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Old May 18th 2014, 9:39 pm
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the UK fishing industry was sold down the river by the EU Common Fishing Policy, where the attitude that countries like Spain and Iceland had prior rights meant that our fishing boats were scrapped as they were worth less than the mooring fees.



doesn't help when the UK keeps to the rules on quota's whilst others don't bother

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UK SCUTTLED MADRID OLYMPICS OVER ROCK - WATSON

“Indeed I am told that Mr Cameron actually said to the Spanish Prime Minister, ‘if you carry on with these border queues we will make sure you don’t get the Olympic Games’,” Sir Graham replied.

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UK SCUTTLED MADRID OLYMPICS OVER ROCK - WATSON

“Indeed I am told that Mr Cameron actually said to the Spanish Prime Minister, ‘if you carry on with these border queues we will make sure you don’t get the Olympic Games’,” Sir Graham replied.

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=33975
Interesting, though I think the Spanish did an excellent job of scuttling themselves with such inept presentation and plans.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...t-to-Gibraltar


The deployment of additional sailors to the Rock will, sources say, allow the Royal Navy to operate patrol boats 24 hours a day, and man fast-moving Rigid Inflatable Boats to challenge nighttime incursions by Spanish fishing trawlers.

It follows a public commitment by Europe minster David Lidington that Whitehall would “rule out no option” in upholding British sovereignty over the overseas territory and its waters.

This is very good and welcome news.
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Last night senior Royal Navy sources also confirmed the additional personnel would more include electronic eavesdropping specialists to meet the challenge of Spain’s decision to allow to Russian warships to refuel at its North African territory, Ceuta.
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...t-to-Gibraltar


The deployment of additional sailors to the Rock will, sources say, allow the Royal Navy to operate patrol boats 24 hours a day, and man fast-moving Rigid Inflatable Boats to challenge nighttime incursions by Spanish fishing trawlers.

It follows a public commitment by Europe minster David Lidington that Whitehall would “rule out no option” in upholding British sovereignty over the overseas territory and its waters.

This is very good and welcome news.
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Last night senior Royal Navy sources also confirmed the additional personnel would more include electronic eavesdropping specialists to meet the challenge of Spain’s decision to allow to Russian warships to refuel at its North African territory, Ceuta.
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Looks like the Gibraltar Government is coming under increasing pressure from London to end the fishing dispute (although Gibraltar has no fishing industry).

First Minister Fabian Picardo is exploring ways to let Spanish fishermen back into BGTW.

Here's a report from 5th May - Resolution of fishing dispute imminent.

http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news..._dispute.shtml

And another from 10th May

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=33881

Strange these reports weren't posted here. You'd think some Gibraltarians wouldn't want the dispute to end.

Since Picardo's been such a good boy, maybe Cameron will lend him some sailors to pull the concrete blocks out of the water.
Said so.
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UK SCUTTLED MADRID OLYMPICS OVER ROCK - WATSON

“Indeed I am told that Mr Cameron actually said to the Spanish Prime Minister, ‘if you carry on with these border queues we will make sure you don’t get the Olympic Games’,” Sir Graham replied.

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=33975
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You will believe anything . next the Gib propoganda dept will suggest that Spain scuppered the UK attempt to get the world cup because of the dispute over Gibraltar.
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
UK SCUTTLED MADRID OLYMPICS OVER ROCK - WATSON

“Indeed I am told that Mr Cameron actually said to the Spanish Prime Minister, ‘if you carry on with these border queues we will make sure you don’t get the Olympic Games’,” Sir Graham replied.

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=33975
So, David Cameron is supposed to have said that, and, with the border queues still in operation, goes swimming in Spanish waters last Easter ?

Get real.
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Originally Posted by two tubes of toothpaste
So, David Cameron is supposed to have said that, and, with the border queues still in operation, goes swimming in Spanish waters last Easter ?

Get real.
Maybe you should get real.

If there was a contract out on any EU leader who made a suggestion against another countries best interests, I doubt there'd be a single one still walking.

The EU is not a game of happy families, more a game of whose dog barks the loudest and get's the best scraps.
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The Junta is now starting to worry about the 7000 workers who cross into Gibraltar for work every day. They could hardly give them special treatment could they......wouldn't fit in with EU laws.

http://www.diariosur.es/20140520/loc...405200757.html
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The MOD are denying the recent Express story saying the increase in personnel took place last year


Howevevr on a different note it appears various Party leaders are promising improved support for Gib

I wonder if that will last beyond thursday
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The Citizens of Gibraltar should bombard Hague, the FCO, MPs with letters of complaint.
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
The Citizens of Gibraltar should bombard Hague, the FCO, MPs with letters of complaint.
With the exception of MP's they do. At present we have no MP


GOVT BEEFS UP LOBBYING IN BRUSSELS AND WASHINGTON

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=34002
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
The Citizens of Gibraltar should bombard Hague, the FCO, MPs with letters of complaint.
What's the point ?

Do you remember a little while ago, confidential Foreign Office documents being released showing that the Spanish King admitted Spain did not want Gibraltar back just yet ?

Well there was another document -

In a confidential dispatch from Madrid to Geoffrey Howe, the then Foreign Secretary, Ambassador Parsons wrote: "The King emphasised, as he had done with me before, that that requirement was to take some step over Gibraltar which would keep public opinion quiet for the time being.

"It should be clearly understood in private by both governments that in fact Spain did not really seek an early solution to the sovereignty problem.
"If [Spain] recovered Gibraltar, King Hassan of Morocco would immediately activate his claim to Ceuta and Melilla.
"The two foreign ministers should reach a private understanding between each other, differentiating between their actual aim and the methods used to propitiate public opinion on both sides."

The Spanish and British Foreign Offices came to a truce decades ago not to pursue any issues about Gibraltar. The disputed land and water were to be left disputed.

Even though the ex-Foreign Secretary of Spain has said that Spain's case over Gibraltar is not certain, would you put the fate of Gibraltar in the hands of any European court, or an anti-colonialist World court ?

Nor would the British Foreign Office.

Undercover of the 300 year celebrations Gibraltar First Minister Fabian Picardo suddenly decides to annex the disputed waters by dropping concrete blocks to form a fish reef in it. A sillier place for it cannot be imagined. The Gibraltarians even want a British warship to be tied up a few hundred yards away from it, to guard it.

The Spanish have taken this as a breach of faith between the two governments, but know exactly who is to blame. They have had to take retaliatory measures to re-establish the status quo.

The British Government, whose strongest allies in Europe are Spain, also know who is to blame, and now the 300th year celebrations are over, are putting pressure on Picardo and the Gibraltar Government to return to the status quo.

Complaining to the British Government won't help Gibraltar at all.
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