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Al-Madinah Ofsted report in full


http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Al-M...ail/story.html

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Haven't read this report but I got the feeling from listening to someone from Ofsted that they are backtracking a bit. eg. It's fine for girls to eat at different time because it's a small canteen. Plus it's ok for them to wear hijabs because their Parents want it:blink:

I have a feeling if some of the Teachers hadn't gone to the press it would have probably been marked as a "good" school:thumbdown:

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Why NOT read the report before posting one of your oh so predictable comments.
But then why break the habit of a lifetime and let facts get in the way.

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I notice on that page a poll which says 90% think the school should be closed.

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Lets see another poll , how many of those who voted Yes, have actually read the report.

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Interesting thread

FWIW I wish the apologists for Islam would stop trying to play the racist card, Islam is a religion not a race and it's a pretty primitive religion IMO

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It is a pretty damning report and I wonder if putting the school in into special measures is going to be enough to turn it around.

It was interesting though (to me, at any rate) that it was found to be doing many things very badly, but not the kind of things that seem to have been attracting a lot of the media attention, as this extract shows:-


The National Curriculum is followed with distinct Religious Education lessons provided, in addition to Islamic Studies. Religious Education lessons follow a locally agreed syllabus which enables pupils to learn about the six major world religions, helping pupils understand how people of different faiths can live together. For example, some pupils from this school have visited a nearby Catholic school where they talked about their respective faiths and asked questions of each other. One girl told inspectors that ‘we learnt that lots of things are the same about our two religions’. Pupils from this school presented the pupils from the Catholic school with a copy of the Qur’an and received a set of rosary beads in return.
 The school engages well with parents by, for example, involving them in promoting high career aspirations for girls as well as for boys. Mothers are encouraged to take an active role in the school.

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MFH if you have read this and other threads in detail you will see that those who denigrate ISlam do not the difference between a Shia Muslim from Iran. A sufi from Turkey, or Muslim who attends a public school ilke Harrow or Eton.
A white english muslim who has a university degree.
It is rascist when they catergorise all muslims being same as a someone from a rural background in Pakistan where nothing much has changed for 500 years ( even when we Brits were there ) . Someone who has moved to the UK finds it as different to their homeland as we would theirs and wants to follow their traditional beliefs.
The nazis changed the definition of rascism when they also targeted a religious group irrespective of their backgrounds, education, country of origin etc.
History teaches us lessons that we ignore at our peril.

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is that done by the same means as telling the difference between Catholic and Protestants in NI, a Welshman who goes to chapel and a French or Spanish catholic ??

Religion is something that transcends boundaries that man may put on a map. The early Christians on Lindisfarne show us that.

But Religious Hatred (or should that be Fear) is something that split the UK when Henry VIII was refused a marriage annulment by the Pope and started his own religion. It was also religious hatred that lead to the expulsion of all Jews from the UK by Edward I in 1290 (it was said he owed them more money than he could pay back) and the massacre of all Jews living in York in 1190 and similarly in London in 1189.

History tells us that when when men meet things they don't understand then they can react violently. Sometimes those who are educated will use the ignorance of others to their own advantage.

This is why so many people do not acknowledge their religion and practice it in secret even today.
But it must be remembered that Religious Phobia isn't Racism, the two are mutually exclusive, and that there are many Hindu's living in Pakistan as there are Muslims living in India - a division by man on a piece of paper that had no true meaning except that Hindu's were advising Mountbatten, who expressed no knowledge and couldn't understand why there was bloodshed.

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Using the Nazi's as justification for classing Islam as a race is sort of silly.

I'll repeat what I said Islam is a religion and a primitive one. While many if not most of it's adherents ignore the unpleasant parts (A bit like catholics and birth control etc.) it's foolish in the extreme to try and pretend the unpleasant aspects of the religion don't exist and are practiced by some who follow it

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A valid arguement if you class all relgions in this way.

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I'm sorry but this doesn't make sense to me, do you mean I should now classify Catholics or Methodists as a race?

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Islam is like Catholicism - it is a religion that has had nothing happening for a few hundred years.
Both have moved forward in the past but both have slipped backwards a bit as well.
And more muslims will tell you their religion is founded on Abrahamic principles and that Jesus is revered as a prophet than catholics - who don't understand much about their religion.

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When you decide to start a religion you actually only have two choices IMO, one, you base it on an existing religion or you come up with a brand new idea.

Mohamed based his on early Christianity which in itself in turn took a lot from primitive Judaism (that's the reason for the Homophobia and gender discrimination in Islam)

The only really brand new religion I know about is Trekkies :-)

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It makes no sense at all to me either.
:rofl: