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rugbymatt Oct 15th 2013 9:57 pm

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by me me (Post 10946567)
This thread was started about thing that are happening in the UK in a certain faith school.

Now to get back to the original theme about British standards, and what is happening in British tows, in the present day.

I am not interested how the rulings of sharia law affect those in far countries, but those people who have left those countries should leave those laws behind them, as it has no place being forced on British muslim girls.

Underage girls are being married under Islamic law, and often against their will, as the parents arrange the marriage with the iman and then inform the girl later.

It is a problem, if not the programme would not have been made.

I don´t think this type of marriage is compliant with British standards.

What the Chinese are ding in China is not relevant.

If they want to bring back feet binding in China that is their business, but of course it should not be allowed in the UK.

The same with Islam, what goes on in those countires, we may not agree with honour killings, but they do, and if it is not against the law, that´s how it is.The culprit may get off with it, because it is how they solve the problem of wayward girls.

Howeve that does not wash in the UK, it is against the law to kill, even if the daughter in question does want to go out and wear a short skirt.

So let the Chinese sort out China, the Iranians sort out Iran, but when these acts spill over into other countries like the UK, surely those countries can have a say in what is and isn´t allowed without having a squad of apologist and PC brigade shouting "racism".

Remember the thread is British standards, ie standards within Great Britian.

But all other religions that practice it are fine I'm assuming? I only ask because it seems it's only the Ragheads you have a problem with....

me me Oct 15th 2013 10:04 pm

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10946571)
But all other religions that practice it are fine I'm assuming? I only ask because it seems it's only the Ragheads you have a problem with....

The programme I am talking about shown last week, featured "Ragheads", as you call them.

the Hindus and others that are doing the same thing should also be sought and thrown in jail for breaking the UK law, of forcing underage girls to live as wives.

Same would apply if a gang of WHITE American hillbillies in Cambridge were doing the same thing.

Satisfied now?

I suppose not.

rugbymatt Oct 15th 2013 10:13 pm

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by me me (Post 10946574)
The programme I am talking about shown last week, featured "Ragheads", as you call them.

the Hindus and others that are doing the same thing should also be sought and thrown in jail for breaking the UK law, of forcing underage girls to live as wives.

Same would apply if a gang of WHITE American hillbillies in Cambridge were doing the same thing.

Satisfied now?

I suppose not.

Oh sorry, it's just that you only focused on Islam (as usual)... I didn't realise you meant ALL faiths and groups of people... You can understand why I struggled with your definition obviously, you know, since all you've done is froth about Islam....

jimenato Oct 15th 2013 10:25 pm

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 10946528)
I read it regarding Rape is that Islam allows rape (by using the 4 witness), from WIKI ref Qur'an

There is no equivalent term for ‘rape’ in the Qur'an. Likewise, there is not a single verse in the Qur'an which even remotely discourages forced sex. In contrast, there are several verses in this book which give the green light to rape and other sexual crimes against women.

I would have to look long and hard but I suspect that much the same could be said about the bible. Which, of course, is not justifying the Quran in any way...

EMR Oct 15th 2013 10:46 pm

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MM the Thread originally was about education.
Please go back to the beginning, as usual it was you and a few others who introduced rascism into the thread.
The OECD and OFSTED have both reported that falling education standards in the UK have little realtionship to immigration.
One of our local schools that was placed under special measures has a very low % of immigrant children
It is the classic case of catchment zone of the poorer areas with social problems, high % of parents on benefits with low aspirations that they pass onto their children.
Poorly motivated teachers only make it harder to improve the situation.
Anothe local Cof E primary had a white teacher who abused children for years and whose actions were ingored by his headmaster.


I would be interested to see how you can link these to Islam.
But I am sure you will.

jackytoo Oct 15th 2013 10:56 pm

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Originally Posted by me me (Post 10946484)
Some people seem to have the idea that if we can find other groups that have harsh regimes, then it somehow excuses the wrongs of others.

To me that does not wash, it is like saying that Jimmy Saville`s crimes were not so bad because Ian Huntley killed his victims and Saville only abused them.:confused:

Put into that context is does seem strange that people justify one regime, by pointing out that other regimes (apart from the one they are defending) are also harsh.

:goodpost:

It's a bit like the pissing contest posts when someone has a whinge about Spain and the usual what about the UK gang post:D It is a tool to try and stifle debate.

Then there are others whose only aim is to provoke some posters in order to get them banned.

jackytoo Oct 15th 2013 10:59 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 10946593)
I would have to look long and hard but I suspect that much the same could be said about the bible. Which, of course, is not justifying the Quran in any way...

Yes agree. Some questionable stuff in all religions dogma. The difference is most religions don't practice it to the letter!

Lion in Winter Oct 15th 2013 11:07 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10946629)
Yes agree. Some questionable stuff in all religions dogma. The difference is most religions don't practice it to the letter!

So you believe that the 1.6 billion or so Muslims in the world, nearly a 1/4 of the world's population, are all stoning people and condoning rape, etc?

When did the capacity for rational thought go out the window? It does no one any favours.

jimenato Oct 15th 2013 11:16 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10946629)
Yes agree. Some questionable stuff in all religions dogma. The difference is most religions don't practice it to the letter!

Which ones do practice 'it' to the letter, whatever 'it' is?

jackytoo Oct 15th 2013 11:19 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 10946659)
Which ones do practice 'it' to the letter, whatever 'it' is?

Now I can't be bothered to explain "it" when you come on with smart arse comments.

NEXT

(Is anyone else getting bored:rofl:)

jimenato Oct 15th 2013 11:21 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10946625)
:goodpost:

It's a bit like the pissing contest posts when someone has a whinge about Spain and the usual what about the UK gang post:D It is a tool to try and stifle debate.

Then there are others whose only aim is to provoke some posters in order to get them banned.

Have you seen the rebuttals of that post? What have you got to say about them?

Just to reiterate, pointing out that a bad practice isn't restricted to Islam IS NOT JUSTIFYING ISLAM. And I have no idea why anybody would think that it is.

jimenato Oct 15th 2013 11:24 pm

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10946629)
Yes agree. Some questionable stuff in all religions dogma. The difference is most religions don't practice it to the letter!


Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10946661)
Now I can't be bothered to explain "it" when you come on with smart arse comments.

NEXT

(Is anyone else getting bored:rofl:)

Let's face it, you don't even know why you wrote it do you?;)

me me Oct 15th 2013 11:43 pm

Re: British standards ???
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10946661)
Now I can't be bothered to explain "it" when you come on with smart arse comments.

NEXT

(Is anyone else getting bored:rofl:)

It is getting a bit boring.

We seem to have a poster who thinks this thread was originally abot fallling education standard in the UK.,

And as we know, that is not the case, it is about making female staff cover their heads and other things related to religion.

Anyway so as not to confuse the issue I am going to start another thread called Double Standards in PLT.

I hope you will read it and add to the thread, it should be interesting.

See you there Jacky.

EMR Oct 16th 2013 1:00 am

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I never realsied that Keith Vaz ( MP ) , Mo Farah, Somali born double olympic gold medalist, and numerous professional footballers from west african Islamic countries all follow the rules of Islam to the letter.
Plus of course the tens and tens of other muslims who live in the UK.
Clearly MM and JT know far more about what is happening than the other 60million plus of us in the UK.

Domino Oct 16th 2013 1:17 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10945934)
http://news.sky.com/story/1153164/im...drastic-action

67% of British want drastic action on immigration.

25% were to polite to say;)


Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 10945937)
"too"....

as I said a short while ago, things have gone down hill since the Secretary was made redundant
:rofl:


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