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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
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-   -   Pet Peeves? (https://britishexpats.com/forum/trailer-park-96/pet-peeves-733083/)

Jerseygirl Jul 10th 2015 8:56 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Maud Araminta (Post 11696671)
I'm confused. We should say me neither?
That's what I've always been used to saying. Isn't that the English way?

Pulaski Jul 10th 2015 8:57 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Maud Araminta (Post 11696671)
I'm confused. We should say me neither?
Nor me neither. :nod:
Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 11696675)
That's what I've always been used to saying. Isn't that the English way?
Yes. :nod:

kimilseung Jul 10th 2015 9:03 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Maud Araminta (Post 11696668)
Irregardless is a perfectly good word that I like to use on occasion.
I do not not think that double negatives are not really confusing for such non standard words.

Maud Araminta Jul 10th 2015 9:04 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11696673)
No it's not, it is a made up word that is entirely unnecessary and in any case is invariably used to mean "regardless".
. :(
If you eliminated "made up words" from the vocabulary, there wouldn't be much left. How do think a language evolves?

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 11696675)
That's what I've always been used to saying. Isn't that the English way?
Haven't a clue. Been here way too long.

kimilseung Jul 10th 2015 9:05 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Maud Araminta (Post 11696685)
If you eliminated "made up words" from the vocabulary, there wouldn't be much left. How do think a language evolves?
Jesus gave us English, when he wrote the Bible.

Pulaski Jul 10th 2015 9:08 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Maud Araminta (Post 11696685)
If you eliminated "made up words" from the vocabulary, there wouldn't be much left. How do think a language evolves? ......
America seems remarkably good at creating new words that mean exactly the same as other words that already exist, therefore the new words contribute absolutely nothing to effective communication either for science or the arts. Such words are parasitic growths that eventually squeeze out the original word. I blame poor education standards myself. :unsure:
Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 11696686)
Jesus gave us English, when he wrote the Bible.
So what did King James do? :confused:

kimilseung Jul 10th 2015 9:10 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11696687)
America seems remarkably good at creating new words that mean exactly the same as other words that already exist, therefore the new words contribute absolutely nothing to effective communication either for science or the arts. Such words are parasitic growths that eventually squeeze out the original word. I blame poor education standards myself. :unsure:
It would be interesting to know what makes these new words gain traction. What is it in American culture that fosters people to adopt winningest, deplane and burglarized.

kimilseung Jul 10th 2015 9:11 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11696687)
America seems remarkably good at creating new words that mean exactly the same as other words that already exist, therefore the new words contribute absolutely nothing to effective communication either for science or the arts. Such words are parasitic growths that eventually squeeze out the original word. I blame poor education standards myself. :unsure:

So what did King James do? :confused:
He bought Jesus' copy and brought it to England.

Pulaski Jul 10th 2015 9:17 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 11696689)
It would be interesting to know what makes these new words gain traction. What is it in American culture that fosters people to adopt winningest, deplane and burglarized.
Well burglarized is an example of exactly what I was talking about - a verb derived from a noun derived from a verb. Burgle means exactly the same as burglarize, therefore burglarize is entirely unnecessary. Why burglarize took hold, heaven only knows. :rolleyes:

"Deplane" I put down to ignorance of the word disembark, which does perfectly well.

Does "winningest" have a one-word synonym? It's ugly, but I can see why it was invented.

AmerLisa Jul 10th 2015 9:19 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Maud Araminta (Post 11696661)
To say "that have signs in kilometers". What is wrong with "train station"?



Your instead of you're - makes me cringe.

Amusing snippet on the radio the other day: there is a trend here now to say things like for all intensive purposes (instead of for all intents and purposes) and to say never regions (instead of nether regions). There were other ghastly examples as well.
oh dear..... :eek: :lol:

Maud Araminta Jul 10th 2015 9:24 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11696687)
America seems remarkably good at creating new words that mean exactly the same as other words that already exist
Aka synonyms. You sound like Big Brother in Orwell's novel: wanting to strip the language bare.

Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 11696689)
It would be interesting to know what makes these new words gain traction. What is it in American culture that fosters people to adopt winningest, deplane and burglarized.
It's pithy.

Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11696693)
Does "winningest" have a one-word synonym? It's ugly, but I can see why it was invented.
Lucky.

SultanOfSwing Jul 10th 2015 9:27 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11696693)
Does "winningest" have a one-word synonym? It's ugly, but I can see why it was invented.
'Best' would do. Or at a pinch, the two-word 'most successful' is more than adequate.

kimilseung Jul 10th 2015 9:33 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 11696699)
'Best' would do. Or at a pinch, the two-word 'most successful' is more than adequate.
I suppose the rarity of a tie or draw in American sport hasn't helped. Winningest would be pretty much meaningless in cricket or football.

Pulaski Jul 10th 2015 9:36 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 11696702)
...... Winningest would be pretty much meaningless in cricket or football.
What England needs therefore is "drawingest". :scarper:

TCP_D Jul 10th 2015 10:01 am
Re: Pet Peeves?
 
Originally Posted by Maud Araminta (Post 11696661)
To say "that have signs in kilometers". What is wrong with "train station"?



Your instead of you're - makes me cringe.

Amusing snippet on the radio the other day: there is a trend here now to say things like for all intensive purposes (instead of for all intents and purposes) and to say never regions (instead of nether regions). There were other ghastly examples as well.
I heard a similar radio report - on how we mispronounce words - carpool tunnel ... mute points ... quite funny.


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