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Old Dec 20th 2021, 1:04 am
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Here you go. Based on science too:

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Originally Posted by JamesM
Nonsense- 24 Sussex is the residence of the Prime Minister.
Exactly so. Place of work. Would he live there if he wasn't the PM? No, so he'd be at the family home.

As I said, it's completely different to those taking holidays away. He went to the family home. From work

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Here you go. Based on science too:

First Omicron science - YouTube
Very good explanation for how/why Omicron is faster at spreading but not necessarily more damaging to the individual getting infected, for those that want to know the details.

It seems the conspiracy theorists and and anti-vaxxers have stopped following this guy as the comments I was reading under his earlier videos appear to have dried up. They must be going elsewhere for their fill.

So now we just have to hope that while it's doing its work (spreading 70 times more quickly than other variants) it's not also creating other, more dangerous, variants at 70 times the speed that previous variants took.
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Here you go. Based on science too:

First Omicron science - YouTube
Thank you. Easy to understand, very informative. I see why it is so much more easily transmitted than other varieties. More info to come in future I'm sure. It is disappointing that the vaccine and previous infection isn't much help in avoiding catching Omicron.

Everyone please take care of yourselves the next few weeks!

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Here you go. Based on science too:

First Omicron science - YouTube
Just for clarity, Dr John Campbell is a doctor as he has a Phd in nursing education.

He also has a masters in health science, and initial degree in biology.

Not everything he says on his youtube channel is accurate, so should not be used as sole source.
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Here you go. Based on science too:

First Omicron science - YouTube
Very interesting, easy to understand and informative.... you can see why the omicron variant is much less of a threat, it infects an entirely different part of the lungs....and serious illness pneumonia like symptons never develop. So come on lets move on..were all vaccinated, protect the vunerable and the rest of us lets get out there, cant keep locking us up forever!!
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Gotta love this balanced view:

“If you’re not vaccinated, you shouldn’t be allowed in the hospital, you shouldn’t be allowed to fly, you shouldn’t be allowed on the London Underground, and you shouldn’t be allowed in the local supermarket or your pharmacy either,”


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Originally Posted by BristolUK
Exactly so. Place of work. Would he live there if he wasn't the PM? No, so he'd be at the family home.

As I said, it's completely different to those taking holidays away. He went to the family home. From work
Still nonsense.

You're basically saying that the man is entitled to move around homes while the rest of us aren't.

Lots of people work from home and he did not drive from work to home. He has a perfectly good home in Ottawa.

You're defence of his is terrible. Are you Tru-Anon?
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Originally Posted by JamesM
Still nonsense.

You're basically saying that the man is entitled to move around homes while the rest of us aren't.
No, just that there's one address he's at because he works there and there's the family home in a different place. Is the family supposed to up sticks and move to his place of work? Wouldn't that be bad too?
I'm just saying that what he did is not comparable to the sort of thing people have complained about - flitting about the world, pretending to be local workers rather than millionaires,or driving to 'not the family home' to celebrate two family birthdays and a parental retirement and then going out for a drive to test eyesight and all that WITH covid. There's really no comparison.


Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
Very interesting, easy to understand and informative.... you can see why the omicron variant is much less of a threat, it infects an entirely different part of the lungs....and serious illness pneumonia like symptons never develop. So come on lets move on..were all vaccinated, protect the vunerable and the rest of us lets get out there, cant keep locking us up forever!!
As he says n the video "Wow! 70 times as fast" I think there was an extra Wow in there too.

We've been dealing with this since March 2020? I'm losing track of different variants/mutations or whatever and I've also forgotten which is which. So I call them versions. We know - we were told - that there would be different versions. We're familiar with the idea that some spread more quickly and others more slowly. We're familiar with this one doesn't do as much damage as that one.

How many variations of significant differences have we had now? Is it three? Over a bit more than 18 months. One every 6 months or so?

But this one is 70 times as fast with its spread as previous versions. What if that means the development of different versions is sped up by 70? I'm sure an expert would be able to answer that but does it seem improbable to you that instead of a different dominant strain every six months with 'slow' variants we could see significantly different strains, say, every couple of months?

And that before we can name the latest version that's different to the last one, it has already been doing the rounds in different countries undetected - just like the previous ones - only now this one isn't as harmless.

What makes you so confident this won't happen? Why not just allow enough time for the experts to be sure that while it's left the upper tract it hasn't deposited something that works it way down lower, and that the next version that hits hasn't been sped up.
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Happy Anniversary Covid!

Today, December 21st, marks two years since the China CDC Weekly acknowledged the first “cluster of pneumonia cases with an unknown cause … in Wuhan.

Emerging and re-emerging pathogens are great challenges to the public health (1). A cluster of pneumonia cases with an unknown cause occurred in Wuhan starting on December 21, 2019.
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Originally Posted by old.sparkles
Just for clarity, Dr John Campbell is a doctor as he has a Phd in nursing education.

He also has a masters in health science, and initial degree in biology.

Not everything he says on his youtube channel is accurate, so should not be used as sole source.
Are you able to point us to anything that he said in that video that was inaccurate?

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Originally Posted by BristolUK
No, just that there's one address he's at because he works there and there's the family home in a different place. Is the family supposed to up sticks and move to his place of work? Wouldn't that be bad too?
I'm just saying that what he did is not comparable to the sort of thing people have complained about - flitting about the world, pretending to be local workers rather than millionaires,or driving to 'not the family home' to celebrate two family birthdays and a parental retirement and then going out for a drive to test eyesight and all that WITH covid. There's really no comparison.
The family resides in Ottawa. I'm not sure why you struggle to understand this? They deliberately went to another place when they were supposed to be locked down. If memory serves his wife was also diagnosed with Covid and still managed to switch location. What they did was totally comparable you are just being selective.
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
No, just that there's one address he's at because he works there and there's the family home in a different place. Is the family supposed to up sticks and move to his place of work? Wouldn't that be bad too?
I'm just saying that what he did is not comparable to the sort of thing people have complained about - flitting about the world, pretending to be local workers rather than millionaires,or driving to 'not the family home' to celebrate two family birthdays and a parental retirement and then going out for a drive to test eyesight and all that WITH covid. There's really no comparison.



As he says n the video "Wow! 70 times as fast" I think there was an extra Wow in there too.

We've been dealing with this since March 2020? I'm losing track of different variants/mutations or whatever and I've also forgotten which is which. So I call them versions. We know - we were told - that there would be different versions. We're familiar with the idea that some spread more quickly and others more slowly. We're familiar with this one doesn't do as much damage as that one.

How many variations of significant differences have we had now? Is it three? Over a bit more than 18 months. One every 6 months or so?

But this one is 70 times as fast with its spread as previous versions. What if that means the development of different versions is sped up by 70? I'm sure an expert would be able to answer that but does it seem improbable to you that instead of a different dominant strain every six months with 'slow' variants we could see significantly different strains, say, every couple of months?

And that before we can name the latest version that's different to the last one, it has already been doing the rounds in different countries undetected - just like the previous ones - only now this one isn't as harmless.

What makes you so confident this won't happen? Why not just allow enough time for the experts to be sure that while it's left the upper tract it hasn't deposited something that works it way down lower, and that the next version that hits hasn't been sped up.
Well yes, brilliant! Let's just have a tiny amount of patience and take good care of ourselves as best we can.

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14 Omicron deaths worldwide (3 countries) so far.....I'm not a gambling man, but I think we will be OK here in Canada.

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14 Omicron deaths worldwide (3 countries) so far.....I'm not a gambling man, but I think we will be OK here in Canada.
Mass over-reaction then on the parts of most EU and Canadian provincial governments with the re-introduction of lockdowns and restrictions. Absolutely appalling.
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