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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10945905)
Well the health care in the UK might be going down the pan, but it is very good in Iran.
So good in fact that this guy is being looked after so that he can "get well enough to be hanged again". He was executed once, for drug offences, but it did not work, so he is being looked after and once he is strong enough, he will find himself dangling on the end of a rope for a second time. Second helpings sharia style. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...cond-time.html |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10946452)
You can't blame Islam for that. It would be much the same in any country that practices the death penalty.
A woman was flogged in the street for getting into a car with a man. Talk about the punishment not fitting the crime.:thumbdown: Sickening. and all in the name of religion, it is nothing more than allowing sadists loose on the streets, the spectators don´t seem shocked either, so it must be quite commonplace. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10946453)
I suppose you are right, but I think Islam is to blame for this:
A woman was flogged in the street for getting into a car with a man. Talk about the punishment not fitting the crime.:thumbdown: Sickening. and all in the name of religion, it is nothing more than allowing sadists loose on the streets, the spectators don´t seem shocked either, so it must be quite commonplace. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 10946447)
I didn't think it was sinister, not at all, I thought it was hilarious.
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Re: British standards ???
Some people seem to have the idea that if we can find other groups that have harsh regimes, then it somehow excuses the wrongs of others.
To me that does not wash, it is like saying that Jimmy Saville`s crimes were not so bad because Ian Huntley killed his victims and Saville only abused them.:confused: Put into that context is does seem strange that people justify one regime, by pointing out that other regimes (apart from the one they are defending) are also harsh. |
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MM & JT I heard from a friend, who heard if from their 3rd cousin ,who heard if from some one who knows some one who read it somewhere, that reading the beano on a friday afternoon in any muslim country or in any street in the UK where muslims live is punishable by public stoning.
When you start publishing reliable scouce information ( not Daily mail ) for your rascist fairy stories maybe you might start to be taken seriously . |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10946484)
Some people seem to have the idea that if we can find other groups that have harsh regimes, then it somehow excuses the wrongs of others.
To me that does not wash, it is like saying that Jimmy Saville`s crimes were not so bad because Ian Huntley killed his victims and Saville only abused them.:confused: Put into that context is does seem strange that people justify one regime, by pointing out that other regimes (apart from the one they are defending) are also harsh. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 10946484)
Some people seem to have the idea that if we can find other groups that have harsh regimes, then it somehow excuses the wrongs of others.
To me that does not wash, it is like saying that Jimmy Saville`s crimes were not so bad because Ian Huntley killed his victims and Saville only abused them.:confused: Put into that context is does seem strange that people justify one regime, by pointing out that other regimes (apart from the one they are defending) are also harsh. It is relevant to your comments, of course it is, you are attacking one particular group of people for their "barbarism" yet they aren't even the most barbarous! You are saying that Islam is evil for executing rapists and murderers and yet, ironically, you lot would be the first to shout "String em up!" and you are ignoring who is just a couple of places down from the list of top state murderers and who is at the top of the list, instead its Iran you targeted, mainly because they are muslims and we all know how bigoted you are! |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 10946495)
I think that is the mistake some here are making - assuming that pointing out that bad things happen outside Islam is somehow justifying them happening in Islam. It's not. It is pointing out that the problem is not necessarily Islam.
Despite growing evidence of the decline in British standards in this respect. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 10946502)
Oh do be quiet, it didn't work when you tried to twist us "apologists" (Disclaimer for the dim witted; that was sarcasm) into rape endorsers and it won't work with this.
It is relevant to your comments, of course it is, you are attacking one particular group of people for their "barbarism" yet they aren't even the most barbarous! You are saying that Islam is evil for executing rapists and murderers and yet, ironically, you lot would be the first to shout "String em up!" and you are ignoring who is just a couple of places down from the list of top state murderers and who is at the top of the list, instead its Iran you targeted, mainly because they are muslims and we all know how bigoted you are! There is no equivalent term for ‘rape’ in the Qur'an. Likewise, there is not a single verse in the Qur'an which even remotely discourages forced sex. In contrast, there are several verses in this book which give the green light to rape and other sexual crimes against women. |
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Too true, the UK government ignores human rights abuses in China and Tibet because we need China as a market for our exports and to keep our economy going.
We ignore abuses in countries who ally themselves with us in the fight against terror whatever their religious beliefs. No one is defending abuses in those countries who happen to follow Islam. To focus on those who happen to follow Islam is to ignore a problem that is growing across the world. A torturer is a torturer whether they follow Islam or are in Russia, China, Guantanomo bay in fact where ever they are. |
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Andy do you REALLY believe everything you read on wikipedia.
No one is that stupid. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by andyrich666
(Post 10946528)
I read it regarding Rape is that Islam allows rape (by using the 4 witness), from WIKI ref Qur'an
There is no equivalent term for ‘rape’ in the Qur'an. Likewise, there is not a single verse in the Qur'an which even remotely discourages forced sex. In contrast, there are several verses in this book which give the green light to rape and other sexual crimes against women. |
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Fredbargate
(Post 10935866)
Now to get back to the original theme about British standards, and what is happening in British tows, in the present day. I am not interested how the rulings of sharia law affect those in far countries, but those people who have left those countries should leave those laws behind them, as it has no place being forced on British muslim girls. Underage girls are being married under Islamic law, and often against their will, as the parents arrange the marriage with the iman and then inform the girl later. It is a problem, if not the programme would not have been made. I don´t think this type of marriage is compliant with British standards. What the Chinese are ding in China is not relevant. If they want to bring back feet binding in China that is their business, but of course it should not be allowed in the UK. The same with Islam, what goes on in those countires, we may not agree with honour killings, but they do, and if it is not against the law, that´s how it is.The culprit may get off with it, because it is how they solve the problem of wayward girls. Howeve that does not wash in the UK, it is against the law to kill, even if the daughter in question does want to go out and wear a short skirt. So let the Chinese sort out China, the Iranians sort out Iran, but when these acts spill over into other countries like the UK, surely those countries can have a say in what is and isn´t allowed without having a squad of apologist and PC brigade shouting "racism". Remember the thread is British standards, ie standards within Great Britian. |
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