Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Oct 5th 2009, 9:20 pm
#183
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
I think one thing you could look at, you should be proud at the country for pretty much inventing modern democracy. You guys have drawn up the Magna Carta, the first country post ancient times to modernize their political system by reducing the king's powers and delegating some to Parliament, etc. I give my thanks to England for giving the world modern democracy
Oct 5th 2009, 9:24 pm
#185
WTF?
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Erm ... are you aware that patriotism is taught and not inherent? There is nothing weird about her POV. It certainly isn't any weirder than yours.
Oct 5th 2009, 9:24 pm
#186
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Met a few British people on travels of mine, and they all said that England is being stolen from them by the insane PC mentality, especially in regards to immigrants, especially Muslim immigrants. Look at the Luton protests when the British soldiers came home. It's on youtube.
Oct 5th 2009, 9:25 pm
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Oct 5th 2009, 9:28 pm
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Met a few British people on travels of mine, and they all said that England is being stolen from them by the insane PC mentality, especially in regards to immigrants, especially Muslim immigrants. Look at the Luton protests when the British soldiers came home. It's on youtube.
Oct 5th 2009, 9:30 pm
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WTF?
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Learning can be done through observation of surroundings. You were obviously socialized in such a way that taught you to be patriotic/nationalistic. It's not a criticism - I am the same. I'm just saying that you are out of order for your assertion that N1cky should feel as if there is something wrong with her (or her home country) because she doesn't possess those same traits.
Oct 5th 2009, 9:31 pm
#191
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
There is nothing I don't like about England (well I'm sure if I thought hard enough there would be something). I love England and would be more than happy to go back, I just don't get how I can be proud of a nationality that is mine through luck.
I feel like I am missing something here, why are people proud to be English/American...?
Oct 5th 2009, 9:32 pm
#192
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
I guess for me it's the opposite then. Obviously growing up here, it's kinda hard to not be patriotic, with the Pledge of Allegiance and all, and how our classes are conducted and such
Oct 5th 2009, 9:33 pm
#193
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
Met a few British people on travels of mine, and they all said that England is being stolen from them by the insane PC mentality, especially in regards to immigrants, especially Muslim immigrants. Look at the Luton protests when the British soldiers came home. It's on youtube.
Oct 5th 2009, 9:35 pm
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Re: Is the US still a dream worth pursuing?
but being proud to be American? Well I would have to say like I did in my previous post, the Pledge, our history, and accomplishments like space, and other things. We just feel that we've done a lot more than other nations and feel we should be proud of it, and from a young age, they teach you from school, and the TV, that you should be proud of living here. Our history classes here are always infused with some patriotism. I guess that's why people here are proud to be American