Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Feb 4th 2006, 4:55 am
#166
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 30,102
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Going a bit OT, has anyone noticed the new Customs and Border patrol ads on the TV?
Feb 4th 2006, 4:59 am
#167
Thinking about it
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: Mid-West
Posts: 9,435
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Going a bit OT, has anyone noticed the new Customs and Border patrol ads on the TV?
Feb 4th 2006, 5:00 am
#168
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 30,102
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
Nope - any good ??
Feb 4th 2006, 5:01 am
#169
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 73,177
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
True, but why if the UK has plenty of citizens capable of commiting serious crimes should it admit even more criminals. Defending law-breaking asylum seekers because some brits also break the law is hardly a great way to justify anything, is it ???
I really can't see how you can defend your stance on this matter, unless that is you disagree with many of the opinions expresssed on here simply because they would be perceived as being right wing, and not judging them on their own merits.
I really can't see how you can defend your stance on this matter, unless that is you disagree with many of the opinions expresssed on here simply because they would be perceived as being right wing, and not judging them on their own merits.
What is my stance, according to you?
Show me where I have defended anyone who breaks the law, wherever they come from.
What I said was that a) the "immigrant problem" is blown out of proportion for political purposes and b) that the causes and sources of illegal immigration are not always honestly or correctly described, let alone tackled. If you have evidence to refute that argument, I would be genuinely interested to see it.
Here, for example, is a complicating example of how illegal immigration and economic matters play together.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...143543,00.html
Feb 4th 2006, 5:01 am
#170
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 73,177
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
Going a bit OT, has anyone noticed the new Customs and Border patrol ads on the TV?
They have to advertise for smugglers now?
Feb 4th 2006, 5:05 am
#171
Thinking about it
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: Mid-West
Posts: 9,435
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
very gung ho
Feb 4th 2006, 5:06 am
#172
Account Closed
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 8,271
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
What is my stance, according to you?
Show me where I have defended anyone who breaks the law, wherever they come from.
What I said was that a) the "immigrant problem" is blown out of proportion for political purposes and b) that the causes and sources of illegal immigration are not always honestly or correctly described, let alone tackled. If you have evidence to refute that argument, I would be genuinely interested to see it.
Here, for example, is a complicating example of how illegal immigration and economic matters play together.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...143543,00.html
Show me where I have defended anyone who breaks the law, wherever they come from.
What I said was that a) the "immigrant problem" is blown out of proportion for political purposes and b) that the causes and sources of illegal immigration are not always honestly or correctly described, let alone tackled. If you have evidence to refute that argument, I would be genuinely interested to see it.
Here, for example, is a complicating example of how illegal immigration and economic matters play together.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...143543,00.html
I have to ask, do you really believe everything as written in the Gaurdian?
Feb 4th 2006, 5:07 am
#173
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 73,177
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
I have to ask, do you really believe everything as written in the Gaurdian?
Feb 4th 2006, 5:07 am
#174
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 30,102
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
Hmm gruff, that surprizes me
Feb 4th 2006, 5:09 am
#175
Thinking about it
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: Mid-West
Posts: 9,435
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
What is my stance, according to you?
Show me where I have defended anyone who breaks the law, wherever they come from.
What I said was that a) the "immigrant problem" is blown out of proportion for political purposes and b) that the causes and sources of illegal immigration are not always honestly or correctly described, let alone tackled. If you have evidence to refute that argument, I would be genuinely interested to see it.
Here, for example, is a complicating example of how illegal immigration and economic matters play together.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...143543,00.html
Show me where I have defended anyone who breaks the law, wherever they come from.
What I said was that a) the "immigrant problem" is blown out of proportion for political purposes and b) that the causes and sources of illegal immigration are not always honestly or correctly described, let alone tackled. If you have evidence to refute that argument, I would be genuinely interested to see it.
Here, for example, is a complicating example of how illegal immigration and economic matters play together.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...143543,00.html
You are attempting to put forward the argument that things are being blown out of all proportion, you produce the evidence. Oh, and just because something is blown out of proportion doesn't mean that it isn't an issue in the first place.
Err, the Guardian - hardly a neutral publication
Feb 4th 2006, 5:09 am
#176
Thinking about it
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: Mid-West
Posts: 9,435
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
Do you believe everything written in the Telegraph?
Feb 4th 2006, 5:10 am
#177
Thinking about it
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: Mid-West
Posts: 9,435
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by gruffbrown
It's a generic Marines/army/airforce/coastguard/CBP commercial, standing on a mountain backdropped by a sunset......you get the idea?
Feb 4th 2006, 5:12 am
#178
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 30,102
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
Don't disappoint me now Gruff - was there a stars and stripes or an eagle to be seen ??
Feb 4th 2006, 5:14 am
#179
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 73,177
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
[QUOTE]
Show me where please.
What statement? Show me.
I'm the only one who had to support my position? I didn't realise that differing positions were exempt, I'm sorry. When I've had my shower I will wallow in Google for you.
Er, no. It means it's blown out of all proportion, which is what I said. We seem to be in agreement here then.
Of course it isn't. No more are The Sun, The Daily Mirror, The Daily Telegraph, The Times, etc. etc. etc. The trick is to gather all the information one can and then analyse it.
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
You have attempted to excuse law-breaking asylum seekers by stating that UK residents also comit crime.
If you weren't attempting to excuse law-breaking asylum seekers by making this statement
You are attempting to put forward the argument that things are being blown out of all proportion, you produce the evidence.
Oh, and just because something is blown out of proportion doesn't mean that it isn't an issue in the first place.
Err, the Guardian - hardly a neutral publication
Feb 4th 2006, 5:16 am
#180
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: East Seaxe
Posts: 73,177
Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
I can't speak for AWP, but i don't read the telegraph or the mail, I like to form my own opinions.
Excellent. How do you gather the information that informs your opinions?
