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Old Sep 24th 2020, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty View Post
It is important to consider the rise in cases against the huge rise in number of tests. I suspect the real number of actual cases of infection earlier on in the pandemic was way, way higher than the number of "confirmed diagnosed" tests. Remember, the government did have an interest in keeping numbers low so as to appear in control. There were countless stories of people with suspected infections being denied tests.

Rather than a second wave, perhaps the testing & diagnosing is simply just beginning to reflect what was always the situation.
That may or may not be the case regarding the April figures, but it's clear that the level of infections in September is rising rapidly on August. Eat out, back to work, off to Bournmout during a pandemic - who knew ?!! Whether the rise in infections is deemed a "wave" or not is less important than surpressing that rise. Ultimately, it's only the hispitalization and death figures which are accurate in assessing the extent of infection. From what they have been saying this week, hospitalizations are rising too.

Those sceptical of Coronavirus preventitive measures need only look to the USA: a masterclass in transmission.

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Old Sep 24th 2020, 5:17 pm
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It is important to consider the rise in cases against the huge rise in number of tests. I suspect the real number of actual cases of infection earlier on in the pandemic was way, way higher than the number of "confirmed diagnosed" tests. Remember, the government did have an interest in keeping numbers low so as to appear in control. There were countless stories of people with suspected infections being denied tests.

Rather than a second wave, perhaps the testing & diagnosing is simply just beginning to reflect what was always the situation.
I keep reading that people are having difficulty getting tested in the UK. It's quite hard to say either way, especially with those earlier reports that counted test kits sent out as tests made.

I don't doubt there has been an increase in tested since the earlier days but I'm not sure increased testing would account for the daily new case figures of 1000 in mid August rising to yesterday's 6000.
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Old Sep 25th 2020, 12:43 am
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"Gaming" is being unreasonably charitable IMO - I would say "flouting".
Thats another side to it, which will happen strict lockdown or not, unless it gets properly policed, but that would require a properly resourced police force.

I was more referring to those folk who have 3 kids so can't have another couple over for drinks on a friday night, but instead get a babysitter into the house, then go out to the pub with another 2 couples. all above board! but creating much more mixing. Not going to try and guess percentages but think a lot of folk won't really break the rules, but will push the workarounds not really thinking of the COVID impact just using the "but its allowed" reasoning.
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148 cases today in BC, goes up and down everyday.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...2020-1.5737823

2 additional deaths.

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Old Sep 25th 2020, 7:51 pm
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Time to start panic buying vitamin D3 supplements.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-find-12081132
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Old Sep 25th 2020, 8:38 pm
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Time to start panic buying vitamin D3 supplements.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-find-12081132
That's a bit late, the potential advantages were in the news several weeks ago. There are several reports back to June, perhaps earlier.
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That's a bit late, the potential advantages were in the news several weeks ago. There are several reports back to June, perhaps earlier.
Been taking 1000 iu daily for years, and have enough for about a year and a half in reserve. It's good for bone health and depression as well. Apparently vitamin K really boosts the benefits, but it's seems a bit costy so I haven't bought any.
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Old Sep 26th 2020, 4:06 pm
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Been taking 1000 iu daily for years, and have enough for about a year and a half in reserve. It's good for bone health and depression as well. Apparently vitamin K really boosts the benefits, but it's seems a bit costy so I haven't bought any.
I bought a 2 pack last night from Costco. Only $6.99 for 320 tabs in each bottle. Should last the Wife and I almost one year.
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Small outbreak in Kelowna linked to a church, only 4 cases so far it seems.

First faith based outbreak in Interior region.
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First faith based outbreak in Interior region.
They must be doing it right in the Sikh temples because that accounts for a lot of people in the southern OK, and so far no outbreaks.
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Old Sep 27th 2020, 11:55 am
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Heard the question about a third wave today ! CV could certainly be with us for some time by the sounds of things. There certainly seem to enough Covidiots about.
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Old Sep 27th 2020, 3:32 pm
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478 now, the numbers are steadily rising
491 cases announced for yesterday in Ontario.
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Old Sep 27th 2020, 5:03 pm
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.... think a lot of folk won't really break the rules, but will push the workarounds not really thinking of the COVID impact just using the "but its allowed" reasoning.
I agree. It was clear from the outset that the "rules" were not clearly explained and that most people (Canada, US, UK, and presumably all other countries) were not able to understand why the rules were in place, and that they were the barest minimum restrictions. While there are plenty of people who have no intention of following any pandemic rules, I think it was a mistake to issue "bare" rules, without accompanying explanations and guidance - distances greater than 6ft are preferred and that the minimum number of people should put themselves at risk.

It was obvious to me, that while 6ft was the prescribed measure for social distancing, that 10ft was better and 20ft better still, and that any errand that can be done alone should be, so going shopping as a couple or family should be avoided. And yet many people still seem to think that the requirement is "upto 6ft", not "at least 6ft", and I see plenty of couples and families out shopping. It also seems to be that people think that mask wearing is an alternative to social distancing, rather than providing additional protection and should be used primarily to enhance your protection not reduce physical separation.

I am still doing almost all the family shopping alone, shopping around 8am when the grocery is nearly empty. Mrs P made an experimental foray to Walmart a few weeks ago, and found the place to be chaotic, with little attention to social distancing and the mask rules widely flouted - including one man who entered just ahead of her who was told to wear and mask and given one to put on, who then just walked a few feet before removing it and throwing it on the floor. Mrs P has not been back to Walmart.

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Oh! If someone would declare "It's over. Just come out of home, Sunny things are waiting for you." Perhaps that will be the happiest event in my life. I always think when this pandemic Covid-19 will stop to take our lives and go back to hell? Wish you all a safe situation.
Academics may determine when the pandemic ended, using historic data, but in reality there won't be a sudden end, the numbers will decline, and the restrictions fade away, but it is likely that there will be periodic resurgences for years to come.

The lack of an effective vaccine and/or widespread reluctance to receive the vaccine, will delay the decline to low levels beyond what is already likely to be a minimum 1-2 years from today.

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If a vaccine is developed and works, will be interesting to see how government's give it.

To vaccine about 1/2 of the population in Canada in a year requires a rate of 1,583,333 per month. (estimate)

The government isn't likely to require it, and hard to say how many will get it.


Will they just have central vaccination points people drive through, or distribute through pharmacies and clinics like the flu shot and other vaccines......

Shall be interesting to see how its all done if the time comes.

Other then a vague 2021, who knows if/when a vaccine will be available in Canada anyhow, I have a feeling we wont be one of the first countries to receive it.
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