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Old Sep 18th 2020, 5:50 pm
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The old lady goes for a short walk several times a day. Good for her...over 90 and walks every day, in all weather. She often returns carrying a carrier bag, so must have been shopping.
You should get her to shop for you instead of instacart
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Old Sep 18th 2020, 5:53 pm
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Knowing what I know from March & April regarding people panic buying unnecessary crap, I will be going back to a once every 2-3 week big food shopping trip over the winter and buying more canned food, big bag of rice, and large cuts of meat.

The winter of 2020/2021 in BC is either going to be a non event (like it has been all Summer), or a complete COVID nightmare. I don't think there will be an in-between.
Over the last few months I have been stocking up on several items. We have had a couple of mild winters, last year it barely snowed, so I am expecting this winter to be pretty brutal and of course there is Covid to consider.
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You should get her to shop for you instead of instacart
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Old Sep 18th 2020, 9:28 pm
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This made me chuckle.



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Old Sep 19th 2020, 3:03 pm
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Looks like there was someone getting around on the bus with their little microscopic friends... this could be a challenge for the contact tracers.

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Old Sep 19th 2020, 3:27 pm
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Yes, totally get you. All vulnerable people, including over 65's should get support in staying at home. I thought people with diabetes and other vulnerable to Covid already got that assitance!

If not, they should get it.

One thing is that, at least where I live, most people are not social distancing or wearing masks and now they have a new word for people like my husband and I who do stay at home. We have been called 'covidphobics' by our landlord and our neighbor becuse we wear masks in the narrow hall ways snd th stairway because it is impossible to social distance in the building. My neighbor sits on stairs in the hall and talks to everyone, she is a 40 year old well educated woman.

I'm seeing how we must all take our own protection very seriously and disregard whatever others think. It is impossible in my area for the government regulations to be regarded as sensible by most people, here anyway, people are being inconsistant and careless with their own health.
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Yes, totally get you. All vulnerable people, including over 65's should get support in staying at home. I thought people with diabetes and other vulnerable to Covid already got that assitance!

If not, they should get it.

One thing is that, at least where I live, most people are not social distancing or wearing masks and now they have a new word for people like my husband and I who do stay at home. We have been called 'covidphobics' by our landlord and our neighbor becuse we wear masks in the narrow hall ways snd th stairway because it is impossible to social distance in the building. My neighbor sits on stairs in the hall and talks to everyone, she is a 40 year old well educated woman.

I'm seeing how we must all take our own protection very seriously and disregard whatever others think. It is impossible in my area for the government regulations to be regarded as sensible by most people, here anyway, people are being inconsistant and careless with their own health.

Pandemic fatigue. At first people are willing to follow the rules, as times goes on less and less people are willing.

I don't think people get much help here in BC, your pretty much on your own, when I got tested the sheet they gave out on isolating if positive basically said, find a 3rd party to help you during the 14 days, like friend or family, so for those without friends, family it can be rough. We ended up being negative so it was only 24 hours, but insta cart suddenly no longer accepts our credit card, so we would be pretty up the creek if we ended up needing to isolate for 14 days without much warning, not sure how we would meet our needs during that time.....
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The Conservative leader has COVID, but is feeling well apparently.

From what I gather O'Toole met with Quebec Premier Francois Legault on Monday, and the Quebec Premier went on to meet with Ontario Premier Doug Ford, Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister, and Alberta Premier Jason Kenney in Ottawa on Friday.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/conservative-leader-erin-o-toole-tests-positive-for-covid-19-1.5111604

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Old Sep 19th 2020, 10:57 pm
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Yes, totally get you. All vulnerable people, including over 65's should get support in staying at home. I thought people with diabetes and other vulnerable to Covid already got that assitance!
This seems to vary a lot. There appear to be agencies for such things in the UK as well as general good samaritan types helping out.
Half of my household includes my MIL in her 80s and me 63 with (controlled) diabetes, (mostly) high blood pressure and kidney disease. There are no special arrangements made for us but we're managing with grocery delivery - with fees and higher than off the shelf prices - and taxis to medical appointments and the odd essential other shop if it can be combined with an appointment.

My stepson collects our prescriptions - but my pharmacy will deliver as part of their normal service, so I know that's available. I can also get them to include my diabetic supplies (needles, test strips etc) which I have to pay for (free in the UK normally, even without covid) but then I have to pay full cost whereas if I use a different pharmacy (that doesn't deliver) I can get a 20% senior's discount there.

My stepdaughter works in retail, with a public that takes advantage of her employer's store policy that merely wants people to wear masks but doesn't enforce it even though they do for staff. She really doesn't want to shop in her own time after being in that environment for work. Although she will if needs are great enough.

But all this is against a background of just one current case in our province of 780,000 people. It's almost non-existent here. We've had less than 200 cases in total, since the beginning.
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Old Sep 19th 2020, 11:39 pm
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Pandemic fatigue. At first people are willing to follow the rules, as times goes on less and less people are willing.

I don't think people get much help here in BC, your pretty much on your own, when I got tested the sheet they gave out on isolating if positive basically said, find a 3rd party to help you during the 14 days, like friend or family, so for those without friends, family it can be rough. We ended up being negative so it was only 24 hours, but insta cart suddenly no longer accepts our credit card, so we would be pretty up the creek if we ended up needing to isolate for 14 days without much warning, not sure how we would meet our needs during that time.....
I think you are right, its tough getting people on board for lengthy periods if there isn't any clear and precise direction from those that govern us. Jesus look at the shambles that has played out in the UK over the last few weeks, so many changes of direction. There was an article that someone on another forum linked to regarding the future weeks and months ahead and this "professor or scientist" (cannot remember his credentials) pretty much stated that even when a vaccine is found we will not be out of the woods and masks could still be required 2 years after a vaccine is made available. It's information like this that creates unrest amongst the population and rules start to get broken. The public at large want positive information, a light at the end of the tunnel. Clearly that isn't coming any time soon so as you say we get the fatigue setting in.
I think as much as most are against lock downs if the powers that be said "global lock down for 6 weeks then we are guaranteed to be COVID free" the majority would welcome such news regardless of the short term heartache.
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One place I don't want to be right now. I can't believe Blackpool is not in lockdown.
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Old Sep 20th 2020, 12:40 am
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One place I don't want to be right now. I can't believe Blackpool is not in lockdown.
Apparently the virus is not contagious after the pubs close at 10pm.

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Ontario just changed the rules...... no more than 10 people..

Changes to gathering limits

Due to the recent increase in cases and to ensure continued health and safety, there is a new limit on the number of people allowed to attend unmonitored social gatherings and organized public events across Ontario.

As of September 19, 2020, the new gathering limits are:
  • indoor events or gatherings: 10 people (previous limit of 50)
  • outdoor events or gatherings: 25 people (previous limit of 100)
Indoor and outdoor events and gatherings cannot be merged together.
https://www.ontario.ca/page/reopenin...hering-changes


Date New cases Change from last report
Sep 19 407 +1.50 %
Sep 18 401 +36.86 %
Sep 17 293 -6.98 %
Sep 16 315 +25.50 %


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I think you are right, its tough getting people on board for lengthy periods if there isn't any clear and precise direction from those that govern us. Jesus look at the shambles that has played out in the UK over the last few weeks, so many changes of direction. There was an article that someone on another forum linked to regarding the future weeks and months ahead and this "professor or scientist" (cannot remember his credentials) pretty much stated that even when a vaccine is found we will not be out of the woods and masks could still be required 2 years after a vaccine is made available. It's information like this that creates unrest amongst the population and rules start to get broken. The public at large want positive information, a light at the end of the tunnel. Clearly that isn't coming any time soon so as you say we get the fatigue setting in.
I think as much as most are against lock downs if the powers that be said "global lock down for 6 weeks then we are guaranteed to be COVID free" the majority would welcome such news regardless of the short term heartache.
I guess there's no easy answer. There's always going to be a difference of opinion on what's effective and what's now. Individual circumstances are so different. Certainly some mixed messaging going on, but I feel like going into Fall there is a general awareness of the risk and the need to take precautions. I don't think the media helps in this regard. They like to whip up contoversey and differing views. That's what pays their salaries. If there was a more consensual approach, perhaps there would be less confusion and less risk. If you contrast the way UK/US/Canada react to Corona, it is quite different to that of (East) Asia where there is a more collective approach.
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Apparently the virus is not contagious after the pubs close at 10pm.
Just a silly remark someone made which the press is using to generate interest. The reality is that reducing transmission period is an effective way to reduce transmission risk. If the point was made as "let's limit drinking time to 5 hours instead of 6 hours to reduce transmission opportunity" nobody would dispute it.
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