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Domino Oct 18th 2013 1:26 am

Re: British standards ???
 
seems a UK taxi can't have a St George's flag stickers on doors as
would leave anyone who is not English at a 'disadvantage in their day to day life'
seems there was 1 (yes - one) complaint by unspecified person

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-sticker.html

EMR Oct 18th 2013 5:36 am

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The problem with the flag of st George is that it has been chosen by the extreme right parties and groups and is associated in the mind of many with ignorance and rascism.
This is a real pity, the welsh have their Dragon, the Scots the Saltire, the Protestant NI the red hand of Ulster.
Why don,t we English have a red Lion on a white background, there is no historical associations with the crusdades , the thicker end of the England football supporters, EDL, EDF etc.
Plus all these new flags and banners would bring employment to the poorer areas of China,

me me Oct 18th 2013 6:52 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10950176)
seems a UK taxi can't have a St George's flag stickers on doors as
would leave anyone who is not English at a 'disadvantage in their day to day life'
seems there was 1 (yes - one) complaint by unspecified person

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...g-sticker.html

Some people going around looking for "offences", that in a normal society would be laughable.

People who make the rules or enforce them, really need to man up.

andyrich666 Oct 18th 2013 10:32 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10950675)
The problem with the flag of st George is that it has been chosen by the extreme right parties and groups and is associated in the mind of many with ignorance and rascism.
This is a real pity, the welsh have their Dragon, the Scots the Saltire, the Protestant NI the red hand of Ulster.
Why don,t we English have a red Lion on a white background, there is no historical associations with the crusdades , the thicker end of the England football supporters, EDL, EDF etc.
Plus all these new flags and banners would bring employment to the poorer areas of China,

There is no problem other than for you, we went through all this bullshit under Brown when he took it down, and now its turned back around and it flies in Downing street.

Its not a pity, its a flag and its acceptable. you say I am narrow minded, well **** you, this is as narrow minded as it gets when you claim our flag has been chosen by far right groups.

Its a stupid story that could be shut down by a decent brief in no time.

Dick Dasterdly Oct 18th 2013 11:59 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10950675)
Why don,t we English have a red Lion on a white background, there is no historical associations with the crusdades , the thicker end of the England football supporters, EDL, EDF etc.

So when the extremists latch on to that one as well, just as they have the other two, I suppose we'll have to fix yet another one and continue to allow ourselves to be pushed around and dictated to by right wing nutters.

Have you never just for once thought about putting your brain into gear before banging away at the keyboard like a complete eejit ?

Lion in Winter Oct 18th 2013 2:08 pm

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Many right-wing groups have tried to wrap themselves in assorted flags, and that includes the English flag and the Union flag.

The trick is to take it back. National symbols do not belong to them any more than the country does - from formal neo-Nazi groups to the ignorant prejudiced and everything in between - and it's the job of the rest of us to behave decently, speak up and act when necessary, and leave those half-wits on the margin, where they belong.

rugbymatt Oct 18th 2013 8:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 10951171)
Many right-wing groups have tried to wrap themselves in assorted flags, and that includes the English flag and the Union flag.

The trick is to take it back. National symbols do not belong to them any more than the country does - from formal neo-Nazi groups to the ignorant prejudiced and everything in between - and it's the job of the rest of us to behave decently, speak up and act when necessary, and leave those half-wits on the margin, where they belong.

****ing Commie bastard!



Ooops, sorry, I got caught up in the thread for a second... as you were.

EMR Oct 18th 2013 8:17 pm

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I want nothing to do with baldie tattooed prats who wrap themselves in the flag of st geaorge and nor do the majority of the UK population.
Sadly the image is tarnished not just in the UK but where ever these morons have been.
There is nothng wrong in re branding England.
After all the current flag is named after a greek mercenary who may or may not have existed and only came into use general use in the 20th century .
Prior to that t was used by the RN because its design identifying UK vessels was easily seen by other ships.

rugbymatt Oct 18th 2013 8:19 pm

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10951284)
I want nothing to do with baldie tattooed prats who wrap themselves in the flag of st geaorge and nor do the majority of the UK population.
Sadly the image is tarnished not just in the UK but where ever these morons have been.
There is nothng wrong in re branding England.
After all the current flag is named after a greek mercenary who may or may not have existed and only came into use general use in the 20th century .
Prior to that t was used by the RN because its design identifying UK vessels was easily seen by other ships.

It was used at Crecy.

Dick Dasterdly Oct 18th 2013 8:49 pm

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...and in the Crusades where it was flown by the English fleet to guarantee safe passage through the Med.

Domino Oct 18th 2013 10:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 10951171)
Many right-wing groups have tried to wrap themselves in assorted flags, and that includes the English flag and the Union flag.

The trick is to take it back. National symbols do not belong to them any more than the country does - from formal neo-Nazi groups to the ignorant prejudiced and everything in between - and it's the job of the rest of us to behave decently, speak up and act when necessary, and leave those half-wits on the margin, where they belong.

and some have been seen to burn the Union flag in the middle of London and passing policemen have tutted and walked away muttering about littering not being in their remit

:(
would be interested in reading your treatise on how you plan on "taking the flag back" without upsetting a few fluffy bunnies
:confused:

Lion in Winter Oct 19th 2013 12:28 am

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Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10951363)
:(
would be interested in reading your treatise on how you plan on "taking the flag back" without upsetting a few fluffy bunnies
:confused:

1. Use it

2. Behave decently, so the half-wits remain marginalized. It has worked pretty well in the UK for some time, on the whole. We don't have to follow along.

3.Freedom of expression is one of the things that needs to be upheld against all comers, even if I dislike what they are doing and saying.

4. By that same token, I reserve the right to speak up myself as I see fit, especially when others don't like it.

Lion in Winter Oct 19th 2013 12:29 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10951283)
****ing Commie bastard!

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Still, at least I know a tongue-in-cheek comment when I hear it, eh? Puts me ahead of the game.

rugbymatt Oct 19th 2013 1:02 am

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 10951494)
Still, at least I know a tongue-in-cheek comment when I hear it, eh? Puts me ahead of the game.

I know! I was beginning to wear out the face palm picture.

Dick Dasterdly Oct 19th 2013 1:59 am

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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter (Post 10951492)
1. Use it

2. Behave decently, so the half-wits remain marginalized. It has worked pretty well in the UK for some time, on the whole. We don't have to follow along.

3.Freedom of expression is one of the things that needs to be upheld against all comers, even if I dislike what they are doing and saying.

Continuing to use it in a responsible manner is what most people seem to have continued to do.
That hasn't removed the stigma that many have attached to it for quite a long time now.
Plan B ?


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