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Re: Why is everyone so serious ?

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9574215)

Well I'm still cold. Just got off the phone from a friend in the UK. She's cold as well. However, it's winter here and summer there so mustn't grumble. Not much anyway. :lol:

I'm over it too! Not that it's been bad, but warmer weather would be very welcome. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9574132)

So is ours. I have a hot wheat pad on my lap. I'm fricking cold. :frown: :D Hey, at least our water tank is nearly full :thumbsup:

When did it fill up? :confused:

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Originally Posted by paulry (Post 9573820)

Maybe the part of the UK that I lived was very different to some other posters here? Or maybe my experience was just different because of other factors? Or maybe the Australia that I've settled in is different? All I know is the place I left versus the place that I've arrived at is a huge improvement. My kids no longer have to look over their shoulders and venture outdoors with their fists clenched and their hackles up. There's no visible gang culture here. Everything is clean, bright and nice (could do with less graffiti though but even that gets quickly washed away). Everyone's friendly, relaxed and well-mannered.

The daft suggestions from some that if you saw things wrong with the UK then you aint ganna settle easily here is a load of bollocks. As is the yet to be seen British moan-about-home-ers turned benefits scroungers. Every British migrant that I know is either working/owning a business or pulling out all the stops to do the same.

I hated living in my part of the UK, couldn't wait to leave. The place is just awful and certainly not anywhere I wanted my kids to bring their kids up in. Crime is high, and prospects are really bad.

I love living here though and would never go back - not even for a holiday after the last one.

I know that not all of the UK is the same, but we could never afford a move within the UK. We just couldn't find a job that paid enough to cover the extra cost of living. Moving 12,000k was strangely more affordable :confused:

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Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 9573876)

I'd like to think it was me but it isn't.

:lol:

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9574030)

That one is right up there with schoolkids cant celebrate Christmas. There are plenty of people every year that celebrate St Georges Day and because the Daily Mail gives us a shock horror story of some bloke in Scunthorpe accused of racism for flying the flag it doesn't make it anymore than it is, an isolated incident.

Christmas is very low key in Bradford. The only signs you will see all say "Happy Holidays" Been like that for a long time come to think of it. I know the shop next door to where I worked refused to even sell Xmas cards.

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9574035)

Or better still those that find happiness here ( I am truly happy for them) and then make excuses for all the thing here that they hated about the UK. Somehow they are OK here. :)

I can earn more here that I could in the UK, so I can afford to live in a better area. Plus the only thing I really hated about the UK is the snow - don't get that here :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9574094)

Why is it so fricking cold?????? It's nearly Spring, it shouldn't be this cold. Agghhhhhh.

Sorry but I was over this nonsense, thought I'd change the subject.;)

It's been lovely here today....for a change :D

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Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 9574230)

How the **** did you deduce from my post that it was a one-off? It was a mid-week happening; I can only imagine what Fridays and Saturdays are like.

I've been in A&E late on a Friday night in Bradford, mate - you don't need to tell me what the UK's like :rofl:

(Trust me all of these are kindergarten compared to Downtown New York, where I once had the misfortune to spend most of my weekend in A&E on a drip. Armed guards on the doors.)

You can't wait to get out of Grimsby, I can certainly understand that.

I can't knock the hospital in Bradford, they really looked after both my Mum and Dad in their final weeks.

Glad I never had to spend a Friday or Saturday night in A&E though :eek:

Re: Why is everyone so serious ?

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Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 9574262)

I'm over it too! Not that it's been bad, but warmer weather would be very welcome. :thumbup:

When did it fill up? :confused:

The last 36 hours. It was about 2 foot from the bottom, now it's over 3/4s full. We've had a lot of wet stuff. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9574196)

EVERY Friday and Saturday a police van with cctv stands guard just in case, this is life in most UK towns not cities, the majority of hospitals in the UK have to have a police presence on the A&E dept on a weekend

What do you think is different here?:confused:

A & E departments have security guards or police.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make

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cos we is like, clevererest, innit. :cool:

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I think he may become one of the immigrants I mentioned elsewhere who will make excuses or just ignore the same things here he hated in the UK. It's all about justification.

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Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 9574334)

What do you think is different here?:confused:

A & E departments have security guards or police.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9574349)

I think he may become one of the immigrants I mentioned elsewhere who will make excuses or just ignore the same things here he hated in the UK. It's all about justification.

I think he will be one of those whinging poms. All he ever does is whinge as far as I can tell, not seen a single post that is not a whinge to be honest. He has been whinging for weeks about horrible Australians not giving him job over here whilst he still sits in the UK. :rolleyes: It is kind of funny (peculiar) that somebody who whinges this much can actually complain about others being "negative". :D

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Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9574196)

WOW I would never had thought it would happen in a big city like Sidney:rofl: and this sounds like a one off,
In the UK this happens even in the small towns like Doncaster, Hartlepool,Blackpool, Grimsby Thetford and this is regular, the place I live Grimsby, certain parts of the town EVERY Friday and Saturday a police van with cctv stands guard just in case, this is life in most UK towns not cities, the majority of hospitals in the UK have to have a police presence on the A&E dept on a weekend

If you live in Grimsby, things are becoming clearer;). I can remember standing in a taxi queue near Grimsby Town station, having to quickly move out of the way while a couple of drunks were thrown out of the pub alongside the queue:lol:. Grimsby has always been a bit of a rough town, with a very conservative population.

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Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 9574429)

I once spent a week in Grimsby, staying in a pub my ex (then boyfriend, later husband) was working in to help out some mates who were doing relief work there.

Both of us were goths at the time - went down well, I can tell you :rofl:

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Right, I'm off out to walk the dog. I have my full body armour on as I go onto the mean streets of Dorset.
I may not make it back alive :blink:
:lol:

Yes, there are some problems in the UK that need to be sorted out. There are definitely some areas in some cities that I would not choose to live in. I lived in Mile End / Whitechapel for a while in the 90's and that was a sh**hole even then :eek:
However, there are plenty of other places that are great for bringing up families etc.

Of course it makes a huge difference to the way you view things if you can move from a rough part of the UK to a decent part of Australia. Or vice versa.
It also makes a huge difference if you make or lose money going either way due to the exchange rate.

Personally, I think I could be reasonably happy in either country because I choose to focus on what's good rather than what's bad.

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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 9574213)

I have no idea what A&E is like in Sydney at the weekend or even during the week, but neither do you. You are picking out the worst aspects of life in UK and just jumping to the conclusion that same or similar could never happen in Australia simply because it is Australia and the land of milk and honey. Honestly, your posts are absurd.

I have never needed to go to A&E on a Saturday night in either country, how come this is such a major problem for you that it features on your list of reasons to escape the UK.

I think if you read some of the other post who still LIVE in the UK , you will see that a lot of what I am saying is true, or are they all wrong as well, strange how a person living so far away knows more about the UK then people actually living there,
I admit I do not know a great deal about Australia that's why I come on this site, to find out where to look for work, cheap places to live, instead all I get is that I am expecting too much, got news for you I am not expecting anything. The one thing I do remember about Brisbane, leaving a bar walking through the city centre, early morning just as the clubs/pubs was kicking out and there was hardly any police presence there, and no sign of any trouble, and this from a major city,and this was the case nearly all the time I was there.

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Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9574503)

I think if you read some of the other post who still LIVE in the UK , you will see that a lot of what I am saying is true, or are they all wrong as well, strange how a person living so far away knows more about the UK then people actually living there,
I admit I do not know a great deal about Australia that's why I come on this site, to find out where to look for work, cheap places to live, instead all I get is that I am expecting too much, got news for you I am not expecting anything. The one thing I do remember about Brisbane, leaving a bar walking through the city centre, early morning just as the clubs/pubs was kicking out and there was hardly any police presence there, and no sign of any trouble, and this from a major city,and this was the case nearly all the time I was there.

Irony, right there. Good luck to you. Hope it works out for you.

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Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9574503)

Lucky you. There are some areas of Brisbane I would definitely not walk through at club kicking out time -just as back home there are areas of Brighton that I treat in the same way.

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Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9574503)

If you went out in the Valley in Brisbane you'd see police everywhere. The night buses home have security guards on board - and from my experiences they're needed too.

When you move to Australia you don't lose all contact with people who live in the UK you know. Many people I know express no concerns about their personal safety - including Australian friends who live in W London and regularly experience going out in both countries. In fact one of them claims to find Melbourne more worrying.

We get the message - it's grim where you live - but it isn't everywhere.

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Originally Posted by GARRYP1302 (Post 9574503)

I live in the UK, Garry, and I don't view things the same way you do. To be fair, I don't live in Grimsby and that may make a difference. There are certainly parts of the UK that I wouldn't want to live in - so I don't.
I went to some towns in Australia that I wouldn't live in either :eek:

Equally, I have been to places in both countries that I'm sure I would be very happy to live in.

I'm not blind to the U.K's problems, I just know that all westernised societies have them in one form or another.

I hope you do find somewhere that ticks all your boxes in Australia. If you know what it is you want out of life and you do your research then you are half way there.

I'm fairly sure I could be happy in Brisbane (or elsewhere in Australia) if I could be sure that my OH and I could get work. Recent threads on here have suggested that may not be the case though, and that is a worry when we both have reasonable secure jobs here.