Coronavirus
#5716
Re: Coronavirus
Trudeau’s travel between the two caused something of a furor when he posted an Easter weekend photo of him posing with his wife, Sophie Gregoire Trudeau, and their three children at what’s known as the prime minister’s cottage or summer retreat — a 16-room, Colonial Revival heritage house that sits on a 5.4-hectare property, along with three other smaller “cottages,” overlooking Harrington Lake in Quebec’s Gatineau hills.
But the way Trudeau sees it, he’s simply travelling between his work in Ottawa and his family’s home 30 minutes away, across the river in Quebec — just like many other Quebecers.
“Since I work at the residence in Ottawa and I do press conferences every day, it was not ideal for the children to stay there, so they went to the other official residence (at Harrington Lake),” he told popular Quebec television talk show Tout le monde en parle a couple of weeks ago.
But the way Trudeau sees it, he’s simply travelling between his work in Ottawa and his family’s home 30 minutes away, across the river in Quebec — just like many other Quebecers.
“Since I work at the residence in Ottawa and I do press conferences every day, it was not ideal for the children to stay there, so they went to the other official residence (at Harrington Lake),” he told popular Quebec television talk show Tout le monde en parle a couple of weeks ago.
And you're equating this with taking a plane to Mexico, or the other stuff I mentioned.
#5717
Re: Coronavirus
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/05/...work-and-home/
And you're equating this with taking a plane to Mexico, or the other stuff I mentioned.
And you're equating this with taking a plane to Mexico, or the other stuff I mentioned.
This is the same thing. It even says summer residence in the article you quoted.
#5718
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#5719
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Re: Coronavirus
https://www.nicd.ac.za/latest-confir...december-2021/
Today the institute reports 15,424 new COVID-19 cases that have been identified in South Africa, ....... This increase represents a 27.6% positivity rate.
As per the National Department of Health, a further 35 COVID-19 related deaths have been reported,
As per the National Department of Health, a further 35 COVID-19 related deaths have been reported,
Last edited by Siouxie; Dec 21st 2021 at 7:53 pm.
#5720
Re: Coronavirus
This is the same thing. It even says summer residence in the article you quoted.
But more important and for the last time, as per my original post, it does not compare to the other bad examples that made the news where people went on holiday to other countries or travelled the length of England to visit other members of the family for their birthday and retirement celebrations and then went on another 'eyesight testing' drive while there..
#5721
Re: Coronavirus
Stats for 21st December - they are updated daily...
https://www.nicd.ac.za/latest-confir...december-2021/
https://www.nicd.ac.za/latest-confir...december-2021/
Shouldn't we be thanking our lucky stars that Omicron takes over from Delta?
#5722
Re: Coronavirus
Yes its complete BS at the moment. BC shutting stuff down and going into panic mode while UK goes pubbing and partying while Boris monitors the situation despite massive numbers and many of his advisers not agreeing. Yes they may change things after Xmas but even the rather stern Scottish minister hasn't gone all out and shut stuff down as yet!
#5723
Re: Coronavirus
Yes its complete BS at the moment. BC shutting stuff down and going into panic mode while UK goes pubbing and partying while Boris monitors the situation despite massive numbers and many of his advisers not agreeing. Yes they may change things after Xmas but even the rather stern Scottish minister hasn't gone all out and shut stuff down as yet!
#5725
Re: Coronavirus
Not exactly the same as shutting down hospitality venues at this time of year, which they haven't done as yet unlike us. It is now pissing off the double and treble vaccinated in BC who have jumped through the hoops and got their vax passport so they could go to the gym, the pub, the clubs and travel. Now they cannot do any of those things except travel although the government is telling people they should not be travelling, certainly internationally, unless absolutely necessary.
#5726
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I never said anything was inaccurate in the video - just on his youtube channel (he has previously attributed the use of ivermectin as reason for decline in covid in Japan for example (from wikipedia))
#5727
Re: Coronavirus
Yes its complete BS at the moment. BC shutting stuff down and going into panic mode while UK goes pubbing and partying while Boris monitors the situation despite massive numbers and many of his advisers not agreeing. Yes they may change things after Xmas but even the rather stern Scottish minister hasn't gone all out and shut stuff down as yet!
Now this may not be as deadly - but a small percentage of a large number is as significant as a larger percentage of a smaller number in terms of impacts on health care. Add into that, the number of people impacted (infected or close contacts) - that may not affect directly the number of hospitalisations, but will lead to reduced staffing (which can) - and this reduction can affect all workplaces placing added stress on employees (https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...losed-by-covid).
So, there are reasons to be cautious - and to encourage those who can be vaccinated to get vaccinated, and those eligible to get boosters. Wearing of masks indoors are a common sense approach, as is maintaining social distancing. And then see how it goes - and adjust measures as necessary.
#5728
Re: Coronavirus
I think you both agree that Omicron is highly transmissible - was it something like multiplies 70 times faster than the original in that video? Also, the R rate is believed to be 3 to 5, and some areas are seeing doubling in two days.
Now this may not be as deadly - but a small percentage of a large number is as significant as a larger percentage of a smaller number in terms of impacts on health care. Add into that, the number of people impacted (infected or close contacts) - that may not affect directly the number of hospitalisations, but will lead to reduced staffing (which can) - and this reduction can affect all workplaces placing added stress on employees (https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...losed-by-covid).
So, there are reasons to be cautious - and to encourage those who can be vaccinated to get vaccinated, and those eligible to get boosters. Wearing of masks indoors are a common sense approach, as is maintaining social distancing. And then see how it goes - and adjust measures as necessary.
Now this may not be as deadly - but a small percentage of a large number is as significant as a larger percentage of a smaller number in terms of impacts on health care. Add into that, the number of people impacted (infected or close contacts) - that may not affect directly the number of hospitalisations, but will lead to reduced staffing (which can) - and this reduction can affect all workplaces placing added stress on employees (https://www.theguardian.com/culture/...losed-by-covid).
So, there are reasons to be cautious - and to encourage those who can be vaccinated to get vaccinated, and those eligible to get boosters. Wearing of masks indoors are a common sense approach, as is maintaining social distancing. And then see how it goes - and adjust measures as necessary.
#5729
Re: Coronavirus
I said exactly the same thing the other day.... the sh!thead media and some other people are losing their minds over omicron and "case counts" I think as you say we should actually be thanking out lucky stars.... it overtaken a more deadly variant... who cares if 4000 peole caught a cold yesterday, its a little diferent to the actual deaths and hospitalisations that were being caused by Delta.... perspective seems to have gone clean out of the window.
#5730
Re: Coronavirus
I said exactly the same thing the other day.... the sh!thead media and some other people are losing their minds over omicron and "case counts" I think as you say we should actually be thanking out lucky stars.... it overtaken a more deadly variant... who cares if 4000 peole caught a cold yesterday, its a little diferent to the actual deaths and hospitalisations that were being caused by Delta.... perspective seems to have gone clean out of the window.
For those that end up in hospital it will not be "a cold" it will be major body damage or death, and it will cost the public money to treat and care for these individuals. In addition, if the hospitals do paradoxically fill up because of the milder Omicron, there will be cancelled operations and treatements (eg. cancer, cardiac). That has happened and will happen again if the public is dismissive of the risk.
I'm not sure if you saw the post, but one of BE'ers in Nova Scotia reported on catching Covid and being seriously debilitated by long Covid for several months (at the time of her posting). Caution is the right approach.