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andyrich666 Oct 12th 2013 11:46 pm

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dont need to go, google is your friend when it comes to finding horrific acts of sharia law carried out, such a lovely place - Matt you have issues if you find this acceptable, seriously issues

Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN) -- Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl.
Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public.
Hena dropped after 70.
Bloodied and bruised, she was taken to hospital, where she died a week later

what does EMR mean by the worst parts

rugbymatt Oct 12th 2013 11:49 pm

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10942351)
dont need to go, google is your friend when it comes to finding horrific acts of sharia law carried out, such a lovely place - Matt you have issues if you find this acceptable, seriously issues

Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN) -- Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl.
Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public.
Hena dropped after 70.
Bloodied and bruised, she was taken to hospital, where she died a week later

what does EMR mean by the worst parts

Don't try and twist this around Mt Griffin, it ain't gonna wash with me. You are, ignorantly tarnishing more than a billion and a half people with the same brush.... that's like me saying that every single Christian on the planet is a child abuser.

jackytoo Oct 12th 2013 11:59 pm

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Any doubters should paste into google what I posted yesterday. Lots on sharia law in the UK much of it posted by Asian women.

in Britain there are now 85 Sharia councils implementing Sharia law on the streets of London, Birmingham, Bradford and elsewhere.

HBG Oct 12th 2013 11:59 pm

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I don't know enough about the topic to comment in any great depth on Muslim pactises in those areas of the UK where they are in the majority. I can say that at least on the surface I am appalled by some of them already mentioned on this thread, so I needn't repeat them.

From my limited observations, and in line with what I think British people do generally if they are able to, they move away. If the Bangladeshis in Stepney annoy them, they move to Essex; if the Muslims in Manor Park or Walthamstow worry them, they move to East Anglia.

Nobody is going to get stoned for adultery there, nor will they be hanged for being gay.

andyrich666 Oct 12th 2013 11:59 pm

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Im not turning nothing round I was talking only about Sharia Law nothing else, jimmy savile et all.

You keep twisting and asking.

jimenato Oct 13th 2013 12:38 am

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Originally Posted by me me (Post 10942213)
wonder if the same people who defend the muslims also defend gays in other threads on BE.

Because I don´t think that is possible, the muslim defenders obvioulsly must be against gays.

So there can be no sitting on the fence for this question

And Christians. Christians must be anti gay too mustn't they? Read Leviticus.

EMR Oct 13th 2013 12:57 am

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When was the last time any one in the UK muslim community was stoned for adultery or hanged for being gay??

I do not read the Mail, Express , Today or Sun so I will have to admit to having missed it.
But I do not remember seeing on the TV news either.

andyrich666 Oct 13th 2013 1:38 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10942401)
When was the last time any one in the UK muslim community was stoned for adultery or hanged for being gay??

I do not read the Mail, Express , Today or Sun so I will have to admit to having missed it.
But I do not remember seeing on the TV news either.

No and long may it stay that way but they do push boundries, like the underage marriages of 12 year old girls which is totally unacceptable and illegal

EMR Oct 13th 2013 1:40 am

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So you agree that your views are based on ignorance and lack of evidence !!

Lynn R Oct 13th 2013 1:55 am

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Following this television expose of clerics, clearly identified by name and the authorities know who and where they are, who are prepared to carry out illegal religious marriage ceremonies involving under-age girls, I would like to see what the UK authorities do about it.

I have seen investigative journalism before, only last year about doctors and even unqualified people who were prepared to carry out female genital mutilation on girls in the UK, which is also illegal (as it most certainly should be). Again, the authorities knew who these people were. But what has been done about it? Nothing - the CPS is only just now (over a month ago) saying that the first such prosecution in the UK may be "close". How close? Just how much evidence do they need? Why have there been over 100 successful convictions in France and no prosecutions, never mind convictions, in the UK?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23982767

By the way, this is the case in Spain I mentioned earlier in the thread. The authorities here obviously have very robust arrangements in place for tackling the problem, with a representative from social services having visited the parents at home to make it clear to them that the practice is illegal in Spain, followed by regular gynaeological check-ups on the children, which is how the mutilation came to be discovered.

http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/05/26/...91_732099.html

andyrich666 Oct 13th 2013 2:02 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10942433)
So you agree that your views are based on ignorance and lack of evidence !!

I have views on Sharia Law which has absolutely no place in our society and I already have stated that I would not visit a country that is ruled by any type of islamic law.

Other than that I do not know understand what views you seem to think I allude to.

EMR Oct 13th 2013 2:49 am

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Just read your posts.

jackytoo Oct 13th 2013 3:13 am

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[QUOTE=Lynn R;10942440]Following this television expose of clerics, clearly identified by name and the authorities know who and where they are, who are prepared to carry out illegal religious marriage ceremonies involving under-age girls, I would like to see what the UK authorities do about it.

I have seen investigative journalism before, only last year about doctors and even unqualified people who were prepared to carry out female genital mutilation on girls in the UK, which is also illegal (as it most certainly should be). Again, the authorities knew who these people were. But what has been done about it? Nothing - the CPS is only just now (over a month ago) saying that the first such prosecution in the UK may be "close". How close? Just how much evidence do they need? Why have there been over 100 successful convictions in France and no prosecutions, never mind convictions, in the UK?


I think the answer is in this forum. Everyone treats the Muslim community with kid gloves as they are either scared of being branded racist. The rest have the British traditional apologist stance. Goes back to the first post on here and why that appalling school was not closed down earlier.

me me Oct 13th 2013 4:26 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10942351)
dont need to go, google is your friend when it comes to finding horrific acts of sharia law carried out, such a lovely place - Matt you have issues if you find this acceptable, seriously issues

Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN) -- Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl.
Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public.
Hena dropped after 70.
Bloodied and bruised, she was taken to hospital, where she died a week later

what does EMR mean by the worst parts

What a terrible story, savages, from the court judge, to the flogger to the people who went to see the savagery, no doubt for entertainment.

It does make a forced marriage at 14 preferable though to being flogged to death in a public square.:thumbdown::thumbdown:



[QUOTE=j]

Originally Posted by convictions, in the UK? [/I

I think the answer is in this forum. Everyone treats the Muslim community with kid gloves as they are either scared of being branded racist. The rest have the British traditional apologist stance. Goes back to the first post on here and why that appalling school was not closed down earlier.

Yes I think you have hit the nail on the head, it comes to something when supposedly right minded folk, think it is preferable to let young girls be treated so badly, because they are afraid to speak out and call a spade a shovel.

I admit I have never lived in a muslim or immigrant area, and have no desire to either.

And unlike some on here never had much to do with muslims not in working life or home/social life, not particularly by choice, it is just that it did not happen that way.

But I do wonder about people who claim to have worked or/and have well educated ,liberal, independent, professional muslim women if they ever asked them if their community and religious leaders are doing anything about abuse in the name of islam, and if not, why not?

EMR Oct 13th 2013 4:32 am

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There is also an article in the sunday times about Tommy Robinson ( unapolagetic ex EDL thug ).
Just compare hos views with those of some posters on this thread.
Need I say anymore.


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