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Old Jan 9th 2015 | 3:22 am
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
So you wish to reverse the burden of proof. How does one prove a trip to a location was for non terrorist purposes? Mr. PI, how could you justify hanging around locations with recording equipment is for non terrorist reasons?

Saying you are a PI does not cut it, the same excuse could be used by muslims too.

What crimes have those that are "having an eye kept on them", committed? If they have committed a crime, why have they not been arrested and prosecuted for it already?
Oh why let a little thing like the law stop you? Or individual rights to freedom. We could start applying it to other parts of human behaviour we don't like either, and really who needs to decide anyway... The unthinking masses seem good enough apparently..until of course it starts to have an impact on the way they live their life which is the inevitable conclusion.
 
Old Jan 9th 2015 | 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
Wow you really don't get this do u? This is a war on the west, except you of course no reason for u to be bothered by it
Where have I stated I am not bothered by it?

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I was thinking of sending all the bad ones to the Falkland Islands until proven inicent.
How would you define "bad ones"?

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The two brothers in France busy shooting evyone in their way we're known to have trained with terrorists, WTF were they able to walk free on their return I ask !!
Everyone? Really?

It would appear that the perpetrators are no longer alive.
 
Old Jan 9th 2015 | 3:32 am
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Originally Posted by Tirytory
Oh why let a little thing like the law stop you? Or individual rights to freedom. We could start applying it to other parts of human behaviour we don't like either, and really who needs to decide anyway... The unthinking masses seem good enough apparently..until of course it starts to have an impact on the way they live their life which is the inevitable conclusion.
Now don't be silly TT, if the police have 90+ possible terror suspects in Canada under a "carefull watch" which they have, then why not ? If this saves life's is it not worth a try?

Or do moral rights of terrorists come first. Before the life's of their next victims. They may have killed people, but they were just showing their fredom and right to do so Yeh?
 
Old Jan 9th 2015 | 3:37 am
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Got em! Two down, thousands to go!
 
Old Jan 9th 2015 | 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
Now don't be silly TT, if the police have 90+ possible terror suspects in Canada under a "carefull watch" which they have, then why not ? If this saves life's is it not worth a try?

Or do moral rights of terrorists come first. Before the life's of their next victims. They may have killed people, but they were just showing their fredom and right to do so Yeh?
I'm not being silly- you're the one proposing actions which affects everyone's civil liberties in the end.
 
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Originally Posted by Tirytory
I'm not being silly- you're the one proposing actions which affects everyone's civil liberties in the end.
Like the ones the cartoonists had?
 
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
Now don't be silly TT, if the police have 90+ possible terror suspects in Canada under a "carefull watch" which they have, then why not ? If this saves life's is it not worth a try?

Or do moral rights of terrorists come first. Before the life's of their next victims. They may have killed people, but they were just showing their fredom and right to do so Yeh?
You do know how democracy works right? If you don't like it, why not move to Russia?
 
Old Jan 9th 2015 | 3:43 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
You do know how democracy works right? If you don't like it, why not move to Russia?
In times like these we have to be strong.

You guys think everyone is going to Yemen and Afganistan or sumat wtf.

It's my opinion any how, you have your "let the terror people keep killing in the name of fredom" views and I have my don't close the door "after" the horse has gone views. Ok
 
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
you have your "let the terror people keep killing in the name of fredom" views and I have my don't close the door "after" the horse has gone views. Ok
Where has anyone said this? I'm beginning to think you have some kind of mental issue that prevents you reading what people actually say as you keep inventing points of view to argue with.
 
Old Jan 9th 2015 | 3:54 am
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The tone of other posters indicate this

Like you all think I want to lock every one up and crate Russianada, I dont, where have I said that every one should be locked up? Same shit pal !!
 
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Originally Posted by magnumpi
The tone of other posters indicate this

Like you all think I want to lock every one up and crate Russianada, I dont, where have I said that every one should be locked up? Same shit pal !!
You are reaching with that. Not wanting to punish innocent people does not lead to agreeing with murders.

You want to lock up suspects? Suspects who might well be innocent of anything.

You of all people might want to think about why they are under surveillance. You think it might just possibly be to gather evidence so that the actual terrorists can be arrested and innocent people aren't assumed to be guilty by association.
 
Old Jan 9th 2015 | 4:05 am
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How do you know they are innocent ? Oh Yeh innocent till they shoot some one I guess! Think of it more like protecting them from them selves, like a half way house, or they may want to be martyred Yeh ?

As for surveillance, IMO it's too hard to watch these people 100%, so don't even try as they are a risk to the public
 
Old Jan 9th 2015 | 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by caretaker
The Muslim officer killed was the one shot in the head while he lay wounded on the sidewalk at Charlie Hebdo.
Terrible isn't it. BBC spoke to some young North African Muslims on the news last night, and they were all appalled at the savagery that has taken place. This tragedy is a good chance the moderate majority to start raising their voice and seriously create division between themselves and the fundamentalists. Islam needs to do that. Somehow.
 
Old Jan 9th 2015 | 4:15 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
...you keep inventing points of view to argue with.
Originally Posted by magnumpi
...you all think I want to lock every one up
Good example of inventing a point to argue with. Where did anyone suggest you want to lock everyone up?
 
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So where does all this leave the Elephants???
 


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