The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:25:29 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >I would confess I've never been to a high end restaurant there. I'm
> >tempted by Ramsay's though, and will probably go there on a special
> >occasion.
>
> Ramsay is probably the best for "real" food. I'm not sure about
> Gavaroche, keep considering it. The Ivy is of course excellent for
> comfort food and all round pleasantness, if you can get a table.

And it's smoky, no?


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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:23:30 GMT, "William Black"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I find the 'high end' restaurants in London often don't deliver the sort of
> >wonderful food you expect because they're far too busy being fashionable.
> >
> >They also come with rude staff, long waits and uncomfortable chairs that
> >look very nice.
>
> Rude staff? Nowhere high end ive been. None of that relects my
> expereince of high end restros.

Certainly in Manchester's more expensive places (which is still a bit
below London't higher end spots), I wouldn't expect it, and if someone
was rude, I'd complain immediately. Jeez, people working in restaurants
here tend to be very receptive to complaints IME.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:41:44 +0200, Deeply Filled Mortician
<deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote:

>Make credence recognised that on Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:49:43 +0100,
>[email protected] (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) has scripted:
>
>>Viking <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:30:57 +0100, "Ian F."
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> From the article:
>>>
>>> >"A decade ago, if you had presented a list of the UK having seven
>>> >restaurants in the top 50, people would have laughed. But we have become
>>> >very good at being multi-cultural."
>>>
>>> Note the slur on British food.
>>
>>That's not a surprise. While you can get terrific local cuisine, the UK
>>has never had the food culture that some other countries have. What has
>>made UK food a lot better in recent years has been the absorption and
>>modification of other cuisines, and much more thought given to the
>>quality of ingredients.
>
>Pity it hasn't trickled down to the average Brit. Most are satisfied
>with something that fills them up, whilst being somewhat edible.

Mushy peas, anyone?

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:34:06 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) wrote:

>The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:23:30 GMT, "William Black"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >I find the 'high end' restaurants in London often don't deliver the sort of
>> >wonderful food you expect because they're far too busy being fashionable.
>> >
>> >They also come with rude staff, long waits and uncomfortable chairs that
>> >look very nice.
>>
>> Rude staff? Nowhere high end ive been. None of that relects my
>> expereince of high end restros.
>
>Certainly in Manchester's more expensive places (which is still a bit
>below London't higher end spots), I wouldn't expect it, and if someone
>was rude, I'd complain immediately. Jeez, people working in restaurants
>here tend to be very receptive to complaints IME.

Note the use of restros! Score 10 points.
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Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:34:06 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne, _the_
> chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:23:30 GMT, "William Black"
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I find the 'high end' restaurants in London often don't deliver the
> >> >sort of wonderful food you expect because they're far too busy being
> >> >fashionable.
> >> >
> >> >They also come with rude staff, long waits and uncomfortable chairs that
> >> >look very nice.
> >>
> >> Rude staff? Nowhere high end ive been. None of that relects my
> >> expereince of high end restros.
> >
> >Certainly in Manchester's more expensive places (which is still a bit
> >below London't higher end spots), I wouldn't expect it, and if someone
> >was rude, I'd complain immediately. Jeez, people working in restaurants
> >here tend to be very receptive to complaints IME.
>
> Note the use of restros! Score 10 points.

Manchester doesn't have any restros!

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:33:50 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>> Ramsay is probably the best for "real" food. I'm not sure about
>> Gavaroche, keep considering it. The Ivy is of course excellent for
>> comfort food and all round pleasantness, if you can get a table.
>
>And it's smoky, no?

not that I noticed.
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:44:27 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>> >Certainly in Manchester's more expensive places (which is still a bit
>> >below London't higher end spots), I wouldn't expect it, and if someone
>> >was rude, I'd complain immediately. Jeez, people working in restaurants
>> >here tend to be very receptive to complaints IME.
>>
>> Note the use of restros! Score 10 points.
>
>Manchester doesn't have any restros!

whats the problem with the abbreviation?
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:39:07 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>Pity it hasn't trickled down to the average Brit. Most are satisfied
>>with something that fills them up, whilst being somewhat edible.
>
>Mushy peas, anyone?

mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
them in restros.
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:00:02 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:39:07 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>>Pity it hasn't trickled down to the average Brit. Most are satisfied
>>>with something that fills them up, whilst being somewhat edible.
>>
>>Mushy peas, anyone?
>
>mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
>theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
>them in restros.

Not the kind of cuisine that will earn you Michelin stars.

"Viking" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:00:02 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:39:07 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Pity it hasn't trickled down to the average Brit. Most are satisfied
>>>>with something that fills them up, whilst being somewhat edible.
>>>
>>>Mushy peas, anyone?
>>
>>mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
>>theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
>>them in restros.
>
> Not the kind of cuisine that will earn you Michelin stars.

There used to be a chip shop in Scarborough that was in the Good Food
Guide...

Mainly because the chap who owned it also owned his own fishing cobble.

Gone now though...

The little cafe at the side only seated about six or eight people so you'd
get puzzled looking couples in matching Arran sweaters with the guide
sticking out of 'his' back pocket standing and about outside eating their
dinner in the street for probably the first time in their adult lives.

The place survived for two years after Michael Winner recommended it
though...

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Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:08:37 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
>>theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
>>them in restros.
>
>Not the kind of cuisine that will earn you Michelin stars.

neither is a sandwich, not sure what your point is.
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The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:44:27 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> >Certainly in Manchester's more expensive places (which is still a bit
> >> >below London't higher end spots), I wouldn't expect it, and if someone
> >> >was rude, I'd complain immediately. Jeez, people working in restaurants
> >> >here tend to be very receptive to complaints IME.
> >>
> >> Note the use of restros! Score 10 points.
> >
> >Manchester doesn't have any restros!
>
> whats the problem with the abbreviation?

It's not much of an abbreviation really.

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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:20:54 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:08:37 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>>mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
>>>theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
>>>them in restros.
>>
>>Not the kind of cuisine that will earn you Michelin stars.
>
>neither is a sandwich, not sure what your point is.

Read the thread. We were saying that the new cuisine hasn't trickled
down to the avarage UK citizen yet. By way of agreeing, I said "Mushy
peas, anyone?" The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
with more standard fare.

And no, I wasn't denigrating mushy peas.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:20:27 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 07:50:16 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> It's been around for two decades.
>>
>>Yet there is still quite a lot of riverfront space that has no
>>development on it.
>
>What? Richmond Park?

Borders of Richmond park are all developed :-p The stretch of River
from Cannizaro park in Kingston up to Richmond Upon Thames is almost
completely undeveloped though you're right - but I'm pretty sure
that's got a lot more to do with planning regulations than any lack of
interest in developers (very nice it is too)

Jim.

Viking <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:20:54 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:08:37 -0400, Viking <[email protected]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>>mushy peas are old fashioned, regional and very not popular, but
> >>>theres nothing particularly wrong with them. You will be lucky to fond
> >>>them in restros.
> >>
> >>Not the kind of cuisine that will earn you Michelin stars.
> >
> >neither is a sandwich, not sure what your point is.
>
> Read the thread. We were saying that the new cuisine hasn't trickled
> down to the avarage UK citizen yet. By way of agreeing, I said "Mushy
> peas, anyone?" The idea being that the average Briton is satisifed
> with more standard fare.

What is the average briton, and what do they eat? It ain't mushy peas
around here, for sure. I haven't noticed it anywhere for ages. That
said, the average anyone is satisfied with 'more standard fare' IME.

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