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Nope, not having it.
If the Irish can claim anybody who drinks Guinness and owns a wolf hound as an Irishman, and the Aussies claim anybody who can spell Qantas in under four attempts as Australian, I'm claiming ACDC as Brits.... whether they bloody like it or not.
If the Irish can claim anybody who drinks Guinness and owns a wolf hound as an Irishman, and the Aussies claim anybody who can spell Qantas in under four attempts as Australian, I'm claiming ACDC as Brits.... whether they bloody like it or not.



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Been through this before. They spent their formative years here and are completely Australian and consider themselves as such. Ditto Nicole Kidman.
If you insist on birthplace=nationality, none of the following are British;
Sir Ben Kingsley
Joanna Lumley
Sir Cliff Richard
George Orwell
Rudyard Kipling
Freddy Mercury and a great many others.
This is a pointless argument. You are what you want to be.
If you insist on birthplace=nationality, none of the following are British;
Sir Ben Kingsley
Joanna Lumley
Sir Cliff Richard
George Orwell
Rudyard Kipling
Freddy Mercury and a great many others.
This is a pointless argument. You are what you want to be.
The lead singer Brian Johnson is English and lives in the US (how is that Australian?)
Correct me if I am wrong but all of the people you have listed were either born in the British Empire to British parents or born in Britain to foreign parents. Surely this makes them British anyway?!
Not quite the same as ACDC.

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I was only having a laugh. Must have touched a nerve.
The lead singer Brian Johnson is English and lives in the US (how is that Australian?)
Correct me if I am wrong but all of the people you have listed were either born in the British Empire to British parents or born in Britain to foreign parents. Surely this makes them British anyway?!
Not quite the same as ACDC.
The lead singer Brian Johnson is English and lives in the US (how is that Australian?)
Correct me if I am wrong but all of the people you have listed were either born in the British Empire to British parents or born in Britain to foreign parents. Surely this makes them British anyway?!
Not quite the same as ACDC.
Why would it touch a nerve with me, I'm British, born and bred?

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Kingsley wasn't. The rest were born in the British Empire though.

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You're right about Kingsley, memory is not a good thing....So another country then for the rest and many more.
Again you move from the point that you are from what ever country you want to be from if you have a claim to citizenship. It is an utterly pointless debate without involving the people you are discussing.
Again you move from the point that you are from what ever country you want to be from if you have a claim to citizenship. It is an utterly pointless debate without involving the people you are discussing.
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Rolph Harris is an Aussie , but I like him he is a British Icon,
Whenever I see him interviewed he always speaks well about old Blighty.
And yet we accept him as Australian , we don't try to change him.
So why did that boxer have to become "Aussie Joe" ??
The English just give away their heritage to easily ..... why would you want to be a poor old pom, better to be a proud Englishman I say !!

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Rolph Harris is an Aussie , but I like him he is a British Icon,
Whenever I see him interviewed he always speaks well about old Blighty.
And yet we accept him as Australian , we don't try to change him.
So why did that boxer have to become "Aussie Joe" ??
The English just give away their heritage to easily ..... why would you want to be a poor old pom, better to be a proud Englishman I say !!
Whenever I see him interviewed he always speaks well about old Blighty.
And yet we accept him as Australian , we don't try to change him.
So why did that boxer have to become "Aussie Joe" ??
The English just give away their heritage to easily ..... why would you want to be a poor old pom, better to be a proud Englishman I say !!
The Aussie need to self promote and big themselves up is very simple and not at all arrogant or sinister. I recognise it in my countrymen ( and my Chihuahua), underdog, chip on the shoulder, inferiority complex, call it what you will. You have to puff your chest out and make yourself a bit bigger, it's instinctive. You are unaware of it. It could equally be said that some English have a similar superiority complex, bred in through generations of achievement and power as one of the greatest nations on earth, from centuries back to today.
Most of the people of the places mentioned would strongly dispute this, but that is the point. It's just there. Bred in.

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Australia has a lot of culture, if you are that way inclined there are many, many cultural pursuits to partake of here, art and drama classes etc There is thriving music scene. They celebrate their own special evets {ie ANZAC day service} they have their own sporting code, Aussie Rules. There are museums everywhere - well in the main cities but even in small towns. I find this argument of "Australia has no culture" to be drivel.
