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mrken30 Feb 24th 2017 5:27 am

Relaxing Gun Control
 
I find it quite bizarre with all the attention on safety and terrorism when States are relaxing gun controls. I have a feeling this won't reduce deaths.

https://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.c...utional-carry/

robin1234 Feb 24th 2017 7:38 am

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 
I think that, having decided to ban death panels, folks in the US realise that suicide has to be as easy & painless as possible. (Not necessarily easy for the cleanup crew, of course..)

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 24th 2017 1:26 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 
I have a CC permit, not that difficult to get, not quite sure what the issue here is?

SultanOfSwing Feb 24th 2017 1:38 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 
Relaxing gun control doesn't prevent deaths, tightening it doesn't prevent deaths. It's a cultural problem, not an enforcement problem.

Anyway, I think there are far more pressing issues than guns (climate change, FFS) and others that can be addressed (poverty, housing, unemployment, healthcare) that might reduce some of the criminality that leads to the deaths.

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 24th 2017 1:41 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 
Pregnant woman among 7 killed in Chicago's deadliest day this year - Chicago Tribune

Chicago going great guns

anotherlimey Feb 24th 2017 4:01 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12188537)
I find it quite bizarre with all the attention on safety and terrorism when States are relaxing gun controls. I have a feeling this won't reduce deaths.

https://unclesamsmisguidedchildren.c...utional-carry/

You can't even do that in Florida!

Bloody NH liberals! :lol:

mrken30 Feb 24th 2017 4:05 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12188897)
I have a CC permit, not that difficult to get, not quite sure what the issue here is?

Same argument goes for a drivers license here. So why both if it's not difficult to get?

Bob Feb 24th 2017 8:05 pm

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Amused that if guns are all so great, why politicians are so scared of doing town hall meets because of safety...

scrubbedexpat099 Feb 24th 2017 8:07 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 

Originally Posted by Bob (Post 12189455)
Amused that if guns are all so great, why politicians are so scared of doing town hall meets because of safety...

You should have seen the number of Guns when Obama came to town.

The thing that really amused me was the ID check to get into the rallies.

Pulaski Feb 24th 2017 8:56 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12188897)
I have a CC permit, not that difficult to get, not quite sure what the issue here is?

The gun control lobby don't like it! :nod:

The biggest irony is that people that have concealed carry rights, whether by permit or blanket right, are very rarely the problem. The vast majority of shootings are either in private and therefore concealed carry is irrelevant, or are by criminals who are either previously convicted felons who are therefore automatically prohibited from carrying a gun, or will be when they have been caught and convicted (typically of drug trafficking or gang activities).

mrken30 Feb 24th 2017 9:02 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 
A lot of the people that are shot by their kids(toddlers) are CC holders.

Pulaski Feb 24th 2017 9:09 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12189520)
A lot of the people that are shot by their kids(toddlers) are CC holders.

Relevance?

They are mostly gun owners, and typically parents. A lot probably own a dog.

mrken30 Feb 24th 2017 9:23 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 
The amount of training to get a CC permit in a lot of States is minimal at the best. You take that away and people become even more careless with their guns.
You should not leave a gun in a place where a toddler can get hold of it, or anyone else for that matter. Guns require respect.

SanDiegogirl Feb 24th 2017 9:27 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 
There is no gun control in the US full stop.

Pulaski Feb 24th 2017 9:28 pm

Re: Relaxing Gun Control
 

Originally Posted by mrken30 (Post 12189548)
The amount of training to get a CC permit in a lot of States is minimal at the best. You take that away and people become even more careless with their guns.
You should not leave a gun in a place where a toddler can get hold of it, or anyone else for that matter. Guns require respect.

Wise words. :rolleyes:

You have just proved what Boiler and I said above - concealed carry is irrelevant in the scenarios you describe. Anyone can buy a gun and keep it at home, no training is required, and if they have a concealed carry permit it is coincidental because it certainly isn't necessary.

Originally Posted by SanDiegogirl (Post 12189552)
There is no gun control in the US full stop.

That isn't true, and I think you know it!

There isn't as much gun control in the US as you would like, nor in fact as much as I would like, but that doesn't mean there is "no gun control".


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