Fundamentalism - What to do about Islamic....
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Who said they should apologise? Huh !!!
I think if the moderate Islamic followers condemned the actions of the few, then maybe the small % of extremists would think twice about shouting out "Allah is great" and think WTF they are doing, before they shoot next time.
Same as they try to bring in a ban on Automatic weapons in the US after the shootings there. (Meaning an attempt is being made to stem the killing)
I think if the moderate Islamic followers condemned the actions of the few, then maybe the small % of extremists would think twice about shouting out "Allah is great" and think WTF they are doing, before they shoot next time.
Same as they try to bring in a ban on Automatic weapons in the US after the shootings there. (Meaning an attempt is being made to stem the killing)
I didn't see you condemning the rape that JamesM posted about, maybe you secretly support it yeah? I mean it's the only logical conclusion given a moderate man like yourself says nothing. Perhaps if you condemned rapists more then maybe they'd think WTF am I doing before they rape somebody.
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In the same theme as his letter (if he's for real) I didn't notice huge participation from the Muslim community in today's French demonstrations. Only caught bits of it on TV, but given that 8% of French are Muslim, why were there not mass "not in our name" demonstrations? Plenty of individuals commiserating and saddened, even angry, but their community needs to mobilise and try to crush the fundamentalist ideology.
French imams rail against 'crazies who have seized our religion'
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What is a jihad denier?
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lets see, there was the brother of the murdered cop, the muslim guy who helped people to hide. There were these guys
French imams rail against 'crazies who have seized our religion'
French imams rail against 'crazies who have seized our religion'
My point is that moderates need to be more vocal and more effective than they have been. Plenty of individuals and imams express anger and frustration here and there (and so they should).
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A small step in the right direction. Looking forward to a million French muslims marching on this topic. As Caretaker suggested, it's early days, so it may yet happen.
My point is that moderates need to be more vocal and more effective than they have been. Plenty of individuals and imams express anger and frustration here and there (and so they should).
My point is that moderates need to be more vocal and more effective than they have been. Plenty of individuals and imams express anger and frustration here and there (and so they should).
Paris march balloons into France’s largest demonstration ever, with up to 1.6 million people flooding streets | National Post
see if the demographics are ok for you
60 million French people and only 1.6 out there demonstrating? Those moderate Christians should be more vocal
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Eh? Everyone can see what is happening, does it really matter how they characterize it?
I dislike religion as much as the next atheist, but it seems to me that you are letting rhetoric cloud your judgement a little. As Novo says you appear to be holding this ideology to a different standard to others.
Did you demand any kind of demonstrations (let alone "million man" ones) when the Catholics were busy diddling kids?
I dislike religion as much as the next atheist, but it seems to me that you are letting rhetoric cloud your judgement a little. As Novo says you appear to be holding this ideology to a different standard to others.
Did you demand any kind of demonstrations (let alone "million man" ones) when the Catholics were busy diddling kids?
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count up will you?
Paris march balloons into France’s largest demonstration ever, with up to 1.6 million people flooding streets | National Post
see if the demographics are ok for you
60 million French people and only 1.6 out there demonstrating? Those moderate Christians should be more vocal
Paris march balloons into France’s largest demonstration ever, with up to 1.6 million people flooding streets | National Post
see if the demographics are ok for you
60 million French people and only 1.6 out there demonstrating? Those moderate Christians should be more vocal
Everyone can be more vocal against fundamentalist Islam, but it is the moderate Muslims who must be most vocal. They, presumably, have the expert knowledge to counter the arguments of the fundamentalists.
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I've been watching it on TV. Many people. No demographic info, unfortunately.
Everyone can be more vocal against fundamentalist Islam, but it is the moderate Muslims who must be most vocal. They, presumably, have the expert knowledge to counter the arguments of the fundamentalists.
Everyone can be more vocal against fundamentalist Islam, but it is the moderate Muslims who must be most vocal. They, presumably, have the expert knowledge to counter the arguments of the fundamentalists.
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I'm pretty sure plenty of Muslims have condemned this.
I didn't see you condemning the rape that JamesM posted about, maybe you secretly support it yeah? I mean it's the only logical conclusion given a moderate man like yourself says nothing. Perhaps if you condemned rapists more then maybe they'd think WTF am I doing before they rape somebody.
I didn't see you condemning the rape that JamesM posted about, maybe you secretly support it yeah? I mean it's the only logical conclusion given a moderate man like yourself says nothing. Perhaps if you condemned rapists more then maybe they'd think WTF am I doing before they rape somebody.
I did add that we should make it difficult to obtain guns when the last US shooting took place. But that won't happen.
If you take time to read the name of THIS thread, you will notice it's a hint as to what it's about, it is a thread on what to do about "Islamic" fundamentalists. Hence why some have mentioned that scenario more than the Christians or rapes or world wars or pollution in China.
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Their actions - 10 year old suicide bombers, gun attacks on offices and supermarkets, hacking people to death, beheading, flying jets into skyscrapers etc - are somewhat more extreme than what we see from the lunatic christian right I reckon.



