On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:00:39 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

> I grew up on a council estate- I'm not sure
>how much more standard you want.

I thought you were a posh kid!
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:52:18 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Yes, but I think people were saying UK standard fare hasn't altered
>much over the years.

in addition to what I already said you have the impact of immigration,
we have adopted all that curry and stuff! Polish restros next?
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:00:39 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> > I grew up on a council estate- I'm not sure
> >how much more standard you want.
>
> I thought you were a posh kid!

What made you think that?

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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:52:18 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Yes, but I think people were saying UK standard fare hasn't altered
> >much over the years.
>
> in addition to what I already said you have the impact of immigration,
> we have adopted all that curry and stuff! Polish restros next?

I was in the Arndale centre today, and had a tasty "panini" with an
espresso, near to the Polish food shop. There's also a 'conveyor-belt'
sushi place there now- not one of the chains AFAIK. Also a very good
fruit and veg market, with lots of stuff you'd never have seen a couple
of decades ago. It's not a bad example of how things have changed here,
at least, certainly for anyone who was in the arndale centre in the
early 90s.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:43:12 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>> I thought you were a posh kid!
>
>What made you think that?

dunno, didnt you go to some unusual school in Finland or something or
other and composing isnt exactly "street"
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"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:52:18 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Yes, but I think people were saying UK standard fare hasn't altered
>>much over the years.
>
> in addition to what I already said you have the impact of immigration,
> we have adopted all that curry and stuff! Polish restros next?

Well there was a Polish restaurant where I grew up and there was a huge
Polish community in the UK after WWII.

But it's not a cuisine that's amenable to being messed about with by chefs
who want to use exotic mushrooms and best Scotch beef and vegetables
nobody's ever heard of as it tends towards pork in chunks and dumplings and
fried potatoes and pickled fish and too much fat.

It's not terribly healthy unless you live in an unheated house in central
Europe and do a lot of shivering...

And it's not so much that we've adopted curry but that the Indian population
has adapted curry...

The stuff they serve in Indian Restaurants in the UK wouldn't be used to
pebble-dash a house with in Bombay...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:43:12 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> I thought you were a posh kid!
> >
> >What made you think that?
>
> dunno, didnt you go to some unusual school in Finland or something or
> other and composing isnt exactly "street"

I went to the local primary school, took piano lessons with the local
peripatetic teacher there, then auditioned for a specialist school where
I got in, and spent high school there. It was in Edinburgh- I've never
been to Finland. Composing's composing- I don't it's anything to do with
your background.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:48:12 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>There's also a 'conveyor-belt'
>sushi place there now- not one of the chains AFAIK

not Yo Sushi?
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:48:12 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >There's also a 'conveyor-belt'
> >sushi place there now- not one of the chains AFAIK
>
> not Yo Sushi?

Like I said, not one of the chains. There's a Yo Sushi at the nearby
Selfridges though- I'm not that fond of them, or the conveyor-belt
places in general now- at first, they seemed a bit of a novelty.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:51:03 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>> dunno, didnt you go to some unusual school in Finland or something or
>> other and composing isnt exactly "street"
>
>I went to the local primary school, took piano lessons with the local
>peripatetic teacher there, then auditioned for a specialist school where
>I got in, and spent high school there. It was in Edinburgh- I've never
>been to Finland.

Edinburgh, that's it, near Finland. Youre half Norwegian though, was
that it?

No, I don't know why being half Norwegian might be posh, er, mate.

If you're not posh why aint you Dave or Davy? :-)

I bet my council estate was rougher than your council estate :-)
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:49:45 GMT, "William Black"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>And it's not so much that we've adopted curry but that the Indian population
>has adapted curry...

both, i think. Ever since the Raj.

>The stuff they serve in Indian Restaurants in the UK wouldn't be used to
>pebble-dash a house with in Bombay...

people always say that sort of thing, how come I can go to places full
of "indians" eating it?
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"The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:49:45 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>And it's not so much that we've adopted curry but that the Indian
>>population
>>has adapted curry...
>
> both, i think. Ever since the Raj.
>
>>The stuff they serve in Indian Restaurants in the UK wouldn't be used to
>>pebble-dash a house with in Bombay...
>
> people always say that sort of thing, how come I can go to places full
> of "indians" eating it?

Goodness knows, they must have been born here.

My wife, who is Indian, won't touch the stuff and neither will anyone else
we know who comes from India.

I've spent a reasonable amount of time in India and I have to say that the
food in India is an order of magnitude better than the stuff we get served
here. The food in the ordinary cafes in Bombay is far superior to anything
I've ever eaten in the UK, and yes, I have eaten in some of the better
Indian places here...

I also get to use a lot of my baggage allowance lugging spices, Kashmiri
chillies and kitchen equipment back to the UK as you can't get the quality
of spices here and getting a decent masala grinder is almost impossible.

But it's worth it...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

William Black <[email protected]> wrote:

> "The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:49:45 GMT, "William Black"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>And it's not so much that we've adopted curry but that the Indian
> >>population
> >>has adapted curry...
> >
> > both, i think. Ever since the Raj.
> >
> >>The stuff they serve in Indian Restaurants in the UK wouldn't be used to
> >>pebble-dash a house with in Bombay...
> >
> > people always say that sort of thing, how come I can go to places full
> > of "indians" eating it?
>
> Goodness knows, they must have been born here.
>
> My wife, who is Indian, won't touch the stuff and neither will anyone else
> we know who comes from India.

I know a lot of Indians, some longtime friends, (though have only spent
a couple of months there) and it's not a complaint I've heard much. What
I have heard, and what I certainly agree with, is that the huge range of
cuisine which you can find in India is orthagonal to what you get in UK
Indian restaurants.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 19:56:53 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
wrote:


>I bet my council estate was rougher than your council estate :-)

You were lucky to live on 't council estate.

We 'ad ter live in a tent in 't middle o' 't Tesco car-park. Breakfast
were past-its sell-by-date bread that 'staff chucked out into 't
rubbish-bin the night before, shat on by local pigeons and gnawed at
by 't neighbourhood grey squirrels.

You young 'uns 'ad it far too easy.



Keith, Bristol, UK

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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:09:35 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Yes, I can think of one cold store that hasn't been redeveloped until
>>> about six months ago, the rest is either developed or not going to be
>>> developed further, hopefully ever.
>>
>>Is it in a trust ?
>
> the undeveloped bits are parks, public buildings etc. I can think of
> one bit of Deptford thats still industrial, that will change one day.
> Theres a big council estate (project) thats already being redeveloped
> as high end flats with marina in the dock. The rest is mostly historic
> warehouses already converted. no doubt theres the odd bits that will
> develop, but theres not much scope left.
> --
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