Tincture is expensive. The 2 bottles I found would have cost $80 each over the internet.

I would say that "And occasional use rather than daily." doesn't fit with CBD, it's very definitely not instant.

Now there, you might want to look at something with THC, it may not help with the pain, but it will distract you.

That from very, very old memories...

Watch out for Cannabis-induced psychosis.

Some on NB were $36 (30 ml) and up.. Maybe just a case of discovering whether there's more doses from that than the gummies (or capsules)?
I looked at a bunch of reviews on different sites and my conclusion was very much quick working. I would guess it depended on the dose and the pain level. Presumably the delivery means too.

If there was a criticism in the reviews I saw it was that they didn't notice the high. Hardly surprising with zero or tiny THC

That I find a bit odd. Although (in addition to the two points you mention), it would also depend on an agreed understanding of the term "quick working". I'll look to see if I can dig out an English language "user guide" sent by my Dutch CBD suppliers, but they were saying multiple days before experiencing any benefit in pain reduction.

Journalists hah?

Love 'em or hate 'em, you sure can't trust 'em.

One said 30 minutes and someone else said he "fell asleep before his show finished"

This is perhaps the key though. If you have arthritis or some other constant - or at least mostly present - pain, then it may well need building up to the right level of dose to see any benefit.

If it's like me, only once in a while and well short of agony, a quick dose may well do the trick. A bit like Ibuprofen is good for a sudden, occasional headache but useless for a full blown migraine.

Then said reviewing people were on about the THC effect, not that of CBD, for sure.

I had been relying on Ibu and similar for pain relief for a couple of years; when I got to the correct CBD dosage I was able to stop with Ibu and friends and my whole digestive system got a whole lot better. Win-win.

The product though was advertised as 10mg CBD and zero THC. Although I did see a label on one of the zero THC that had something like 0.34 or whatever tiny amount.

Aren't you supposed to get high or at least mellow on the THC rather than fall asleep quickly?

THC can help me sleep, doesn't make me sleepy exactly but mellows me out and relaxes me where I can sleep better.

Seems 10mg is about what I need to feel a high of sorts, for not using pot in years, I thought a lower dose would work....lol

I use cannabis to help me sleep, but i got so fed up with the inconsistences in strength from the govt store that i decided to make my own. I get high thc Indica strains that are aprox 28% from "my man" and i make infused coconut oil using the crock pot, and a tincture using 100% Everclear. i find both equally as good. i usually get 1/4 lb and use half for each. Both can be stored in the freezer until needed. i make the coconut oil into pieces the size of cadburys buttons (the small ones!!) keep a couple of dozen in the fridge (so they dont turn to liquid) put the rest in the freezer. I use the tincture when i am travelling as it does not need to be kept cold as does the coconut oil. Both are so easy to make, the tincture takes about an hour to decarb the weed then into a mason jar with the everclear pop it in the freezer shake it up every day and its ready to consume in 3 weeks, the longer you leave it the stronger it gets. The coconut oil takes about 24 hours in the crock pot (after decarb) on low and is ready to use straight away. The govt store is a rip off on quality and price, and their packaging is way OTT but that is just the opinion of an old Pot Crock.

From your 'cook' method I think you need an avatar.

I can't say I understand much of what you are describing here, but - I wish I lived near you because I would happily pay you a good sum to supply me!

Legitimate Business-man's Pharmacy; still haven't been in a government store. I make cookies out of the ABV (already been vaped) material left from using my dry herb vaporizer using about a gram per cookie to displace flour, so a finely screened weight ounce in a batch works. The problem I encounter is I can't bake 2 dozen cookies without eating 6, and that's about 4 too many.

Th stuff I use has instructions on how to build up the dose each day, it definitely takes a few days to get any real effects. Certainly not an instant painkiller to just be taken occasionally.

Done some more research and currently reading about CBD in relation to neuropathic pain and how different forms of CBD (possibly with THC) are relevant according to the individual's pattern of pain.

For occasional, sudden onset I'm reading that the dose needs to be in response to attack rather than preventative, with the specific recommendation that a vaporizer is best (followed by absorption - spray or drop under tongue) as inhaled CBD takes effect within a minute or two while ingested takes 30 to 90 minutes but is longer lasting.