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Lion in Winter Oct 19th 2013 2:23 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10951585)
Continuing to use it in a responsible manner is what most people seem to have continued to do.
That hasn't removed the stigma that many have attached to it for quite a long time now.
Plan B ?

We don't need a plan B. It isn't their flag. It belongs to all us and it's up to us to make it stand for the right things by the way we behave and speak. As long as decent people remain as the critical mass, we will be ok.

andyrich666 Oct 20th 2013 2:12 am

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There is a story here that I noticed on the front page of the sun today I thought its worth showing you guys why we dont want Sharia law to have any part in the UK

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-her-jail-hell

Its current

Lion in Winter Oct 20th 2013 2:56 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10952679)
There is a story here that I noticed on the front page of the sun today I thought its worth showing you guys why we dont want Sharia law to have any part in the UK

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-her-jail-hell

Its current

I'm fairly sure we don't need to worry about anyone being stoned to death in the UK, or put in prison for having sex.

Lynn R Oct 20th 2013 2:58 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10952679)
There is a story here that I noticed on the front page of the sun today I thought its worth showing you guys why we dont want Sharia law to have any part in the UK

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-her-jail-hell

Its current

Wow, who knew someone could become addicted to Valium and manage to beat the addiction, all within the space of two weeks - that's some going!

Andy, you're a grown-up now - time to give up the comics and start reading newspapers.

Dick Dasterdly Oct 20th 2013 3:29 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10952679)
There is a story here that I noticed on the front page of the sun today I thought its worth showing you guys why we dont want Sharia law to have any part in the UK

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-her-jail-hell

Its current

Quite a few similar cases have come to light in recent years.
Here's a fairly recent one, though I do recall BBC reports on similar incidents.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/08...n_3721980.html

Never mind Andy, there's obviously quite a few BE posters rubbing their hands with glee at the mere thought of Sharia Law, whilst others continue to bury their heads in the sand.

Just imagine if it ever applied in a country like Spain.

Almost every single man woman and child would be in locked prison in no time at all, if there were enough prisons and guards to go round that is.

What's in a kiss, eh ?

EMR Oct 20th 2013 3:44 am

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How mant times do we have to say it so that it gets into your thick heads. Sharia law is not legal in the UK and never will be.
Just as its not 100% legal in Egypt, Turkey and most of the North African states where Isalm is the predominant religion.
There are parts which are against UK civil and criminal law .
Typical right wing ****** stirring.

Lion in Winter Oct 20th 2013 3:55 am

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Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10952809)
How mant times do we have to say it so that it gets into your thick heads. Sharia law is not legal in the UK and never will be.
Just as its not 100% legal in Egypt, Turkey and most of the North African states where Isalm is the predominant religion.
There are parts which are against UK civil and criminal law .
Typical right wing ****** stirring.

What???

You mean you aren't rubbing your hands in glee and Parliament isn't about to be overthrown by a group of radical imams?

Well I never.

To be fair, I think DD just wants a fight on BE - I don't think he could quite believe it either.:)

Lynn R Oct 20th 2013 4:01 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 10952783)
Quite a few similar cases have come to light in recent years.
Here's a fairly recent one, though I do recall BBC reports on similar incidents.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/08...n_3721980.html

Never mind Andy, there's obviously quite a few BE posters rubbing their hands with glee at the mere thought of Sharia Law, whilst others continue to bury their heads in the sand.

Just imagine if it ever applied in a country like Spain.

Almost every single man woman and child would be in locked prison in no time at all, if there were enough prisons and guards to go round that is.

What's in a kiss, eh ?

One country where sharia law most certainly does hold sway is Saudi Arabia. I know women who have worked there, in nursing and secretarial work, who were struck by the religious police for offences such as not being sufficiently "covered up" in public.

What is the UK Government's attitude to this regime? I have not heard anybody voicing objections to the members of their ruling elite who buy expensive properties in London or the English countryside (nor in Marbella, come to think of it) or take over entire floors of luxury hotels with their entourage (including a number of wives - when polygamy is illegal in Britain - who wear the most extreme form of the burqua possible in public). Is it one law for the rich who we want to flog arms and other military hardware to (to the extent that investigations into corrupt business practices are ordered to be dropped by the British Government), and another for the poorer variety of Muslim? If so, perhaps we should consider this a "double standard".

andyrich666 Oct 20th 2013 4:54 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by EMR (Post 10952809)
How mant times do we have to say it so that it gets into your thick heads. Sharia law is not legal in the UK and never will be.
Just as its not 100% legal in Egypt, Turkey and most of the North African states where Isalm is the predominant religion.
There are parts which are against UK civil and criminal law .
Typical right wing ****** stirring.

Yes but 40% according to a telegraph poll want it, so it reason for debate.

Those 40% should accept our law without debate just like we would or rather should accept islamic law in Dubai.

andyrich666 Oct 20th 2013 4:55 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 10952750)
Wow, who knew someone could become addicted to Valium and manage to beat the addiction, all within the space of two weeks - that's some going!

Andy, you're a grown-up now - time to give up the comics and start reading newspapers.

I think the original interview came from the Daily Express. I just saw the front page of the sun in the news agents and then googled the story

rugbymatt Oct 20th 2013 5:04 am

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Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10952914)
Yes but 40% according to a telegraph poll want it, so it reason for debate.

Those 40% should accept our law without debate just like we would or rather should accept islamic law in Dubai.

40%? You mean 40% of the 1000 or so Muslims they polled in the survey right? I only ask because Islam represents about 4.8% of the British population so if you are suggesting that 40% of Britain want Sharia then there are some seriously messed up Christians, Sikhs, Hinus, Jews and Atheists in this country!



Oh and the IRONY of you posting a link about a person who was clearly drinking in a country that clearly forbids it on a thread that suggests that people should live their lives according to the country they have chosen to live in is absolutely hilarious!

andyrich666 Oct 20th 2013 5:13 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10952932)

Oh and the IRONY of you posting a link about a person who was clearly drinking in a country that clearly forbids it on a thread that suggests that people should live their lives according to the country they have chosen to live in is absolutely hilarious!

Matt the offence is one thing the punishment is another, if you think stoning women is hilarious then..................

yes of course 40% of Muslims

andyrich666 Oct 20th 2013 5:18 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10952932)
40%? You mean 40% of the 1000 or so Muslims they polled in the survey right? I only ask because Islam represents about 4.8% of the British population so if you are suggesting that 40% of Britain want Sharia then there are some seriously messed up Christians, Sikhs, Hinus, Jews and Atheists in this country!



Oh and the IRONY of you posting a link about a person who was clearly drinking in a country that clearly forbids it on a thread that suggests that people should live their lives according to the country they have chosen to live in is absolutely hilarious!

Interesting the 4.8% as a third of youth prisoners are Muslim, and adults 13% of the prison population, if you like stats

me me Oct 20th 2013 5:22 am

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So if only 4.8% of the UK population is Muslim and 13% of prisoners in the UK are muslim, there must be some real serious baddass gangstas amongst them.

Taking into consideration that out of the 4.8% there are young children, who would not be sent to jail anyway,

Why would the number of criminals be so high.

According to government figuers.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...E2rqLrXlLM5oYg

Lion in Winter Oct 20th 2013 5:23 am

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10952914)
Yes but 40% according to a telegraph poll want it, so it reason for debate.

Those 40% should accept our law without debate just like we would or rather should accept islamic law in Dubai.

I think it's worth clarifying that sharia "law" as practiced in the UK isn't law in the sense of it having any legal standing. It is not the law of the land and is irrelevant to whether or not "they" accept actual British law. They have to accept British law. It is more a case of religious practices for those that see fit to try and live their lives by those rules. Women seeking permission to "divorce" in those hearings, for example, are seeking religious permission to undo a religious marriage, and that has no affect at all on her legal married or unmarried status. For an equivalent example, if a catholic priest gives someone forgiveness in the confessional for a crime committed, that has no bearing at all on that person's legal responsibility for the crime nor the punishment that a legal court imposes - whether or not s/he feels better for having received absolution by his/her religious figurehead of choice.

In so far as those hearings are extremely conservative, and a place where women are not given the same status as men, and where social pressure is brought to bear, I would join with you in criticizing them, just as I would any practice where people are not treated humanely and equally. The way women in Ireland were treated under Catholicism for a very long time would rank right up there, for example.


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