Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Feb 3rd 2006, 3:56 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by snowbunny
Once they get in and have been put on benefits and not allowed to work for a while.... and then find that it's hard to get work without prior experience etc ....
If you have a political asylum programme it will be abused by those who cannot make a living in their home country. There are also plenty of citizens who lounge on the dole as well. I wonder what the ratio is?
These are all questions the US faced a long time ago and the de facto answer was to allow everyone in who was willing to come in undocumented, work for cheap, be victimised, and subject to deportation at any time.
If you have a political asylum programme it will be abused by those who cannot make a living in their home country. There are also plenty of citizens who lounge on the dole as well. I wonder what the ratio is?
These are all questions the US faced a long time ago and the de facto answer was to allow everyone in who was willing to come in undocumented, work for cheap, be victimised, and subject to deportation at any time.
A lot of albanians for example come to the UK to collect benefits and import young eastern european girls who they buy and sell to each other and pimp out. In Belfast, my home town gangs of Albanian and Romanian gypsies take the train up from Dublin each day to beg on the streets, often with their young children. They make enough from begging to be able to afford to take a $20 train ride every day ffs. They add nothing to the country and need to be sent back from whence they came.
The US has not faced such problems before and that is a fact.
Feb 3rd 2006, 4:04 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
The US has not faced such problems before and that is a fact.
However, sexual exploitation of illegal aliens is rampant.
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/USA.htm
Any time you have illegal aliens they are subject to more exploitation. Now, these kids and women are working pretty f'ing hard wouldn't you say?
I think we are agreed on the fact that law enforcement should do a better job of keeping the scum out, but as long as there are open borders and round-the-world flights, it's a pretty daunting job.
The only difference between the US and the UK is that there are NO asylum programmes and NO bennies/dole.
Feb 3rd 2006, 4:08 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
You can claim AQsylum in the US.
Assylum is an idea whose time has passed.
Has anybody added Jack Straw to the list, just been looking at BBC news and he must make the top 3.
Assylum is an idea whose time has passed.
Has anybody added Jack Straw to the list, just been looking at BBC news and he must make the top 3.
Feb 3rd 2006, 4:10 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by snowbunny
You can't claim refugee status here. That's partly why.
However, sexual exploitation of illegal aliens is rampant.
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/USA.htm
Any time you have illegal aliens they are subject to more exploitation. Now, these kids and women are working pretty f'ing hard wouldn't you say?
I think we are agreed on the fact that law enforcement should do a better job of keeping the scum out, but as long as there are open borders and round-the-world flights, it's a pretty daunting job.
The only difference between the US and the UK is that there are NO asylum programmes and NO bennies/dole.
However, sexual exploitation of illegal aliens is rampant.
http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/USA.htm
Any time you have illegal aliens they are subject to more exploitation. Now, these kids and women are working pretty f'ing hard wouldn't you say?
I think we are agreed on the fact that law enforcement should do a better job of keeping the scum out, but as long as there are open borders and round-the-world flights, it's a pretty daunting job.
The only difference between the US and the UK is that there are NO asylum programmes and NO bennies/dole.
But, the people I have a problem with are the illegals who are exploiting my country.
I think we more or less agree so I'll move onto another thread and make fun of people's pics now
Feb 3rd 2006, 4:12 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
They want to get something for nothing and steal benefit payments from the British state, and you can't blame them ??? 
You've completely missed the point here - a lot of them get in and do not work. How about this as an option - the asylum system that the UK currently his isn't scrapped, but its run as it was intended to be with out the interference of human rights groups and scumbag lawyers.
You've completely missed the point here - a lot of them get in and do not work. How about this as an option - the asylum system that the UK currently his isn't scrapped, but its run as it was intended to be with out the interference of human rights groups and scumbag lawyers.
Bloody simple really.
Feb 3rd 2006, 4:15 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by rushman
Failing that, the UK Home Office could nip down to W.H Smiths and buy a big world atlas poster and then highlight all the countries in red that have oppressive regimes and that they would consider it's citizens Asylum. Anyone else that jumps off of a truck at Dover from a NON RED country get f**ked off where they came from.
Bloody simple really.
Bloody simple really.
Feb 3rd 2006, 4:15 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by snowbunny
That was my point. Perhaps there's less starvation in Albania but it has been a war zone. .
I'm not against genuine Asylum but when there's no longer a need for it then there's also no need for them to stay.
Feb 3rd 2006, 4:16 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by Boiler
France?
Feb 3rd 2006, 4:17 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by rushman
What about France?
Feb 3rd 2006, 5:25 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by rushman
What about France?
Or Belgium.
Which is undestandable.
PS How many years will it be before the it will be decidedly un PC to use the term Assylum Seeker. I guess they need a replacement word first.
Feb 3rd 2006, 5:27 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by Boiler
PS How many years will it be before the it will be decidedly un PC to use the term Assylum Seeker. I guess they need a replacement word first.
Feb 3rd 2006, 5:30 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
Or poverty, lack of education and the decline of manufacturing industry in the UK perhaps ??
You see if something is wrong people will always want to blame someone but themselves, and if a large group of 'different' looking punters suddenly decamps on your doorstep then you have a ready made excuse and focus for your anger.
Add that to the fact that if you are unemployed that you may well lie about on your arse quite a bit - well then you'll need to do something to burn off that excess energy and add a bit of excitement to your life. Its a dangerous combination.
You see if something is wrong people will always want to blame someone but themselves, and if a large group of 'different' looking punters suddenly decamps on your doorstep then you have a ready made excuse and focus for your anger.
Add that to the fact that if you are unemployed that you may well lie about on your arse quite a bit - well then you'll need to do something to burn off that excess energy and add a bit of excitement to your life. Its a dangerous combination.
Feb 3rd 2006, 6:03 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by tony_2003
Presumably there are a lot of geniuses lying about on their arses claiming dole money as well. Shame we don't tap into that.
oh look here's the next Einstein coming to save the UK now
funny, still cant see any women or kids with them.FFS
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Feb 3rd 2006, 6:16 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Originally Posted by rushman
well thank god the brain drain is over because of the influx of rocket scientists from such educational utopia's as............er...........hmmmm.........Albania, Kosovo, Sudan, Iran, Iraq
Bet they'd get visas.
As to the Sudan -- nearly everyone from there could legitimately seek asylum. It's Rwanda all over again and while everyone got outraged at "Hotel Rwanda" where are the visas for the Sudanese?
Maybe we have to wait until the Katrina refugees leave their FEMA trailers, then we'll be ready for the next load of incoming.
Feb 4th 2006, 3:49 am
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Re: Are These The Most Loathsome Men In Britain?
Compare and contrast the authorities handling of the 2 BNP goons with...
There were sporadic clashes with passers-by over chants praising the four British-born suicide bombers who killed 52 passengers on three Underground trains and a London bus last July 7.
People who tried to snatch away what they regarded as offending placards were held back by police. Several members of the public tackled senior police officers guarding the protesters, demanding to know why they allowed banners that praised the “Magnificent 19” — the terrorists who hijacked the aircrafts used on September 11, 2001 — and others threatening further attacks on London.
The officers said that their role was to ensure public order and safety. Police had closed off main roads to allow the procession a clear route. Protesters screamed: “UK, you must pray — 7/7 is on its way.”
People who tried to snatch away what they regarded as offending placards were held back by police. Several members of the public tackled senior police officers guarding the protesters, demanding to know why they allowed banners that praised the “Magnificent 19” — the terrorists who hijacked the aircrafts used on September 11, 2001 — and others threatening further attacks on London.
The officers said that their role was to ensure public order and safety. Police had closed off main roads to allow the procession a clear route. Protesters screamed: “UK, you must pray — 7/7 is on its way.”
