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Old Sep 22nd 2020, 11:22 pm
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My MIL went for a blood test at the hospital today. At screening there was a woman up close and the screener asked her to move back. She also told the woman she'd need a mask to come in.

"I don't need to, I'm not scared" was the reply.

Where has this woman been for the last 6 months?
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Old Sep 23rd 2020, 1:25 am
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Not sure I would want to be a teacher right now.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...race-1.5733700

Active cases down 522 in BC, new cases 96.

Almost all of the decline in active cases was in Vancouver Coastal Health

https://globalnews.ca/news/7351585/b...-september-22/

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Old Sep 23rd 2020, 1:26 am
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Here where I live in small town BC, the affects of a 3 week shutdown would be worse than one or two people dying from COVID. I know it sounds callous to say such a thing, but it's true for me.
Interior health has had very few COVID deaths, people get sick and they recover fine.

Seeing as how Canada is so spread out, if things spiral out of control in one area, I would be in favour of local lockdowns involving road blocks. Much like they did in Wuhan. Sounds harsh but it's better to piss off a few hundred thousand locals and not millions who live miles away.
And if I recall correctly the bulk of the Interior Health cases were in and around Kelowna, with not many elsewhere in the health authority.

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... it would stop those gaming the current rules.
"Gaming" is being unreasonably charitable IMO - I would say "flouting".
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Old Sep 23rd 2020, 3:52 pm
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And if I recall correctly the bulk of the Interior Health cases were in and around Kelowna, with not many elsewhere in the health authority.
The ones they had in Oliver came down from the first party in Kelowna.
In Finland, they're starting to use dogs to sniff out the virus at the main airport, (the UAE began using them in the summer).
https://globalnews.ca/news/7352860/c...-dogs-finland/
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Old Sep 23rd 2020, 7:16 pm
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The ones they had in Oliver came down from the first party in Kelowna.
In Finland, they're starting to use dogs to sniff out the virus at the main airport, (the UAE began using them in the summer).
https://globalnews.ca/news/7352860/c...-dogs-finland/
And that party wasn't it visitors from the lower mainland who brought it with them? I seem to recall anyhow it was linked to lower mainland visitors who initially spread it.

Fraser Health & Vancouver Health are certainly the hot spots, but of course they are both pretty large population wise when compared to every other health authority region.

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Not sure I would want to be a teacher right now.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...race-1.5733700

Active cases down 522 in BC, new cases 96.

Almost all of the decline in active cases was in Vancouver Coastal Health

https://globalnews.ca/news/7351585/b...-september-22/
I see your 96 new cases and raise you 6178 new cases in the UK. Ok, our population is about 13X larger, so adjusted we are 475...!!
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I see your 96 new cases and raise you 6178 new cases in the UK. !!
It really is about time the expression second wave was accepted as reality.

At the beginning of the month (on TIO's covid thread) I posted about how mid August new daily figures were running about 450 and then had quickly doubled, followed by a week later the UK kept posting new highest new case figures repeatedly as if there was a consistent new high. And that was around 2900.

Now the UK is announcing over 6000 which is 13 times that of mid August. Does 13 times not count as second wave?
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It really is about time the expression second wave was accepted as reality.

At the beginning of the month (on TIO's covid thread) I posted about how mid August new daily figures were running about 450 and then had quickly doubled, followed by a week later the UK kept posting new highest new case figures repeatedly as if there was a consistent new high. And that was around 2900.

Now the UK is announcing over 6000 which is 13 times that of mid August. Does 13 times not count as second wave?
Never mind the raw numbers - look at the graphs. The covid-19 pandemic has produced some wonderful curves and patterns, and it is both interesting that the data confirms to curves, but also a bit scary that the curves chart there own path - if you're on an up-curve it takes time to slow things down and level them off, and longer to turn them back down again.

Here is yesterday's UK chart from Worldometer, and with another 6,200 case today, the curve is clearly heading sharply higher, and given the slope of the curve it is pretty much inevitable that the numbers will reach 7,500 before there is an inflection point (lessening of the gradient of the curve) and an inflection point at 7,500 would still likely mean that daily infections in the UK will reach 10,000/day before they level off.



There's data for every country here, and each country has a page of date and graphs.

FWIW with India currently reporting around 90,000 new cases daily, and the US reprorting around 35,000 new cases daily, it appears that India will surpass the US at the top of the table in around 3-4 weeks, barring a major change in the number of new infections reported daily by one or both countries.

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It really is about time the expression second wave was accepted as reality.

At the beginning of the month (on TIO's covid thread) I posted about how mid August new daily figures were running about 450 and then had quickly doubled, followed by a week later the UK kept posting new highest new case figures repeatedly as if there was a consistent new high. And that was around 2900.

Now the UK is announcing over 6000 which is 13 times that of mid August. Does 13 times not count as second wave?
See post #1746

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86 new cases, but active cases dropped by 89.

Hospitalizations remaining stable, no new deaths.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7354301/b...-september-23/
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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
Never mind the raw numbers - look at the graphs. The covid-19 pandemic has produced some wonderful curves and patterns, and it is both interesting that the data confirms to curves, but also a bit scary that the curves chart there own path - if you're on an up-curve it takes time to slow things down and level them off, and longer to turn them back down again.

Here is yesterday's UK chart from Worldometer, and with another 6,200 case today, the curve is clearly heading sharply higher, and given the slope of the curve it is pretty much inevitable that the numbers will reach 7,500 before there is an inflection point (lessening of the gradient of the curve) and an inflection point at 7,500 would still likely mean that daily infections in the UK will reach 10,000/day before they level off.



There's data for every country here, and each country has a page of date and graphs.

FWIW with India currently reporting around 90,000 new cases daily, and the US reprorting around 35,000 new cases daily, it appears that India will surpass the US at the top of the table in around 3-4 weeks, barring a major change in the number of new infections reported daily by one or both countries.
Interesting that on last nights news at ten they were touting the "possible" outcome of 50,000 new case a day if left unchecked in UK according to some modelling, which we know can be pretty inaccurate sometimes yet they were predicting deaths could be up to 200 a day which is about a fifth of what they were during the height of the initial wave. So why are the death predictions much lower than previous with that infection figure?
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Interesting that on last nights news at ten they were touting the "possible" outcome of 50,000 new case a day if left unchecked in UK according to some modelling, which we know can be pretty inaccurate sometimes yet they were predicting deaths could be up to 200 a day which is about a fifth of what they were during the height of the initial wave. So why are the death predictions much lower than previous with that infection figure?
Among the reasons are:

[1] Better treaments have been developed, including use of dexamethasone, a corticosteroid, and a better understanding of when to use ventilators, of which there is now a plentiful supply
[2] Younger, otherwise healthier people are now the bulk of those catching the disease, so they don't get as sick, and are in less danger of dying
[3] The spread of the disease is better understood, and those that are most vulnerable are being better protected, so not catching the disease.
[4] The oldest and sickest have already died in the first wave.
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It is important to consider the rise in cases against the huge rise in number of tests. I suspect the real number of actual cases of infection earlier on in the pandemic was way, way higher than the number of "confirmed diagnosed" tests. Remember, the government did have an interest in keeping numbers low so as to appear in control. There were countless stories of people with suspected infections being denied tests.

Rather than a second wave, perhaps the testing & diagnosing is simply just beginning to reflect what was always the situation.
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It really is about time the expression second wave was accepted as reality.

At the beginning of the month (on TIO's covid thread) I posted about how mid August new daily figures were running about 450 and then had quickly doubled, followed by a week later the UK kept posting new highest new case figures repeatedly as if there was a consistent new high. And that was around 2900.

Now the UK is announcing over 6000 which is 13 times that of mid August. Does 13 times not count as second wave?
We seem to be at the base of the second wave. I suppose it depends on how many more days weeks the high (rising?) case count persists. It's clearly why the government has suddenly decided to tighten up rules on congregation and travel.
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