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jackytoo Oct 8th 2013 8:14 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10936232)
You idea that white UK child killer know what they are doing is wrong fails because other wise why do they do it.
Is their perversion any less than someone who thinks in a way alien to us.
Is a man who repeatedly kills children for a sexual perversion to be regarded differently to a father who lacking the sophistication of our society carries out what in his mind is a justified honour killing.
You can educate the father to think differently which is what society should be doing then you can end those types of acts.

We will never know the extent of child abuse in Muslim communities. Not exactly transparent are they:blink: When women are raped in the middle east they are often charged themselves.:huh:

There was this case this week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24438375

EMR Oct 8th 2013 8:28 am

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If your idea of the British way of life is bigotry, intolerance, drunken anti social behaviour that means we are a laughing stock where ever Brits in large numbers can be found.
Then you are right I want no part of your UK.
My idea of being a Brit is tolerance,acceptance of others behaving in a way that does not humiliate me or other Brits.
You keep attributing membership of organisations to me , unions and now the sali army.
Yet again you are wrong as in so many things.

Historical note for you, over 90% of the fathers and grandfathers of todays germans voted for the nazis.
This goes to prove what happens when you have a society where intolerance becomes the norm and its OK to target any minority and attribute blame to them for the problems in our society
If you study history many of the uneducated views about Islam from certain sections of the UK white population are similar to those held in Nazi germany regarding the Jews and other minorities.
Again that is a Britain I do not want to be part of.
There is more to fear in my Britain from these views than from a tiny % of the
Islamic population.

jjh Oct 8th 2013 8:37 am

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For goodness sake people, get a grip. A TV prog is just that. They want to bring out the worst in most societies and it´s wrong.

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE be they black, white, or any religion should be vilified if they abuse or kill children.

You just seem so intent on knocking one another and also proving your opinion is right, that I think you have lost sight of what is important.

Sad to say, I know I will be knocked for this post. Do I care? No.

me me Oct 8th 2013 9:21 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10936296)
If your idea of the British way of life is bigotry, intolerance, drunken anti social behaviour that means we are a laughing stock where ever Brits in large numbers can be found.
Then you are right I want no part of your UK.
My idea of being a Brit is tolerance,acceptance of others behaving in a way that does not humiliate me or other Brits.
You keep attributing membership of organisations to me , unions and now the sali army.
Yet again you are wrong as in so many things.

Historical note for you, over 90% of the fathers and grandfathers of todays germans voted for the nazis.
This goes to prove what happens when you have a society where intolerance becomes the norm and its OK to target any minority and attribute blame to them for the problems in our society
If you study history many of the uneducated views about Islam from certain sections of the UK white population are similar to those held in Nazi germany regarding the Jews and other minorities.
Again that is a Britain I do not want to be part of.
There is more to fear in my Britain from these views than from a tiny % of the
Islamic population.

Now I know what you are about, you want to educate us in the ways of Islam, thanks but no thanks.:blink:


I know all I ever want to know about it, from the honor killing, to the domestic abuse that comes from husbands, mother in laws, fathers, brothers, uncle Tom Cobley and all.

All I need to know about Islam is contained in this one sentence, said by a judge at an honour killing trial of the parents of Shafilea Ahmed.

Shafilea's conduct was bringing shame upon you, and your concern about being shamed in your community was greater than your love for your child."

Shameful isn´t it, this is the UK.

Rosemary Oct 8th 2013 9:30 am

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Originally Posted by jjh (Post 10936302)
For goodness sake people, get a grip. A TV prog is just that. They want to bring out the worst in most societies and it´s wrong.

Anyone, and I mean ANYONE be they black, white, or any religion should be vilified if they abuse or kill children.

You just seem so intent on knocking one another and also proving your opinion is right, that I think you have lost sight of what is important.

Sad to say, I know I will be knocked for this post. Do I care? No.

:goodpost:

Rosemary

EMR Oct 8th 2013 9:42 am

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Me Me, your views scare me and would scare any right thinking Brit.
You seem to revel in your ignorance, you quote the views of a judge about a family murder in the muslim community yet chose to ignore the shame of child death from many perverted reasons which are a disgrace to our society and carried out by members of the society you think is superior to all others.
What does the bible say " let he who is without sin cast the first stone ".
I have no religion and do not as you and so many other believe think that all the wrongs in the UK can be attributed to non Brits who at least have a faith unlike the majority of the established UK population.

jackytoo Oct 8th 2013 10:00 am

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I think it is quite good that the majority of British don't have a "faith".

me me Oct 8th 2013 10:04 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10936381)
Me Me, your views scare me and would scare any right thinking Brit.
You seem to revel in your ignorance, you quote the views of a judge about a family murder in the muslim community yet chose to ignore the shame of child death from many perverted reasons which are a disgrace to our society and carried out by members of the society you think is superior to all others.
What does the bible say " let he who is without sin cast the first stone ". So EMR does that mean that the brave men who stone women to death for adultery are without sin?
I have no religion and do not as you and so many other believe think that all the wrongs in the UK can be attributed to non Brits who at least have a faith unlike the majority of the established UK population.

I think you need to MAN UP.



And on that note, I shall wish you a good night.

EMR Oct 8th 2013 8:30 pm

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Stoning women can be found in the bible it was something that Islam took from the jewish and christian religion at that time. Like so many of their traditions. Like choping that hands of theives etc.
When was the last time a muslim women in England or Europe was stoned for adultery.
Everytime you apply our 21st century standards to parts of the world which are still liviing in the 14th century you reveal more of your ignorance.

andyrich666 Oct 8th 2013 9:12 pm

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Originally Posted by me me (Post 10936222)
You are totally wrong about my life, I love it, really love it.

I have 2 wonderful kids, both doing great in the UK, in good relationships and they are happy.

I have wonderful family and friends

I myself, do not work (no need), as I have a husband who brings home much more than the bacon.

We can go wherever we want, whenever we want, so don´t presume that I am not happy, just because I have a negative view of Islam.

Your argument about the child being killed and burned by a white man, might hold water, but the sad fact is, that the killer knows it was wrong, whereas the people that carry out honour killings in the name of Islam think they are right and justified in the abhorrent acts.

Defend Islam all you want, it won´t wash with me but, I have a strange feeling that you feel the same way, there is something is fishy about you.

You are not what you first appear to be.

Are you sure that you are not playing devils advocate, just so I post what you are actually thinking.

This is kind of my feeling too with where some of my posts went, I fell for it though.

I like you now ;)

rugbymatt Oct 8th 2013 9:19 pm

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I've sent a link to this thread to the BNP.... I'm sure some of you will be getting your membership cards in the post soon.

amideislas Oct 8th 2013 9:49 pm

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Originally Posted by me me (Post 10936222)
You are totally wrong about my life, I love it, really love it.

I have 2 wonderful kids, both doing great in the UK, in good relationships and they are happy.

I have wonderful family and friends

I myself, do not work (no need), as I have a husband who brings home much more than the bacon.

We can go wherever we want, whenever we want, so don´t presume that I am not happy, just because I have a negative view of Islam.

Your argument about the child being killed and burned by a white man, might hold water, but the sad fact is, that the killer knows it was wrong, whereas the people that carry out honour killings in the name of Islam think they are right and justified in the abhorrent acts.

Defend Islam all you want, it won´t wash with me but, I have a strange feeling that you feel the same way, there is something is fishy about you.

You are not what you first appear to be.

Are you sure that you are not playing devils advocate, just so I post what you are actually thinking.

You must be some sort of criminal, then. "Pursuit of happiness" is not one of our entitlements. Everybody knows that only people who live outside the law enjoy such decadence.

rugbymatt Oct 8th 2013 10:04 pm

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10936960)
You must be some sort of criminal, then. "Pursuit of happiness" is not one of our entitlements. Everybody knows that only people who live outside the law enjoy such decadence.

Like the very rich, bankers, corporate tax dodgers and big business.... I agree, well said.

me me Oct 8th 2013 10:58 pm

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Originally Posted by amideislas (Post 10936960)
You must be some sort of criminal, then. "Pursuit of happiness" is not one of our entitlements. Everybody knows that only people who live outside the law enjoy such decadence.

Gotta laugh.:rofl:

Not exactly criminal, but of course as people get hammered more and more they will look for "manoeveres" to combat it.

Although I have never quite understood the people who pay up without question or at least some fight, I find that people who claim to put the state and it tax laws above their own families "entitlement" as a bit suspect.

Maybe is should change my name to ME ME ME and MINE MINE MINE ( got in there before someone else does).

amideislas Oct 8th 2013 11:08 pm

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10936976)
Like the very rich, bankers, corporate tax dodgers and big business.... I agree, well said.

No surprise. Anti-prosperity is practically the motto of socialists. After all, the best places in the world to be poor are the countries under socialist control, who are consistently the most vocal about condemning prosperity and attributing heroism to the poor that socialism breeds.

And yes, there is far less of that criminal wealth and prosperity in the ideal socialist world. The prosperous are limited to those few who rule. I reckon it's quite a privilege to "serve" the peasant population whilst enjoying exclusive wealth and power.

Happiness? What's that got to do with it? You're a worker bee, not a queen. Again, happiness is not amongst the many entitlements of socialism. Besides, in the ideal socialist world, no doubt the "rules" for happiness are written into law. When to smile, when not to, etc. You wouldn't want to break the law would you? There's penalties for that.

No worries, we're almost there - as long as we stay on this trajectory. It may take another 3 or 4 generations before we can truly be proud of living the noble humble existence our dear leadership imposes upon us.

Utopia. Finally. Just shut up and be happy that our dear leadership has it all sorted for you.


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