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Old Dec 31st 2021, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Boiler
I went for a pint yesterday, the Brewery I went to is now in a indoor mask requirement area, must have changed in the last week.

We now have snow, time of year, so packed. So you are supposed to wear your mask until you get to the bar and then once you have your beer in hand mask is not required.

The logic escapes me.
Is drinking at the bar allowed there?

You have to be seated at a table here and eating / drinking to be able to remove your mask. The tables are spaced as well so as to maintain distance from other patrons.

If you subsequently test positive, you will hopefully only transmit to other people in your group.
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Is drinking at the bar allowed there?

You have to be seated at a table here and eating / drinking to be able to remove your mask. The tables are spaced as well so as to maintain distance from other patrons.

If you subsequently test positive, you will hopefully only transmit to other people in your group.
That is what is happening in BC. No table hopping either.

Limited number of people in homes, including for Christmas or NY dinners ............ 1 household plus 1 household ....... and only that other household, no invti8ng one family tonight and another tomorrow. All big or organized Christmas and New Year's parties, banquets etc cancelled.

You have to show proof of full vaccination and photo ID for entry to restaurants and bar, cinemas, etc etc. Night clubs closed.
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Originally Posted by old.sparkles
Is drinking at the bar allowed there?

You have to be seated at a table here and eating / drinking to be able to remove your mask. The tables are spaced as well so as to maintain distance from other patrons.

If you subsequently test positive, you will hopefully only transmit to other people in your group.
I was recently in Denver which I think has had restrictions for a month or so and they have brought back the mask requirement but no sign I saw of going back to limited seating, all the places I went to had bar seating. But not that busy.

The place I was referring to earlier is in Breckenridge so despite the late snow this year very busy and no bar issues. Tap Room so not sure how they could operate as it is a mix of bar seats and big benches.

Where I live there are currently no restrictions.

I read that it is extremely easy to get the latest variant so not sure it really makes that much difference. You are most likely going to get it, just when.
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
Just tested positive myself. Very minor symptoms - fatigue, minor cough - certainly nothing I'd have taken so much as a day off work for in any other circumstance. However, rules be rules and I'm self-isolating for 10 days. It's put a real spanner in our New Year plans but in the big scheme of things that's a trifle.

I've had 2 jabs and got the booster just a week ago, although to be fair we have certainly been fairly actively socialising until now. No-one else in the family/social group has tested positive (yet). I'm reminded of the time in Calgary in 2008/9 when my wife alone got swine flu which totally wrecked her for about 3 weeks yet none of the rest of the household got it.

On the plus side, if most people who are testing positive have as minor symptoms as me then this Omicron would seem to be little more than an inconvenience. I'm fully for taking all measures necessary to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed but I've yet to see evidence that there is a corresponding increase on hospitalisations from the fully vaccinated population.
Sorry to read that.

Good for you getting the shots and good that your symptoms are minor.
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Is it still only 1 (one) omicron death in the US, 4 weeks in with a nation of 330m people? Hard to find reputable information online right now. Are we still at 0 (zero) in Canada?
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Is it still only 1 (one) omicron death in the US, 4 weeks in with a nation of 330m people? Hard to find reputable information online right now. Are we still at 0 (zero) in Canada?
Dunno but this Forbes article dated Dec 18 says
While the jury’s still out on how virulent the Omicron variant may be, this new variant is proving that it can hospitalize and kill people, which is not what the common cold commonly does. Today, the U.K. Health Security Agency reported that there have already been seven deaths and 85 hospitalizations related to the Omicron variant in the U.K. as of December 16.
That's in two days.

I'm putting off my plans for hugging and snogging for the time being.
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Dunno but this Forbes article dated Dec 18 says

That's in two days.

I'm putting off my plans for hugging and snogging for the time being.
Well i'm not sure but with the latest figure from UK today on case numbers, almost 250,000 i would hope that this is very much a common cold because if it isn't then they are in for some serious hospital overload never before seen and i'm pretty sure the scientsts and professors that calculate all this stuff alongside NHS advisors will have been consulted on this and a more rigorous set of rules or a lock down would have been ordered by Boris already but it hasn't. There is talk of contingency plans to be made as 300,000 NHS staff could be off isolating if predictions are correct. Who knows maybe Boris has been busy changing nappys (diapers) at home and forgot he was running the country.
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Well i'm not sure but with the latest figure from UK today on case numbers, almost 250,000 i would hope that this is very much a common cold because if it isn't then they are in for some serious hospital overload never before seen and i'm pretty sure the scientsts and professors that calculate all this stuff alongside NHS advisors will have been consulted on this and a more rigorous set of rules or a lock down would have been ordered by Boris already but it hasn't. There is talk of contingency plans to be made as 300,000 NHS staff could be off isolating if predictions are correct. Who knows maybe Boris has been busy changing nappys (diapers) at home and forgot he was running the country.
It's the inconsistency that's bothering me.

Of course the UK advisors were all consulted last year in 2020 and their recommendations pretty much ignored so I don't think just because a government "does something" is because of advice. I mean Wales and Scotland must surely have the same batch of advisors as England but they've done different stuff. It's the same variant in most places but contrast England and Quebec with its curfew.

But mostly what bothers me most - and nobody seems to address this when I mention it - is from day one we were told there would be variants as the virus spreads. We have seen this come true. And now, apparently, we are somewhere between "not worrying" about Omicron and even encouraging its spread because it's like a cold.

How do we know that while it's spreading even more quickly that it's not mutating (and at a faster rate than others)? All the others have so why are we excluding that possibility for this one?

Is it like Doctor Who with a limit on regenerations or something like that?
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Highest ever daily case count here - 434, which I know is tiny compared to elsewhere. Stage 3 lockdown so restaurants at 50% capacity and bars closed. Schools will be virtual learning from Tuesday with a reassessment every Thursday. Only 1 hospitalization current which is encouraging. However all routine procedures being cancelled which is less so as I have one at the end of the month. Social media pretty evenly split between “Nah its fine, no need for any lockdowns” and “sweet Jesus take us to level 5 (complete lockdown) now!”
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Highest ever daily case count here - 434, which I know is tiny compared to elsewhere.
Same sort of thing here - in the 600s - but when it was between zero and 9 daily throughout 2020, with post Christmas daily highs of 40 and as recently as July 2021 not a single active case in he province for several consecutive days (not just the absence of new ones), 600 daily is ENORMOUS.

Easy to say not serious but we have as many ICU beds used for covid as we've ever had in my city.
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Same sort of thing here - in the 600s - but when it was between zero and 9 daily throughout 2020, with post Christmas daily highs of 40 and as recently as July 2021 not a single active case in he province for several consecutive days (not just the absence of new ones), 600 daily is ENORMOUS.

Easy to say not serious but we have as many ICU beds used for covid as we've ever had in my city.
We are the same - numbers gone from 0 for most of year, to single digits through beginning of December (we opened state border at end of November), to over 2000 cases a day for the last couple of days.

We definitely have omicron.

ETA - population of South Australia is about 1.75 million for comparison.
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We definitely have omicron.
I'm waiting for it. Silly summer festival season here.
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It's the inconsistency that's bothering me.

Of course the UK advisors were all consulted last year in 2020 and their recommendations pretty much ignored so I don't think just because a government "does something" is because of advice. I mean Wales and Scotland must surely have the same batch of advisors as England but they've done different stuff. It's the same variant in most places but contrast England and Quebec with its curfew.

But mostly what bothers me most - and nobody seems to address this when I mention it - is from day one we were told there would be variants as the virus spreads. We have seen this come true. And now, apparently, we are somewhere between "not worrying" about Omicron and even encouraging its spread because it's like a cold.

How do we know that while it's spreading even more quickly that it's not mutating (and at a faster rate than others)? All the others have so why are we excluding that possibility for this one?

Is it like Doctor Who with a limit on regenerations or something like that?
And this came from the WHO regarding the latest rush to add booster shots in some countries.
World Health Organization officials on Wednesday criticized blanket Covid-19 vaccine booster programs as poor countries struggle to obtain initial doses, warning that the unequal access to immunizations could lead to more mutated variants that drag out the crisis.
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But mostly what bothers me most - and nobody seems to address this when I mention it - is from day one we were told there would be variants as the virus spreads. We have seen this come true. And now, apparently, we are somewhere between "not worrying" about Omicron and even encouraging its spread because it's like a cold.

How do we know that while it's spreading even more quickly that it's not mutating (and at a faster rate than others)? All the others have so why are we excluding that possibility for
It's a good point. I suppose mutations will be addressed as they arise. Unless there is a more lethal variant, it seems increasingly difficult for the authorities to deal with public fatigue, resistance and scepticism.
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And this came from the WHO regarding the latest rush to add booster shots in some countries.
World Health Organization officials on Wednesday criticized blanket Covid-19 vaccine booster programs as poor countries struggle to obtain initial doses, warning that the unequal access to immunizations could lead to more mutated variants that drag out the crisis.
yes well this annoys me that we’re all getting boosted/4th shots when there are places that struggle to get 1st doses. I have my booster scheduled tomorrow, my reluctance is growing and I’ll certainly be more reluctant if a 4th dose gets pushed out if there are still places that are struggling to get enough first doses.
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