded (so far at least) in a sane, balanced manner without hysteria.

When that English soldier got his head chopped off in London, "we" the British press, people and government responded with hysterical slanders on Islam, no balance and no sanity.

When a couple of crazies ran over a Canadian soldier and another committed suicide-by-Sergeant-at-Arms, "we" the Canadian press, people and government reacted with much the same with an added dash of false bravado.

I think some words should be chosen more carefully.
Sane, balanced? You won't like this then !!

https://www.intellihub.com/france-fu...ake-shootings/

Like a scene out of Nazi Germany, French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian announced Tuesday that 10,000 Army troops will be deployed into the streets to secure “sensitive points” in wake of the recent shooting attacks whi
 
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Gosh, 18 pages! post 1 summed it up perfectly:

Starters, legislation to ban halal meat, all animals to be slaughtered with the least stress on the animal, no face veils, stop building mosques, no Islamic schools, no Islamic laws..... Oh, it doesnt suit you? You need these things? Find another country to live in, this is our country and its not changing anymore.
 
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
The author uses the word "we" in connection with reaction to the Anders Brievik incident. The incident was in Norway and the Norwegians responded in a balanced, sane manner without hysteria.

The article of course is prompted by the recent Paris atrocity, where the French have responded (so far at least) in a sane, balanced manner without hysteria.

When that English soldier got his head chopped off in London, "we" the British press, people and government responded with hysterical slanders on Islam, no balance and no sanity.

When a couple of crazies ran over a Canadian soldier and another committed suicide-by-Sergeant-at-Arms, "we" the Canadian press, people and government reacted with much the same with an added dash of false bravado.

I think some words should be chosen more carefully.
Not much need for hysteria with Breivik because he's not part of an expansionist ideology with thousands more foot soldiers.

With the French, I have a feeling that it's early days. On the news tonight they spoke to Jews who are intending on leaving the country. They have mobilised 15000 troops internally, not sure if that fits your criteria for hysteria.

It's Germany who are the real interesting player on this topic. Pegida.

Just because hysterical slanders emerge when heads are chopped, that does not mean that there are not genuine underlying issues to be dealt with.

I think Canada handled the threat efficiently, and any bravado was earned.
 
Old Jan 12th 2015 | 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by Shard
Not much need for hysteria with Breivik because he's not part of an expansionist ideology with thousands more foot soldiers.

With the French, I have a feeling that it's early days. On the news tonight they spoke to Jews who are intending on leaving the country. They have mobilised 15000 troops internally, not sure if that fits your criteria for hysteria.

It's Germany who are the real interesting player on this topic. Pegida.

Just because hysterical slanders emerge when heads are chopped, that does not mean that there are not genuine underlying issues to be dealt with.

I think Canada handled the threat efficiently, and any bravado was earned.
Ah well, our views differ but I'm not sufficiently interested in yours to continue this discussion.

Have you a strong stance on Prince whats-his-name having sex with underaged slaves groomed by a convicted American billionaire sex offender?
 


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