Steve_

The issue is that various States have recently abolished the requirement to have a permit to carry. It used to be called "Vermont carry" because Vermont has never had a permit requirement but now it's called "constitutional carry" although no court has ever ruled a permit requirement unconstitutional.

Nearly all of the States that allow it are rural, with the exception of Arizona.

Also it varies from State to State, some of them, like Wyoming and Maine, only allow it for residents of the State, but most of them, like Arizona and New Hampshire allow anyone to carry without a permit.

The NRA has been vague on this issue; originally they were totally against it then members started to complain so they haven't exactly endorsed it but they do get their members to write in now when there is a bill that is likely to pass in the legislature, e.g. Kentucky.

Personally I think it's bonkers, you literally have people who've bought a gun and are carrying it without any training at all, not even in relation to the law around carrying a gun. For example, it's always illegal to carry on federal property like a post office or within 1,000 feet of a school, under federal law.

The NRA is in an awkward position because they're constantly going on about people getting trained but on the other hand, a lot of members support it.

scrubbedexpat099

The NRA do a lot of course, the one I went on did.

Always thought the concept of concealed carry permit made little sense, but then again they make silencers more expensive and difficult to get.

tom169

A large pro of being NRA member is the bundled insurance.

anotherlimey

They pay your medical bills when you shoot your balls off?

dc koop

You can buy a firearm without a background check at a gun show. You can also buy one out of a car trunk if you know who to talk to and you can buy one in a retail store which generally means a background check. Take your pick

scrubbedexpat099

In Kalifornia?

dc koop

At least it's not Chicago

scrubbedexpat099

True

dc koop

Here's something to think about. If Trump intends to relax gun controls even more but at the same time plans to stop the murder rate in Chicago isn't this a bit like a firefighter holding a water hose in one hand and pouring gasoline on the fire with the other hand ?

scrubbedexpat099

Just as well the Dems are in control in Chicago, as they have been for a very long time.

dc koop

It's probably a lack of resources caused by budget shortfalls that's the main problem and this is a problem in most major American cities.

It makes little difference which party run a city. It's what's available in the budget to hire more police officers and train them in gang suppression tactics that's the issue. Police officers are expensive employees to have on any payroll in any town or city.

As a matter of historical record it was Mayor Big Bill Thompson stalwart member of the Republican and America First Parties who was running the city in the days of Al Capone

tom169

No. And if one is so irresponsible to do so then they deserve to lose their goods.

tom169

Sounds like you've been singing along to Obama speeches in the shower too much.

SultanOfSwing

Do you ever just give it a ****ing rest? Nobody likes right wing cancer, you think you'd have learned that by now.

anotherlimey

Not strictly true..... only if it's a private sale. A dealer always does background checks.