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Ian F. Apr 23rd 2007 6:30 pm

"London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
http://tinyurl.com/2v3ffa

London is home to six of world's best restaurants

By Patrick Sawer, Evening Standard 23.04.07


London scored a major triumph in the field of haute cuisine today after it
emerged it has six of the world's best restaurants.

The capital's international reputation for fine dining was confirmed by
the inclusion of the six on a list of 50 restaurants drawn up by a panel
of 651 judges who surveyed more than 70 countries.

France had the largest number on the list, with the US second and Britain
third with seven. Heston Blumenthal's Fat Duck was the only British
restaurant on the list outside London.

The six were Le Gavroche, St John's, Nobu, Hakkasan, Restaurant Gordon
Ramsay and the River Café.

The Fat Duck, in Bray, Berkshire, is set to go head to head against
Spain's internationally-renown El Bulli for the top prize at the S
Pellegrino awards in London tonight.

Blumenthal, who has previously won the S Pellegrino award for top
restaurant, said British restaurants are benefiting from a greater
interest in food from the UK public. "What's happened is that we used to
consider going to a restaurant on a special occasion, and when we went it
was all candelabras and fancy waiters in dickie-bow ties.

"More recently we have seen more of a going out culture. People in Britain
are much more aware and interested in food," he said.

Britain has retained its third place spot for the third year running, but
London's dominance is a reflection of the strength of the economy and the
wealth of its restaurant-going public.

Joe Warwick, editor of Restaurant magazine, which organises the awards,
said: "There are some lovely restaurants outside London, but to make it
work on this level you need to be able to fill it Monday through to Friday
and that doesn't happen outside London.

"A decade ago, if you had presented a list of the UK having seven
restaurants in the top 50, people would have laughed. But we have become
very good at being multi-cultural. It is interesting to consider that on
this list, St John's is the only restaurant serving British food. The rest
are all in the modern style of cookery."

France still has the highest number of top restaurants with 12 entries in
the top 50 - up from 10 last year. The USA has eight - the second highest
number for any single country.

Spain and Italy tie in fourth place with six entries each. The full list
of restaurants and their positions in the top 50 will be revealed at the
Science Museum ceremony tonight.

Gordon Ramsay's self-named restaurant has made the top 50 again this year
while The River Café has re-entered the list. Maze, which is part of the
Gordon Ramsay stable of restaurants, came in at number 55 and scooped the
" breakthrough award" for best restaurant under five years old.

Pied a Terre in London was voted Restaurant Magazine readers' choice. Mr
Warwick said: "There's a consensus among people who know about restaurants
that France is definitely the strongest country and probably deserves to
be top of the list.

"I think the UK's position as third nation is very good. This is about
highend restaurants and we have got that."

The panellists were divided into 22 regional groups, each of which was
headed by a chairman picked for their knowledge of that region.

Each panel member was allowed five votes, of which a maximum of two were
for restaurants within their own region.

Best of British

Le Gavroche
St John's
Nobu
Hakkasan Restaurant
Gordon Ramsay
River CafÚ
Fat Duck, Bray

Ian

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David Horne Apr 23rd 2007 6:52 pm

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
Ian F. <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/2v3ffa
>
> London is home to six of world's best restaurants
>
> By Patrick Sawer, Evening Standard 23.04.07
>
>
> London scored a major triumph in the field of haute cuisine today after it
> emerged it has six of the world's best restaurants.
>
> The capital's international reputation for fine dining was confirmed by
> the inclusion of the six on a list of 50 restaurants drawn up by a panel
> of 651 judges who surveyed more than 70 countries.
>
> France had the largest number on the list, with the US second and Britain
> third with seven. Heston Blumenthal's Fat Duck was the only British
> restaurant on the list outside London.
>
> The six were Le Gavroche, St John's, Nobu, Hakkasan, Restaurant Gordon
> Ramsay and the River Café.
>
> The Fat Duck, in Bray, Berkshire, is set to go head to head against
> Spain's internationally-renown El Bulli for the top prize at the S
> Pellegrino awards in London tonight.
>
> Blumenthal, who has previously won the S Pellegrino award for top
> restaurant, said British restaurants are benefiting from a greater
> interest in food from the UK public. "What's happened is that we used to
> consider going to a restaurant on a special occasion, and when we went it
> was all candelabras and fancy waiters in dickie-bow ties.
>
> "More recently we have seen more of a going out culture. People in Britain
> are much more aware and interested in food," he said.
[]

He came 2nd to El Bulli, and was just interviewed on R4's today
programme FWIW.

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The Reid Apr 23rd 2007 7:45 pm

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:52:52 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>> "More recently we have seen more of a going out culture. People in Britain
>> are much more aware and interested in food," he said.
>[]
>
>He came 2nd to El Bulli, and was just interviewed on R4's today
>programme FWIW.

which is the correct order, Adria pioneered that style of cooking and
his restro is much better as a total experience. The Restaurant's
awards seem very focused on innovative cooking, which is only part of
a restro. If they included the space, Fat Duck would be just behind
our local Italian.
--
Mike Reid
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The Reid Apr 23rd 2007 7:53 pm

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:30:57 +0100, "Ian F."
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Heston Blumenthal's Fat Duck was the only British
>restaurant on the list outside London.

*just* outside and where lots of wealthy Londoners live.

>The six were Le Gavroche, St John's*, Nobu, Hakkasan, Restaurant Gordon
>Ramsay* and the River Café*.

I haven't been to them all (* I have) but I would put Ramsay ahead of
the other two and I would return to Hospital Road but not to the Fat
Duck.

>Joe Warwick, editor of Restaurant magazine, which organises the awards,
>said: "There are some lovely restaurants outside London, but to make it
>work on this level you need to be able to fill it Monday through to Friday
>and that doesn't happen outside London.

I find L'enclume (as a single example) in the Lake District just as
good an experience as the Fat Duck.
"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/lenclume.htm"
same sort of innovation too, although a fair bit more like "real
food".
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

Pltrgyst Apr 24th 2007 2:02 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:45:04 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

>....Restaurant's
>awards seem very focused on innovative cooking, which is only part of
>a restro....

Agrred. It's hard to understand, though, what Peter Lugar is doing on this list,
since it's a straightforward -- although very good -- steak house.

All in all, the criticism reflected in the Wikipedia article seems deserved even
though tamed somewhat.

-- Larry

David Horne Apr 24th 2007 2:03 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
pltrgyst <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:45:04 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >....Restaurant's
> >awards seem very focused on innovative cooking, which is only part of
> >a restro....
>
> Agrred. It's hard to understand, though, what Peter Lugar is doing on this
> list, since it's a straightforward -- although very good -- steak house.

Some fascinating menu items at some London "restros" though..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6586879.stm

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David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
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-PeterL Apr 24th 2007 3:28 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
On Apr 23, 11:30 pm, "Ian F." <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/2v3ffa
>
> London is home to six of world's best restaurants
>
> By Patrick Sawer, Evening Standard 23.04.07
>
> London scored a major triumph in the field of haute cuisine today after it
> emerged it has six of the world's best restaurants.
>
> The capital's international reputation for fine dining was confirmed by
> the inclusion of the six on a list of 50 restaurants drawn up by a panel
> of 651 judges who surveyed more than 70 countries.

Biased survey sponsored by the British based Restaurant Magazine.

kurkku Apr 24th 2007 3:32 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
"PeterL" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
viestissä:[email protected] glegroups.com...
> On Apr 23, 11:30 pm, "Ian F." <[email protected]> wrote:
>> http://tinyurl.com/2v3ffa
>>
>> London is home to six of world's best restaurants
>>
>> By Patrick Sawer, Evening Standard 23.04.07
>>
>> London scored a major triumph in the field of haute cuisine today after
>> it
>> emerged it has six of the world's best restaurants.
>>
>> The capital's international reputation for fine dining was confirmed by
>> the inclusion of the six on a list of 50 restaurants drawn up by a panel
>> of 651 judges who surveyed more than 70 countries.
>
> Biased survey sponsored by the British based Restaurant Magazine.
>
Reminds me about a Swedish newspaper article which listed 100 best authors
of literature in all times. Not surprisingly about half of them were
Swedes.......

The Reid Apr 24th 2007 4:24 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:03:44 +0100, [email protected] (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

>Some fascinating menu items at some London "restros" though..
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6586879.stm

cringe.
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

Seymour Harvey Apr 24th 2007 4:27 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:24:17 +0100, The Reid <[email protected]>
wrote:

>cringe.

Tasting your own cooking again, pisshead?

The Reid Apr 24th 2007 4:29 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
On 24 Apr 2007 08:28:53 -0700, PeterL <[email protected]> wrote:

>> The capital's international reputation for fine dining was confirmed by
>> the inclusion of the six on a list of 50 restaurants drawn up by a panel
>> of 651 judges who surveyed more than 70 countries.
>
>Biased survey sponsored by the British based Restaurant Magazine.

Is it? The world was broken up into regions with 22 regional teams,
they arent Brits. Where their were ties, home region votes were
ignored.

the judges are here
"www.theworlds50best.com"
--
Mike Reid
UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"

David Horne Apr 24th 2007 4:38 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 24 Apr 2007 08:28:53 -0700, PeterL <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> The capital's international reputation for fine dining was confirmed by
> >> the inclusion of the six on a list of 50 restaurants drawn up by a panel
> >> of 651 judges who surveyed more than 70 countries.
> >
> >Biased survey sponsored by the British based Restaurant Magazine.
>
> Is it? The world was broken up into regions with 22 regional teams,
> they arent Brits. Where their were ties, home region votes were
> ignored.

It doesn't surprise me. I find it very easy to get good food in London
nowadays, and while price doesn't indicate quality, it is true that as
European cities go, it's on the higher end of prices for dining out.
Went to a terrific "mediterranean" restaurant near Maida Vale last week.
(le cochonnet) I'd passed it earlier in the day, and didn't think it was
up to much, so I was initially a bit aprehensive when taken there later
in the evening. It was superb IMO. We had a private room- looks like
there is still smoking in the main area unfortunately, but that will
change soon.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

-Viking Apr 24th 2007 4:41 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:30:57 +0100, "Ian F."
<[email protected]> wrote:

From the article:

>"A decade ago, if you had presented a list of the UK having seven
>restaurants in the top 50, people would have laughed. But we have become
>very good at being multi-cultural."

Note the slur on British food. It even continues:

>" It is interesting to consider that on
>this list, St John's is the only restaurant serving British food. The rest
>are all in the modern style of cookery."

David Horne Apr 24th 2007 4:49 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
Viking <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:30:57 +0100, "Ian F."
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From the article:
>
> >"A decade ago, if you had presented a list of the UK having seven
> >restaurants in the top 50, people would have laughed. But we have become
> >very good at being multi-cultural."
>
> Note the slur on British food.

That's not a surprise. While you can get terrific local cuisine, the UK
has never had the food culture that some other countries have. What has
made UK food a lot better in recent years has been the absorption and
modification of other cuisines, and much more thought given to the
quality of ingredients.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

David Horne Apr 24th 2007 4:55 am

Re: "London is home to six of world's top restaurants"
 
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) <[email protected]> wrote:

> looks like
> there is still smoking in the main area unfortunately, but that will
> change soon.

On the subject of smoking, am I the only one taken aback at the complete
lack of preparation for the upcoming ban? I suppose some restaurants and
bars will just go as normal all the way until June 30, and then blame
the government that they weren't given enough preparation time?

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk


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